Interesting info about Bobbolink

[Kimberly]

Was poking around the DUmp and found this. Apparently a duer named laylah went to some length to try and help bobbo and was refused. Here's the scoop.

Linky

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-23-10 06:40 PM
Response to Original message
4. Its the new Calvinists. Judgmentalism reigns.
 Try being a homeless person, and look at the rampant Calvinism.

"We're gonna fix you if it KILLS you!"

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-23-10 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Just laugh at them.
 They have to defend their standards being better.

Haven't heard or scene that yet.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-23-10 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. So, victims of racism should just "laugh at" racists?
 Really?

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-23-10 07:12 PM
Original message
Why not, racist are funny.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-23-10 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
33. Ah, yes..... another insensitive provocation.
 Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 07:16 PM by bobbolink
Got it.

Sorry, you really didn't provoke me this time.

Better luck next time.
~~pointing and laughing at the silly poster~~

laylah  (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-23-10 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #33
77. I can no longer bite my tongue...
 there were people that travelled many a mile to help you out, Bobbolink! My daughters from FT.Collins included. You do what you have to and we ALL support you..and your awesome efforts. I just have a problem when you do not recognize those that have TRIED to help..and you have refused.

Block me once again because the truth, with so much other stuff, is hard for you to handle +

laylah  (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-23-10 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #33
81. I am SO angry with you...
 my children tried to help you, as did folks from Alton, IL...you refused the help. I am PISSED, as I read your contributions. You once blocked me, 3-4 years ago when MY CHILDREN TRIED TO HELP you, as did special DU'ers from Alton, IL. They made the trip..you turned them away after their MEGA trip, on your behalf!.

I am so VERY sorry for your predicament...I truly am; HOWEVER, I do believe you are a fake. You are happy where you are because those of that tried, were smacked down been there, done that, would not have commented otherwise.

 

laylah  (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-23-10 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #14
83. No, victims of ANYTHING 
 should accept help. Just saying...

laylah  (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-23-10 09:46 PM
Response to Original message
86. I will ALWAYS support
 Bobbolink; however, I need it to be known there was an outreach to her 2-3 years ago. my AWESOME children volunteered, taking a day off from work, AND there were folks from downstate Illinois, that drove those many hours. We were ALL refused the offered help. I am just saying...and I am PISSED, but only because Bobblink refuses to acknowledge the efforts. She would rather rant and rail.

The thread got locked and there was no response from bobbo. I sure would like to know the details about that trip.

[Ballygrl]

WOW!

[DumbAss Tanker]

Interesting; also consistent with veiled references to other ways out of her self-styled predicament that apparently weren't good enough for her.  She revels in being a victim and is loathe to give it up.  Of course, she is a DUmmie, so the level of truth in her diatribes about living in her car will always be suspect.

[Kimberly]

Also bobbo mixes it up with nadinbrzezinski and DainBramaged slams taterguy. A beautiful thread filled with love and harmony for their fellow liberals. 

taterguy  (1000+ posts)         Mon Aug-23-10 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #28
38. What's the American equivalent of a Trek 7.2 FX?
 That is, a quality bike made in America that retails for under $600?

If there is one, I'll buy it.

As for the premise of your thread: Our choices do impact others so others do have a right to make input on these choices.

DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)         Mon Aug-23-10 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Sure. Whatever you say. Of course, absolutely. 
 

Tell me I should be sorting my garbage the way you want it sorted and you'd be eating my garbage.

DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)         Mon Aug-23-10 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. 7.2 is a $599 bike. What's the point? Oh wait, a funny, hahahah 
 Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 07:45 PM by DainBramaged
the potato guy made a funny, hahahahah.

taterguy  (1000+ posts)         Mon Aug-23-10 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #49
57. The point is that I'd be happy to "Buy American" if there was something comparable
 There might be and I don't know about it.

Show your support for American workers by educating me.

Or does your support for American workers only apply to American automobile workers?

DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)         Mon Aug-23-10 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. I dislike you IMMENSELY, and I have NO intention of carrying on a conversation   
 with you. Your constant quest to force people into cycling no matter what their situation is a joy to behold.


