Demands from the left - (DUmmy of the year possibility)

[Carl]

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TBF  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-07-10 02:11 PM
Original message
Demands from the left -    
      

I've seen many lists the past few days. Lists of what Obama has perhaps accomplished in the past two years, lists of what would happen if Republicans were in power instead. I decided to put up my own list for your perusal. Well, it's not actually MY list, a good friend wrote it a few years ago. Hopefully it will not make too many heads explode. When you're wondering why we're not dutifully agreeing with everything the president is currently doing, keep in mind that this is what we'd like to see -


DEMANDS:

1) Universal Single Payer Health Care

2) Promotion/Development of Local Food Systems

3) Government subsidized heating programs

4) 90% Reduction In Military Budget

5) Immediate Development Of Nationwide Mass Transit System

6) Immediate Withdrawal Of US Troops From All Parts Of The Globe

7) Triple The Taxes For Anyone Making Over $75,000/ Year. Sliding Scale Tilting Upwards

8) Immediate Dissolution Of All Federal Banking Systems followed by Creation Of Local Currencies

8) Elimination Of Rent/Mortgage

10) Fair Trials For All Members Of The Senate

11) Open Borders For People, Closed Borders For Bananas

12) Elimination of all Free Trade Agreements

Naturally when I skip into my polling place and look for these issues on the ballot I'll be aroused and gleeful to pull that lever "in favor of" but lacking that I’d say it’s time for direct action.
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HOW TO DO IT:

- Massive boycotts and a general strike.

- A huge 'None of the above' vote-reform campaign

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-07-10 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. 8) Elimination Of Rent/Mortgage
   To start. How do you figure this is going to happen? Do we just give everyone their house? Who builds these houses? What chance to do you see that there would be any real support for such a thing? Now, I don't have a mortgage. My house is paid for. Are you going to give it to someone else? I don't think so.

I could go on, but I won't bother.
   

TBF  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-07-10 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Yes, private property should be the first thing to go.    
   Edited on Sat Aug-07-10 02:43 PM by TBF
You're an owner so you disagree.

On and on it goes with about half pointing out the stupid and half applauding it.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

TBF  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-07-10 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #60
66. Currently in the US I believe we're at least 65% ownership - correct?
   
Edited on Sat Aug-07-10 11:15 PM by TBF
A lot of the gains in home ownership were in decades like the 60's when there was less of a gap between rich and poor. I predict those rates will continue to drop as the gap between rich & poor continues to grow. Eventually with fewer owning their homes (and more going into foreclosure daily) there are going to be fewer folks thinking I'm silly on that....

Golly what happened to stop the growth seen in the 60's?

Oh, that's right: the welfare state.

proteus_lives  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Aug-07-10 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #76
81. Life is supposed to be fair?
   
When did that go in effect? I must of missed that proclamation.

No matter where you go, there is unfairness. That's been a fact since day one.

Careful dude. HotAir.com just posted a link to a monologue by Limbaugh expounding on just such a premise.

[DefiantSix]

Careful dude. HotAir.com just posted a link to a monologue by Limbaugh expounding on just such a premise.

I wonder how hard it would be to float the theory past $kimmer that Proteus is Limbaugh's mole in the DUmp?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I wonder how hard it would be to float the theory past $kimmer that Proteus is Limbaugh's mole in the DUmp?

He's a big supporter of RKBA so we may not want to see him bounced.

[Ballygrl]

WOW! so much stupidity.

[Ballygrl]

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)          Sat Aug-07-10 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. 8) Elimination Of Rent/Mortgage
   To start. How do you figure this is going to happen? Do we just give everyone their house? Who builds these houses? What chance to do you see that there would be any real support for such a thing? Now, I don't have a mortgage. My house is paid for. Are you going to give it to someone else? I don't think so.

I could go on, but I won't bother.

That fool of an OP is on your side of the aisle, fighting the fight you fight, that OP is able to go on stupid rants because people like you encourage them, and this little smackdown isn't going to change that your views and his are entrenched!

[thundley4]

7) Triple The Taxes For Anyone Making Over $75,000/ Year. Sliding Scale Tilting Upwards

That is really showing wealth envy.

[Chris_]

10) Fair Trials For All Members Of The Senate

I didn't read the thread... what is this pinhead referring to?

[Airwolf]

And they wonder why we call them DUmpmonkies because only a human with a brain the size of a pea could post shit like this. Oh and by the way to the OP on DU. FOAD.

[Mike220]

I think this DUmmy is trying way too hard. That said, he's actually making a decent run to the top of my list.

[Mr Mannn]

This just shoots right off the stupid meter.

OK so no one pays for housing ever. Its a gift from the government.
Yet. Housing today is unequal. there are mansions, various levels of family homes, mobile homes, and apartments.

How will all this be distributed fairly? Up to now it was dependent on the ability to pay.
But I can't see a democratic government doing anything without graft and corruption.
Certainly when all property belongs to the government, what they can give, they can take away.

either the party hacks get the good houses, or everything is torn down and we all live in massive apartment complexes where 10 families share a single bathroom facility.

Seriously. We are rationing health care already.
And people want to give property to the government?

Liberalism is a mental disease. These guys at DU are retards. Every time I think I've seen the bottom of the barrel, they manage to dig deeper.

[Mike220]

This just shoots right off the stupid meter.

OK so no one pays for housing ever. Its a gift from the government.
Yet. Housing today is unequal. there are mansions, various levels of family homes, mobile homes, and apartments.

How will all this be distributed fairly? Up to now it was dependent on the ability to pay.
But I can't see a democratic government doing anything without graft and corruption.
Certainly when all property belongs to the government, what they can give, they can take away.

either the party hacks get the good houses, or everything is torn down and we all live in massive apartment complexes where 10 families share a single bathroom facility.

