Lazy moochers who hate being called lazy moochers hail the lazy mooch vote

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

babylonsister  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-14-10 01:15 AM
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Checkmate, from the President
   
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/10/opinion/10tue1.html?_...

A Welfare Check and a Voting Card
Published: August 9, 2010


After years of deliberate neglect, the Justice Department is finally beginning to enforce the federal law requiring states to provide voter registration at welfare and food stamp offices. The effort not only promises to bring hundreds of thousands of hard-to-reach voters into the electorate, but it could also reduce the impact of advocacy organizations whose role in registering voters caused such a furor in 2008.

The National Voter Registration Act of 1993, better known as the motor-voter law, is well-known for making it possible to register to vote at state motor vehicle offices. However, the law also required states to allow registration at offices that administer food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, disability assistance and child health programs. States were enthusiastic about the motor-vehicle section of the law, and millions of new voters got on the rolls while getting a driver’s license. But registration at public assistance offices proved far less popular.

In part, that was because of additional paperwork at those offices, but in many states, Republican officials did not want to provide easy entry to the voting rolls for low-income people whom they considered more likely to vote Democratic. The Bush administration devoted its attention to seeking out tiny examples of voter fraud and purging people from the rolls in swing states. It did little to enforce the motor-voter law despite years of complaints from civic groups and Democratic lawmakers.

In April, however, President Obama’s Justice Department sent the states a set of guidelines making it clear that it expected full compliance with the public-assistance office section of the law — the first time in the 15-year history of the motor-voter law that the Justice Department has explained what kinds of offices are covered and what procedures are to be used. The guidelines make it clear that people applying for benefits must not only be offered the chance to register but must be given help in filling out the forms if they ask. If states do not comply voluntarily, lawsuits are likely to follow.

The administration will undoubtedly be accused of acting in a self-serving political way by making it easier for more Democrats to vote. The effort may have that effect. But it is worth remembering that the recession has brought millions of new people to food stamp and other welfare offices in the last two years, many of whom may not be traditional Democrats. In addition, government offices are much more likely to provide reliable registrations than Acorn or other advocacy groups that were widely accused of fraudulent sign-ups in the last cycle. Welfare offices generally have extensive methods of verifying identities in order to provide benefits, and it is illegal to provide false records there.

But the best reason to applaud the Justice Department’s new posture is that it will bring more voters into public life. When advocacy groups sued Ohio and Missouri to force their public assistance offices into complying, huge groups of new voters surged onto the rolls — more than 100,000 in Ohio, and more than 200,000 in Missouri. Nationwide enforcement by the Justice Department could add millions more. The more people who have access to the ballot, the better the country will be.

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[Tucker]

How is this checkmate

MI. just had their primary and Detroit had a 17% voter turnout. It's around 60% for the General Election, and going down every cycle.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

How is this checkmate

MI. just had their primary and Detroit had a 17% voter turnout. It's around 60% for the General Election, and going down every cycle.

Simple.

Use socialist economic policies to destroy economy and get people hooked on the public dole then when they file for benefits tell them if they dare vote republican they and their children will starve.

If Obama can't do it, who can?

[Tucker]

Simple.

Use socialist economic policies to destroy economy and get people hooked on the public dole then when they file for benefits tell them if they dare vote republican they and their children will starve.

If Obama can't do it, who can?

In their (wet)dream. With 47% paying no taxes to support the social programs, the system is going to crash.

[true_blood]

In their (wet)dream. With 47% paying no taxes to support the social programs, the system is going to crash.

Very true. But, with the communist pig running the Country, it will collapse a lot sooner.

[Ballygrl]

I always thought that people who receive Welfare should have their voting rights revoked until they give up those benefits, they're always going to vote for what's in their best interests, but what's in their best interests AREN'T in the best interests of those paying for it!

Also add an IQ test to vote while we're at it.

[USA4ME]

Cute, but if they're too lazy to work, they're too lazy to vote.  They're probably too lazy to sign up to vote even given this.

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[NHSparky]

Cute, but if they're too lazy to work, they're too lazy to vote.  They're probably too lazy to sign up to vote even given this.

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It doesn't take a large percentage if you sign them up 20-30 times each.

[USA4ME]

It doesn't take a large percentage if you sign them up 20-30 times each.

I'm not saying it won't work some.  But let's face it, most people interested in the political system and wanting to vote will do what it takes to sign up and vote.  If you're having to shove it under their nose to get them to sign up, then even if they do they're likely too disinterested to make the effort.  Of course, now it means they can get called for jury duty, which is its own scary thought.

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[Tucker]

I'm not saying it won't work some.  But let's face it, most people interested in the political system and wanting to vote will do what it takes to sign up and vote.  If you're having to shove it under their nose to get them to sign up, then even if they do they're likely too disinterested to make the effort.  Of course, now it means they can get called for jury duty, which is its own scary thought.

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In MI., they changed the jury pool to those with a drivers license, not voter registration. Most people drive.

[Randy]

From watching COPS for many many years I can safely say that most Obama supporters on that show do not have current, up to date, valid Drivers Licenses.  :innocent:

[Freeper]

Historic NY  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-14-10 05:41 PM
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51. thanks for explaining there are people screaming all over here...
   
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 05:41 PM by Historic NY
Democrats & Liberals are mostly generous to those less fortunate.

Yeah generous with other people's money. Not so generous with their own.

[true_blood]

From watching COPS for many many years I can safely say that most Obama supporters on that show do not have current, up to date, valid Drivers Licenses.  :innocent:

Or even driver's licenses to begin with!

[AllosaursRus]

Cute, but if they're too lazy to work, they're too lazy to vote.  They're probably too lazy to sign up to vote even given this.

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Hell, even if they sign up, they won't show up until O'Bummer provides the bus to pick them up and dump them at the precinct! Lazy is as lazy does!

Uh..... doncha have to show ID in order to get free bees? When are they goin' to start bitchin' it's illegal to request that because it is now voter intimidation?

[Chris_]

Uh..... doncha have to show ID in order to get free bees? When are they goin' to start bitchin' it's illegal to request that because it is now voter intimidation?

Welcome to 2005: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html

[AllosaursRus]

Welcome to 2005: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR2005102702171.html

Oh I know they shoot down the ID to vote every time it's tried! I was speakin' of the ID for welfare requirement!

If you have to show ID in order to collect the state's free bees and and have to show ID, they'll bitch it is the same as showin' ID to vote! You will no longer have to show ID to sign up for welfare!

I see a massive influx of welfare recipients in the near future!

[Freeper]

Oh I know they shoot down the ID to vote every time it's tried! I was speakin' of the ID for welfare requirement!

If you have to show ID in order to collect the state's free bees and and have to show ID, they'll bitch it is the same as showin' ID to vote! You will no longer have to show ID to sign up for welfare!

I see a massive influx of welfare recipients in the near future!

Oh yeah I am sure they will compare it to nazi Germany "Papers please" to get your constitutionally guaranteed free checks. 

It also kills me that standing outside a polling place calling people crackers waving a baton isn't voter intimidation but, dare ask that people prove who they claim to be is voter intimidation. I swear I keep wondering if Rod Serling is standing behind the curtain waiting to give his little speech before we go to commercial.