Wherever you come down on the issue of the Florida Koran burners - good, bad, indifferent, increased danger to troops, no change in danger, etc. - you have to admit it has taken The Hive to soaring new heights of hypocrisy.
Where were these assholes when Andres Serrano was publishing photos of a crucifix submerged in urine? Where were they when Chris Ofili presented his portrait of the Virgin Mary covered with elephant dung? Where were they when Salman Rushdie was writing books that earned him a death fatwa from the Ayatollah Khomeini? Where were they when the Dutch newspapers were publishing cartoons depicting Mohammed with a bomb in place of a turban? Where were they when Muslims danced in the streets celebrating the deaths of 3000 Americans? Where are they when Muslims shout "Death to America!" and burn our flag? Where were they when our President was burned in effigy or suffering the Muslim insult of having shoes thrown at him? Finally, where are they when fellow DUers on a daily basis post the most vile, sick and insulting polemics and "jokes" about Christians and Jesus Christ Himself?
Silent, or solidly in the corner of those expressing such sentiments. That's where they are.
But now, since it's "Christian fundies" doing the insulting, they finally find their outrage.
The book burners (books they bought themselves, not confiscated from homes or libraries) are the "Nazis," while those screaming in bloodlust and threatening death for the affront are the "aggrieved party" and have to be understood and accommodated.
But at least, on the bright side, it's taken their minds off Glenn Beck for a while.
howard112211 (742 posts) Tue Sep-07-10 06:18 AM
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It's just plain dumb to invoke Freedom of Speech Re: Quran Burning.
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Claiming to be making a "statement against radicalization" and a "statement for free speech" in this particular form is just idiotic.
Burning books is not a statement towards free speech, it is a statement against it. By burning a book one seeks to destroy the words
written in this book, seeking to keep people from reading them or to suppress their meaning. A book burning is actually
authoritarianism and anti-freedom-of-speech in its purest form.
That said, I wonder when christians have ever had to endure this type of twisted "free speech". Yes, christianity gets mocked. Usually
in an intelligent form that exposes the weird behavior patterns it generates, such as Monty Python has done. Call me again when
we have "wipe your ass with the bible" videos on youtube...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9088251&mesg_id=9088251diveguy (30 posts) Tue Sep-07-10 06:31 AM
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2. I'll be damned
I tried to look it up on youtube. I cant watch the videos on this piece of crap work computer, but it's there. look up bible toliet paper. Also, a bunch of bible burning.
I wonder if it would be such an issue if it was a muslim burning a bible.
howard112211 (742 posts) Tue Sep-07-10 06:49 AM
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4. Really? Crap, I stand corrected on that...
Owned, like DUmbasses always are.
gophates (171 posts) Tue Sep-07-10 09:39 PM
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45. Got no problem seeing a big old bunch of Bibles burned.
I'll bring the marshmallows.
And not a single DUer jumped on you for that remark.
ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-07-10 07:26 AM
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11. you can bet that it would be a different story if it were someone burning a bible.
they would be pitching a fit. this crap is what the terrorists want, though. these people are doing the terrorists bidding. they are giving the terrorists what they want.
Someone would say something, for sure. But when was the last time you saw Christians rioting in the streets over a perceived insult?
Lots of other threads in GD on the subject, and to give the Devil his due, many come down on the side of free speech although they too hypocritically condemn the "hate and intolerance" of the Koran burners without a single mention of the same coming from the Muslims calling for violence and death.