Go 'peddle' your opinion to someone who cares.

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-23-10 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #73
78. Well, keep pushing. It adds so much. Got any more labels?
 You have made an excellent living example of what the OP is about.

Since it still isn't enough for you, I bow to your superiority. You are so much better informed, more articulate, and damned good at finding links.

And, I'm sure you eat better and are a very good recycler.

Do have a fine week.

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Mon Aug-23-10 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #78
79. You are the one pushing and always 
 making this about yourself.

But you know what? We all hit our limits.

Have a good ****ing life.

Goodbye.

[zeitgeist]

Could this be a beginning resurrection of Wee Willie The Pitt?  BO BO the HO HO better be listening for footsteps unless more politically connected to the PTB at DU (I suspect BO may be someone's Crazy Aunt in the DU hierarchy how else to explain the bullet proof lunacy?)

This is telling me more is actually known by insiders than is let on.  Cubicle bound researchers should be inspired by this find.  Interesting stuff waiting to be uncovered.   

[JohnnyReb]

Daddy was right...again..."You just can't help some people."

[bijou]

The back story fromm Bobbo herself

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Feb-02-08 04:32 PM
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Why I'm Homeless -- Necessarily Long, but I hope instructive...
   
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Introductory Information

Many years ago, when my child was first kidnapped and I was stunned into dysfunctionality, I was able on public support to go find and rent my own apartment. Now, the pay is so low that there is NOTHING, not even a garage, that one can afford to rent on public assistance. Disabled and elderly people, many of us getting as low as $637 a month!, are forced into public housing. There are 9 million of us who need public housing. There are 6 million units available. Even a first grader can do that math... there are 3 million of us at any given time to have no place to live.

I was living in one of these Section 8 apartments. I didn't want to be there.. middle of the downtown of a big city, depressing as hell, and LOUD. Most of these buildings are privately owned, which most people don't realize, and there is NO oversight as to how they are run. From the beginning in this building, which was owned and operated by the next door Buddhist Temple, there was at least one manager who was just downright MEAN. And elderly Japanese man, he always had a mean word for anyone who crossed his path. It was clear, after being there for a while, that they definitely favored their own, which was understandable to me, but it certainly gave me first-hand experience in what it's like to be the minority, and treated as such. I tried to take the experience in that light. One of their favorite things, knowing that we were trapped with no options, was to tell us that if we didnt' like it there, we should move. That'll mess with your head over time. At one point, I got to know the Buddhist priest, and when I told him this is what was said to us, he got angry, and said, "This is America, and nobody should be told to leave!" For a while that particular ugliness stopped... the priest had obviously had words with the management.

Then that particular priest left, and so did the old manager, only to be replaced by another one who cared about us even less, and was only out for her own agrandizement. That was soon followed by an assistant manager who was not only as mean as the old guy, but lived in the building and went out of his way to speak horridly to every tenant he came across, at whatever time of day. It made life a living hell. There was no escape from the meanness.

One time this little hitler commenced to yelling at one of the tenants during a tenant meeting... he was very abusive, and went on a tirade. There was much uproar about this, and apparently even the shy little old Japanese ladies complained to the Buddhist Temple. The little hitler was told that he must go to therapy if he wanted to keep his job. Well, I knew that would take the problem off the table temporarily, and sure enough, within a matter of months, he was back at it, yelling at people in the office, in the lobby, outside in the garden, just wherever he chose to abuse us. Many people saw the futility, and those who could, moved from the building, which meant many long-term residents left. That still didn't affect the powers that be.

One day my neighbor down the hall, David, a very sweet and quiet person, who always had a smile and kind greeting for everyone, told me that he had been humiliated by little hitler one too many times. One day, he got on the elevator, and little hitler was the only other one in the elevator. He told me he got right in his face, started yelling at him, and told him that NEVER AGAIN would he tolerate his abuse. He told me he said to him, "I know where you live, and I will come get you, take you to the pent house and dangle you over the edge by your feet while you cry and beg for mercy. Then I'll just happen to let go, and laugh as you tumble down those 20 floors. Oh, and by the way, should you decide to tell someone.... I *never* said a word to you." I said, "David! You didn't really do that!" He said, "yup, I did, and he has avoided me ever since!" When an abuser can turn a quiet, sweet person like David into one who threatens violence, then the situation has become horrendous!

