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"The company is closing in 18 months"
« on: September 22, 2010, 09:13:55 AM »
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SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 07:06 AM
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"The company is closing in 18 months"

 This is what my 55 yr old friend was told last week. The company is sending his division to "Asia".

He experienced his very first panic attack shortly after the news-bomb was dropped.

He has been at this job for 18 years, and his wife does not work outside the home..(she may have to...soon)

For people who stay until "the end" , there will be a send-off bonus, but no real details as of yet. There is no company pension.

He was worried sick, until his friend told him to stop worrying about something he had no control over, and there were no other jobs to run to anyway, so he's resigned himself to the fact that in less than 2 years, he will be starting over at 57 yrs of age.

They are saving every penny they can, and getting dental work done, but other than that, they just hope that when the axe falls, the economy will be in better shape.

At first they thought that if they could sell their house, they might be able to buy a cheaper one (it's just the two of them now), but after expenses related to selling and the shitty market, they decided to just stay put, and perhaps rent a room out if it came to that.

18 months?  That's plenty of time to get your life in order.

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xchrom  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 07:29 AM
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3. it's that 'there are no other jobs to run to' that's so frightening. nt


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old mark  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 07:34 AM
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5. He is fortunate to have such long notice. The Hershey chocolate plant here in Reading, PA
 Edited on Wed Sep-22-10 07:38 AM by old mark
closed completely several years ago with short notice. Several families had 3 generations working there, and many had several family members working there. They were all laid off permanently.

Hershey chocolate products are now made in Monterray, Mexico, are smaller, contain less cocoa and cost more.

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ejpoeta  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 07:42 AM
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6. he should consider himself lucky that he got that much notice.  
 this gives him time to tighten up finances and put his resume out there. he's got a good head start. it sucks, but it's better than finding out your job is gone in two weeks. I find it interesting there is a bonus for those sticking it out til the end. wonder how much that would be. is it worth not having a job? screw that. at least start looking. if you are still there at the end then get the bonus. if you find something else, go. thank god for a good head start.

my husband was working temp to hire for a couple of years at a place in buffalo. he found out they were laying people off eight months beforehand and was able to get another job without the gap. so even though being able to stay somewhere until retirement is the best scenario giving everyone the heads up so they can start looking elsewhere is at least something.


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TBF  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 09:27 AM
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20. It is truly pathetic that someone is considered "lucky"
 when they get notice of their job ending. Is this what we have come to? Why are we not fighting back?


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SocialistLez  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-22-10 07:42 AM
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7. Who could work knowing in 18 months they won't have a job?


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zipplewrath  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-22-10 08:22 AM
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12. He's off to a good start
 No one would envy him. But he does have the advantage of time. Without knowing what his skill set is, it is hard to suggest much. There are "career counselors", a poorly named service for a guy that is 55. He's not looking for a "career", he's looking for work for about another 10 years.

He needs to do a full skills assesment, even for skills he's never been paid. He needs to look to competitors, suppliers, customers, etc. to see if there is something he can bring to them. Consulting is a possibility as well. And the really hard decision, it may require a significant relocation. Especially if it means they can move to a location where it will be cheaper to own/live. Retraining is also a consideration, although I'd be concerned about running up too much of a bill on that. "retraining" in a field that is closely related to his existing skills. Something that won't take alot of classes or time
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 09:16:22 AM »
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TBF  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 09:27 AM
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20. It is truly pathetic that someone is considered "lucky"
 when they get notice of their job ending. Is this what we have come to? Why are we not fighting back?

Yeah, tax them until they can't even relocate!
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 10:08:02 AM »
Welcome to dumbo's America. He is so anti-business that he loves the thought of another company closing and or moving overseas. Makes his job that much easier for his socialist utopia.

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2010, 10:58:56 AM »
I'm retiring within 18 months, sucka, you could have my job...if you were even remotely qualified to do it.
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2010, 11:06:14 AM »
We just need some more 2500 page bills that regulate how business is done in the USA. 

For lurking DUchebags, it's not the labor price that is driving business out of the USA.  It is insane government regulations.  IF you had a friend that hit you in the face every time you went to their house and another gave you pot and cheetos, which house would you go to all the time?
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2010, 11:15:47 AM »
Tax breaks to the company would help them stay here.
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2010, 11:16:33 AM »
We just need some more 2500 page bills that regulate how business is done in the USA. 

For lurking DUchebags, it's not the labor price that is driving business out of the USA.  It is insane government regulations.  IF you had a friend that hit you in the face every time you went to their house and another gave you pot and cheetos, which house would you go to all the time?

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2010, 11:29:31 AM »
18 months is quite a bit of time to apply for a new job.  He is very fortunate that he was given that much notice. 

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2010, 12:27:00 PM »
18 months is quite a bit of time to apply for a new job.  He is very fortunate that he was given that much notice. 

