http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9151311Oh my.
liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:30 AM
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This will scare the SH!T out of you
Found this on MSNBC web site:
Is Sarah Palin the next Barack Obama?
'History does not repeat itself,' said Mark Twain, 'but it does rhyme'
When Sarah Palin takes the stage in Des Moines on Friday night to keynote the Iowa Republican Party's Reagan Dinner, she'll send the clearest signal so far that she can see the White House from her home in Wasilla, Alaska.
Video: Values Voter Summit
With C-SPAN planning live coverage of her speech (at 7 p.m. Central time), the former governor has a chance to woo not only Hawkeye voters who will be involved in the first nominating caucuses for 2012, but also a national audience curious about an intriguing figure's future.
For someone who tries to follow and make sense of American political trends, the now-probable run by Palin provokes some questions: Have we seen this movie before? Will the upcoming presidential campaign look strangely like the last one? Not to be impertinent or impolitic, could Sarah Palin be the next Barack Obama?
"History does not repeat itself," Mark Twain is often quoted as saying, "but it does rhyme." Look closely and the rhyme scheme for Palin and Obama is stunningly similar — despite their continent-spanning differences on issues and ideology.
Both figures emerged quickly on the national scene and used their considerable charisma to become media-magnified political celebrities.
Both were tapped to deliver major speeches at national party conventions — Obama's keynote address to Democrats in 2004 and Palin's acceptance of the GOP's vice-presidential nomination in 2008 — and in each case Americans at large took notice of their rhetorical abilities and other qualities.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39230166/ns/politics-politi... /
It goes on trying to make Palin the next Obama
Sarah ain't no Bo, though. Sarah's a better man than Bo is.
McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:33 AM
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1. Too much sexism, still, in the US. Especially among the demographic she will court.
They like her as RW cheerleader, but they want a chief executive with a dick.
Well, considering we haven't had one of those the past twenty or so months, a president with a pendulum
would be nice.
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:36 AM
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4. VERY true. So many right wingers and Republicans were pissed off when McCain picked her. They voted the ticket anyway, telling themselves they were voting for McCain, but if she tops a ticket, I think that would provoke or continue the split that's growing in that party.
Now, that above rates as "stupidest primitive comment of the week," if not the "month."
The only reason McCain
got "right winger" (quotation marks intentional) and Republican votes was exactly precisely because he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate; the
only reason "right wingers" and Republicans voted for him.
uncommon (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:40 AM
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9. Agreed.
JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:46 AM
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11. Actually
My fundy uncle & aunt voted for Ron Paul (they voted for Bush twice) because they felt Palin should be at home taking care of her children.
Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:33 AM
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2. Doesn't scare the shit out of me
It just tells me that MSNBC occasionally hires idiots.
wtmusic (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:34 AM
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3. Obama IQ: triple digits. Palin: "I can see Russia from Alaska".
The next Obama, except for one minor detail.
dkf (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:36 AM
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5. People don't look for governance nowadays. They just want to vote for American Idol.
Weird thing is you would have thought the Internet and alternative media would have made the intellectual deficiency mode obvious but it actually allows the weird attraction to obfuscate it.
Wasn't Bo the American Idol of 2008?
Rex (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:38 AM
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6. Fluff piece from the drooling dittoheads at msnbc.
Sorry but one small problem presents itself with this line of reasoning - Obama has probably read a lot of Mark Twain, where as Sarah has no idea who he is (runs the train station down on 13th street?) and never will.
And when Sarah gives her speeches they end up being (sometimes) a flop or she exposes her stupidity on her hand. Obama hasn't acted like an idiot, publicly, that I have seen in any speech given. Obama also has a very sophisticated lexicon that just cannot be taught to Sarah no matter how many times she reads the teleprompter. 'Donchaknow' is not presidential material and never will be.
Sorry, but Quitter Sarah has nothing on President Obama. They ain't even in the same league.
It is like comparing George W. Bush to Richard M. Nixon.
classof56 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:39 AM
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8. Now there's a real head-shaker. Palin the next Obama?
How odd that Schmulhl (not a name I'm familiar with I must admit) makes this comparison when the Love Palin types hate Obama so very much. I'd think they'd want Palin to be anything but like Obama. Go figure...
WTF indeed!
Winterblues (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:42 AM
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10. When did Obama quit right in the middle of his public service?
They are not even in the same ball park. Obama can tell you what newspapers and magazines he reads. He also knows History and can demonstrate competence. Like I say, not even in the same ball park..
Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:47 AM
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12. Yeah, and my haircut is similar to Obama's
I'll start packing now!
sofa king (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-17-10 11:56 AM
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15. Do they mean if she had an education, a record of competence, an ability to empathize...
... and command of the English language?
Yes, once she gets all of those things, she might bear comparison to President Obama. But if she did, she wouldn't be a Republican anymore.
Bo empathizes? Bo?
The Great Empathizer Bo?
Surely you jest.
Spike89 (712 posts) Fri Sep-17-10 12:00 PM
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16. Aside from the whole competency issue...
The circumstances are incredibly different. Obama was coming in on the heels of a tired and failed 2-term presidency with the repugs totally discredited. Palin faces an incumbent president from a party that still has a real advantage over the repugs. IF they were equal, Obama would still win easily with his advantages. They are NOT even close to equal.
If the repugs have a chance, they would have to nominate either a left-leaning "centrist" (or at least someone they can package as such) or a total cypher that doesn't have a record and thus can be whatever voters are looking for. Palin won't even come close to the nomination.
My, my, the primitives are a barrel of laughs today.