David was quite ill, and the last thing he needed was abuse. There were many elderly people in the building who were doing everything they could just to hold on and not be sent to a nursing home. They certainly didn't need abuse. There were many other ill people who couldn't spare the energy to deal with this crap --one woman I particularly remember had cancer, and just hid in her apartment to avoid him. What a life.

One day I saw this little hitler pushing and pulling an elderly chinese woman -- Because she couldn't speak English! -- and he just about had her down to the pavement. I yelled at him .. "Mike, STOP! We're human beings, not cattle!" Apparently I surprised him enough that he let up pressure just enough that she got away. Another few seconds, and he might very well have had her down, and who knows what bones might have been broken. She was shaking like a leaf, and I tried to reassure her, without Chinese, that I was going to stay with her, and that it wasn't her fault. There were other tenants around, but nobody spoke up.... that is the nature of abuse and power.

The family of this woman immediately moved her out of the building, and she was gone. I spent days making phone calls, trying to find an organization which would DO something, now that we had clear evidence of PHYSICAL abuse. To no avail.... each organization only referred me to another one, and another one, ad nauseum. I gave up. I couldn't believe that even physical abuse had no recourse, but that is the fact.

As you can imagine, he turned his wrath on me. No good deed, etc. All this time, since he was the one we had to go through to get our yearly Section 8 recertifications, we had been avoiding him. We went to the Resources Coordinator for the building, who would get the papers from little hitler, we would fill them out and get copies of the necessary documents and give them to her, and she would turn them into him, then she'd get the paper back for us to sign, and turn the signed paper back into him. After my clash with him, he would no longer accept this, as he couldn't stand that people could avoid him. He made up his own rule, which was NOT HUD rule, that we had to go through him. The Resource Coordinator would no longer stand up to him, and the manager of the building insisted we all obey his homemade rule.

I knew that I could NOT deal with him alone, so I went back to the phone, and after 3 days of constant calls, it was clear there was NO RECOURSE... either suffer the abuse or leave. I finally did what I didn't want to do, and went to the Victim's Assistance program, knowing it was inevitable that would mean the cops would be drawn in. This city, Denvoid, is known for abusive cops, and I had dealt with a few of them when my car was broken in, so this was the very last resort for me.

The Victim's advocate was the ONLY one who took an interest at all. She was appalled at the abuse. Of course, she wanted me to talk with a cop. This is the one little bit of humor... the officer who came in is named.... Snow White. I kid you not. Well, dear Snow showed no compassion, no sign at all that she had any empathy for what we were going through. She did, however, agree to go with me when I had to meet with little hitler for my recertification.

We agreed to meet in the lobby at 1pm, and the door to the office was still closed. When it opened and we went in, all the managers were in there, and the sound was palpable as their jaws hit the floor to see a cop in full uniform with gun and all accompanying me to see little hitler. I said nothing to him, and he was clearly shaken.

When the business was concluded and the cop and I left, we got out the door and she turned to me and said, "Well, how was it?" I just burst out laughing, and said that was the first time he had spoken in a tone that could be heard. She looked at me puzzled, and I said, "His favorite thing, especially with elders who have little hearing, is to talk very softly, so nobody can hear him. Then, when we say, "I didn't hear you", HE YELLS AT US.. What a dear. Anyway, I asked the cop to keep a file on him, and she was clearly not wanting to, but gave me her card, and said she'd see if she could open a file.

Thereafter, I made up little cards that I carried around with me that had both the phone number for the Victim Advocate and the cop (yes, many didn't believe there could actually be an officer named Snow White!). When someone would complain to me about little hitler, I'd say, Do you want to do something about it? If they said no, I just replied, Sorry, complaining won't help, and I can't listen to complaints anymore. I'd had enough of helplessness, and trying single-handedly to get action. If they said yes, if there was something to do, they would, I'd give them a card, and tell them to call those numbers and make a complaint where it could have an effect. I found out later that even one of the staff people called the cop to complain! I was told that the cop actually called the Resources Coordinator and basicallly said, "What the hell is going on there?!" Apparently the cop had had enough calls of complaint to make her realize it wasn't just me.