Seriously. We are rationing health care already.
And people want to give property to the government?

Liberalism is a mental disease. These guys at DU are retards. Every time I think I've seen the bottom of the barrel, they manage to dig deeper.

Yay! Commieblocks for everyone. The Party elite get the dachas in the suburbs though.

[JohnnyReb]

This extreme form of socialism will work if only we'd give it a chance....again....for the umpteenth time.

They have nothing except for that which has been handed to them by the government. So, quite naturally, they expect more to be handed to them by that same government.

[I_B_Perky]

Liberalism is a mental disease. These guys at DU are retards. Every time I think I've seen the bottom of the barrel, they manage to dig deeper.

One would think their hole would have reached China by now.   

[mamacags]

Posted this on my facebook page.  That kind of stupid should have to be smacked into the face of every Obama voter on this Earth.

[Chris_]

Posted this on my facebook page.  That kind of stupid should have to be smacked into the face of every Obama voter on this Earth.

And I demanded what they should do in the comment.  It's just one demand, unlike the 12 this DUmbass posted.

Seriously though... triple taxes for anyone making over $75,000?  Is he/she talking about a single person or a married couple?  That's a lot of people getting taxed.  Pure stupidity.

[PatriotGame]

Not this "I WANT MY FREE SHIT!!!111" again!

[PatriotGame]

I didn't read the thread... what is this pinhead referring to?

Rangel and Waters are being UNfairly persecuted.

[Karin]

TBF is a barking moonbat communist.  He may make my list. 

ProgressiveProfessor  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-08-10 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #135
172. Indeed forced collectivism caused massive failures in housing and food production
 Sorry, sometimes the truth comes out to trump fantasy wrapped as sarcasm.

 TBF  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-09-10 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #172
177. Those tent cities aren't fantasies, Professor, 
 they are the result of capitalism. 
 

 ProgressiveProfessor  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-09-10 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #177
184. Neither was Stalin
 Who exiled and killed so many more

Common Sense Party  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
65. 13. Universal Free Distribution of Whatever it is that You're Smoking
 You are stoned if you think you'd have half a chance at enacting much of anything on this list. If you think any of this is feasible, you're not paying attention to what country we live in.

That maryf is just as stupid as the OP.  She pops in every now and then to cheer.  Annoying. 

I definitely recommend going over and reading, just to see what we're up against.  An anthropoligical study. 

[zeitgeist]

Glad I read this one, it reminded me I am all out of Cheetos  gets in my bridge work.

[AllosaursRus]

Tax the shit outa everyone who makes over $75,000! What a frikkin great idea!

No new car sales, absolutely no boat sales, jet skis, off road vehicles, no vacations, as who could afford to go farther than across the street, forget steak, how many pets would have to be euthanized, computer sales would drop off the face of the earth, the list would go on forever on what we could no longer afford!

How many jobs lost does this DUmbass think would be lost from all the people who manufacture everything in that list?

Yep, they'd get exactly what they want! We'd be a third world country like N. Korea. Grass for dinner anyone?

[true_blood]

I'm in awe of these DUmmies!! WOW. So much stupidity, it is EPIC!!

[Karin]

I went back over this morning to visit this extraordinary thread.  Here's what's going on:

apocalypsehow (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-08-10 07:06 PM
Response to Original message
173. "Elimination of Rent/Mortgage"? LOL - good luck with *that*. 
 This is more like a thread to caricature the "Left," not quantify a set of reasonable goals.   

TBF  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-09-10 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #173
179. That seems to be the one that freaks people out the most -   
 well that and the bananas. I personally don't see the big deal about ownership, but I guess people are used to a house being the only thing they really "have" in this country (the lucky ones anyway), so we might have to adjust that one a little.

  Adjust that one a little.  Words fail me. 

TBF  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-09-10 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #176
181. Agreed, I believe ridding the world of capitalism is the only thing that will help the animals -

alcibiades_mystery  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-09-10 08:38 AM
Response to Original message
180. Unrecommend for Weirdo Martyr Complex

NeedleCast (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-09-10 12:09 PM
Response to Original message
189. Hard for me to get behind your program
 when you propose tripling my taxes because I make very slightly over 75,000/year.

Let me know when you have a set of realistic demands. 

NeedleCast (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-09-10 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #194
203. No, you shouldn't raise the income level, you should set the tax at a resonable level
 Your proposal to triple my taxes would mean I'd be paying roughly a 90% tax rate. 

TBF  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-09-10 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #191
197. I've been a dem since birth -   
 my dad worked in a steel mill and belonged to a union. Both parents high school graduates. I've always voted dem, and most recently worked on the Obama campaign. Not because I thought he would change much economically - but on cultural issues I'm more in line with him.

Do I consider myself a dem? In voting and that sort of thing I fall there. But I also read the Communist Manifesto when I was about 15 and thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever read politically. There is a group of Marxists I hang with on-line and I've learned tons.
 

Where's HUAC when you need it? 

Welcome to www.communistunderground.com. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

alcibiades_mystery  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-09-10 08:38 AM
Response to Original message
180. Unrecommend for Weirdo Martyr Complex

[AllosaursRus]

Do I consider myself a dem? In voting and that sort of thing I fall there. But I also read the Communist Manifesto when I was about 15 and thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever read politically. There is a group of Marxists I hang with on-line and I've learned tons.

what????????????

When this nitwit was 15? Wonder how old this POS is? Wonder exactly how many people the communists of the world were scrubbing off the face of the earth at the time, in order to make their Marxist Utopia's?

This asshat is a real patriot, ain't he? Since he was 15! Die mutha ****a!