See, that's the problem.  The DUmmie friend wants to go on unemployment and not work, but here he has to work for another 18 months.

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2010, 01:56:53 PM »
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Why are we not fighting back?
 

What does DUmmy TBF suggest they do?  I mean specifically, because I'm puzzled.  

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2010, 02:26:14 PM »
[quoteWhy are we not fighting back? ]  What does DUmmy TBF suggest they do?  I mean specifically, because I'm puzzled. 

"To the barricades!  No pasaran!  Liberte, Egalite, Freebies!  Smash the state!...
Oh wait, it's time for Oprah..."

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2010, 02:38:15 PM »
"To the barricades!  No pasaran!  Liberte, Egalite, Freebies!  Smash the state!...
Oh wait, it's time for Oprah..."

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Don't laugh! I just saw a commercial where she's gettin' her own damn network!

Just what we need! Oprah, 24/7 where she can give away O'Bumbler motor cars 24/7! How else are they gonna get rid of all those "Volts"? Opey is the only one that can afford the POS's!

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2010, 03:39:45 PM »
Where is the guy working?

I would LOVE to find out that his friend works at an incandescent light factory!

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2010, 06:11:17 PM »
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SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 08:03 AM
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9. They make vitamins. I am not sure exactly what HIS job is there
 He said he's miserable, just knowing, but at least he does have some time to plan ahead. At his age, it's very hard to find a decent job though, and that worries him. The company said they would "flesh out" the bonus plan, and that may help him decide how long to stay.

When my son's company did that, he got a $46K "bonus" for staying..and then was "rehired" immediately by the company that bought them out & got a raise to boot..but that was 5 years ago.



Seems in the vitamin business, Texacon.




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Javaman  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-22-10 10:16 AM
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23. But hey! the recession is over and has been for almost a year!!!
 This, sadly, is the new normal.

Cheerleaders at the end of the empire.

I feel for your friend. I'm 47 and hanging onto my job like grim death. Doing everything I can to make myself more "marketable". We have slowly been downsizing and all have been charged with taking on many rolls.[/i] Tasks that we were never trained for, have no experience doing or in our job descriptions, yet we do them to hold off certain lay off fears.

The republicans don't need to destroy SS, they are doing it by age discrimination. They lay off enough of the older workers, the stress alone will kill these folks, thus decreasing the SS rolls.

If I didn't have dark sarcasm/reality type humor, I would have none at all. It's the only thing that keeps me sane.

Peace to your friend. 

Well I know this one isn’t a writer or editor, although I suppose he could be working in a bakery. He could always find a job as a schoolteacher, though.

Right. “Republicans” are laying people off. Because he knows the party affiliation of the vitamin company owners. Jeeze, what a scheisskopf.

Listen, brainless—that’s you, Javaman, with all those many roles you’ve had to assume—outsourcing to cheap foreign labor will always be somewhat attractive to any business that can afford a move of that kind. But add to that 9 million pages of onerous regulations and crippling taxes—you know, those corporate taxes you love so much—and place it all in the context of a damaged economy, and the chances of a company making a move like this increase tremendously. What are they supposed to do, wait to go out of business?

So there’ll always be the carrot of cheap foreign labor. What there DOESN’T have to be is the stick of punishing tax rates and structures, and absurd overregulation, nearly all of which are Democrat creations.

Good luck with that sarcastic, reality-based humor, because it’s the only part of your mind that’s rooted in reality.

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2010, 07:39:36 PM »
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Liberte, Egalite, Freebies!

LMFAO!!
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2010, 07:57:27 PM »
Where is the guy working?

I would LOVE to find out that his friend works at an incandescent light factory!

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Merck is planning to shut down a plant in Florida (As well as other locations in Canada, Europe, South America, and Mexico)  It is a possibility.

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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 10:15:36 PM »
"To the barricades!  No pasaran!  Liberte, Egalite, Freebies!  Smash the state!...
Oh wait, Cheetoes!!!!(fixed
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2010, 01:42:57 PM »
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When my son's company did that, he got a $46K "bonus" for staying..and then was "rehired" immediately by the company that bought them out &  got a raise to boot..but that was 5 years ago.

Oh my.

I wonder if the silly primitive, the "SoCalDem" primitive, remembers who was in the White House, who was in Congress, in charge of things five years ago.

How fleet the memory.
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Re: "The company is closing in 18 months"
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2010, 02:54:53 PM »
Oh my.

I wonder if the silly primitive, the "SoCalDem" primitive, remembers who was in the White House, who was in Congress, in charge of things five years ago.

How fleet the memory.

Heard a poll on Rush this mornin' where the sample polled  was O'Bumbler 52% to Bush 36% on who they would rather have in charge of the economy!

Ya think maybe ABC, who conducted the poll, skewed the samplin' just a hair?

Ya know we're in really deep shit when our "Free Press" is nothin' more than an ally of a political party!

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