However, I was told that nothing could be done. That if the little hitler abused one group but not another, they could get him on descrimination. But since he was an equal opportunity abuser, we'd just have to live with it or move.

Now, lest you think this building was just one rotten apple in the barrel, let me assure you that is not the case. During this time I was working with an organization devoted to getting single-payer health care. I had come to know one of the doctors involved with this effort, and had told her what I was dealing with in this group. I had learned about a Section 8 tenants group, and set her up to speak about health care at their next meeting. She later told me that during their break, she listened to their conversations, and they were all asking each other where they lived, if there were vacancies, and how the management was. They ALL were upset with the abuse of the management in all the buildings, and trying to find something better! This made quite an impresssion on this doctor, and she was taking me much more seriously after that.

Another of my neighbors (David had died by this time.... which is why I feel like I can use his name...) got fed up with the abuse, and set up a tenants meeting with a lawyer from Legal Aid, a HUD representative, someone from the Housing Authority, and several other "officials". She asked me to take part, and I said I would if I could, but I knew by then there was nothing that could be done unless all the tenants got together and staged a HUGE rebellion. At this meeting, they were basically told what I had been told before... nothing could be done. She came to me afterwards and said, "You were right, and I can't fight it anymore." She left and moved into a nother building and told me later that the management was better, but it was horribly infested with bugs.

After the year with the cop, I had a Lutheran pastor who would accompany me for about 5 years as I had to apply for recertification. With his presence, little hitler wasn't so abusive. Then, he changed the date of the recertifications, and the pastor was out of town. I had been very ill, and was at the end of what I could deal with. I also knew that I was wearing out, and couldn't take any more abuse, or I'd become just as ugly as they were. So, I finally decided to just leave. Just pull out and leave all my stuff behind, and just take off.


First and foremost, EVERYONE should be receiving enough money to be able to rent a market rate apartment! By forcing us into public housing we are made a special and powerless group, at the mercy of those who would take advantage of us, and they KNOW we're powerless, and like to make sure we know that, too.

Second, EVERY public and private organization or government entity that serves poor and homeless people MUST include the voices and needs and wants of that group of people! This should go without saying, and it used to be a given. At the very least, there needs to be an ombudsman, seperate from the entity, where the people "served" can make reports on what they have dealt with, how they were treated, whether their needs were met, etc.

Both sHill and Abamination are going to run right out and draft legislation that would protect people like me from this kind of abuse, right? Riiiiggghhhhtttt......

With the shortage of public housing, who is going to take on the issue of rampant abuse in said housing?

We can give $$$ to Coalition for the Homeless, but they already know of this, and are doing.... what?

There are many Civil Rights organizations..... who among them is supporting people abused in public housing? None, that I could find...

Does Edwards' Institute on poverty have a section that addresses abuse and legal problems of those in public housing? What would it take to get him to include this and move on it?

How can we organize some massive interviews of people who are living in public housing, to find the measure of the problem?

I know this is long and involved, and a huge problem. But PLEASE take the time to read, digest what the reality is, and let's put our heads together. There is CONSIDERABLE brain wattage here with Edwardians, and I think we can come up with some ideas!

Thank you for all your considerable support!

:yourock:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=257&topic_id=5822&mesg_id=5822

[bijou]

Here's another spat! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8993594#8995216

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Aug-22-10 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. NO? Really? Then why won't you and others speak up against it?
   
Why am I left alone with it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I asked you to support me on this, and got silence. Silence means acquiescence.

This is finally the line.....
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU!    Sun Aug-22-10 02:32 PM
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13. I did speak up...
   


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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Aug-22-10 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. That was not my request to you.
   
If I were to go around posting "When you are finished being gay by choice...." I would not only be BLASTED OUT OF EXISTENCE, but it would be erased immediately.

I certainly wouldn't be receiving polite refutations.

I made a specific request to you... a very reasonable one.

It was ignored.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU!    Sun Aug-22-10 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. I posted what I posted there because it's what I felt to be true...
   


and I expressed it in my way. I'm sorry my way is not your way nor is it good enough for you. You can't claim to know how I would respond to anything; you aren't me, Bobbie.

As for the second part of your request, I did that.

Please note that you were NOT ignored.

[Revolution]

That was the most outlandish bouncy I have ever read. Bobbo may think she is owed everything in the world, but that b*tch owes me 15 minutes of her life, and an apology.

And yes, it took me 15 minutes to read that pile of bovine scatology bobbo calls a post.

[bijou]

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[bijou]

That was the most outlandish bouncy I have ever read. Bobbo may think she is owed everything in the world, but that b*tch owes me 15 minutes of her life, and an apology.

And yes, it took me 15 minutes to read that pile of bovine scatology bobbo calls a post.

It was epic, even by DU's standards.

[Revolution]

Honestly, even DUmors have to be hopping mad at this chick. I don't know a lot of DUmor's backgrounds, but for all I know, she lives in a Mansion, and wear pricey fur coats while riding anywhere, and everywhere by limo. Exaggeration, of course, but jeez. How do they feel having this low a lifeforum on their "beautiful island???"

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Honestly, even DUmors have to be hopping mad at this chick. I don't know a lot of DUmor's backgrounds, but for all I know, she lives in a Mansion, and wear pricey fur coats while riding anywhere, and everywhere by limo. Exaggeration, of course, but jeez. How do they feel having this low a lifeforum on their "beautiful island???"

People who have every right to call Bobo the Hobo out on her pity-wallowing and refusals to be productively assisted have to dance so gingerly in their criticisms while she is allowed to be as vicious as she pleases.

Bobo is Skinner's mascot for social sensitivity and the rest have learned to respect the lash.

[IassaFTots]

Try as I might, I can't get past this first sentence.......

Many years ago, when my child was first kidnapped and I was stunned into dysfunctionality

[Splashdown]

Wait a sec!

Bobbo is homeless?

 

[JohnnyReb]

Wait a sec!

Bobbo is homeless?

 

No. She has a Buick Skykark with a pool table and stone fireplace in it.

[Ballygrl]

It would be epic if Bobbo turned out to be a mole LOL.

[Chris_]

Can you imagine the burnout/TS thread?

No. She has a Buick Skykark with a pool table and stone fireplace in it.

[Revolution]

  Not even one of those H2 Limos would hold one of those amenities.

[delilahmused]

Okay, I have absolutely no clue how the Calvinists fit into this story but instead of moving into the street why not get together with a 2 or 3 other people who are unhappy living there and rent a house or condo together. Probably be cheaper than the section 8 housing and a better neighborhood. Why can't these people ever get beyond self pity and think of solutions?

Cindie

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Try as I might, I can't get past this first sentence.......

Many years ago, when my child was first kidnapped and I was stunned into dysfunctionality

Translation: I have been mentally ill for many years and the state decided to protect my child because i was a danger to it.

[Chris_]

That single sentence says more than the rest of that entire post.  I would really like to hear the back story.

[IassaFTots]

Translation: I have been mentally ill for many years and the state decided to protect my child because i was a danger to it.

   Now that makes sense.  But I still can't get past it, to move on to the rest of her blah blah blah.

[delilahmused]

  Now that makes sense.  But I still can't get past it, to move on to the rest of her blah blah blah.

Really! If that's true I can understand her mental condition. But what the hell happened? Did she get the kid back? Did she never find him/her? Is said child living with the father? No one over there was concerned enough to ask her what happened?

Cindie

[Chris_]

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Sat May-08-10 12:55 PM
Response to Original message
4. I think I understand your pain. My son was kidnapped when he was 8, and Mother's Day has been horrible for me since then.

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Sun May-09-10 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Father=safe? My son was beaten by his father. Repeatedly.

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8295782#8296106