Author Topic: primitives discuss their first job  (Read 4529 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
primitives discuss their first job
« on: August 08, 2010, 05:36:10 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8900596

Oh my.

However, it's important to remember that many primitives have never had a job, period, in their lives.

The subway cat, for example, isn't at this campfire.

Or 99% of the other primitives.

Quote
NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 11:03 PM
THE GROUCHY OLD PRIMITIVE
Original message

How old were you when you first began making some money?

I was 12 when I began caddying at Olympia Fields Country Club. Used to hitchhike about 10 miles to get there every morning. Didn't make a lot of money. But it was steady work through the summer and occasionally you would get lucky and get to go out with a big tipper.

That's where I learned how to smoke and gamble too. Lagging quarters with a Marlboro hanging out of my mouth. The caddy master didn't care. He was smoking and gambling right along with us.

Quote
Tunkamerica  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 11:08 PM
Response to Original message
 
1. 15.

Ice cream shop/restaurant. Worked as a dish washer, then later as a "scooper".

Quote
Odin2005  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-08-10 12:52 AM
THE PROFESSIONAL ASPERGER
Response to Reply #1
 
38. HA! I worked at a ma-and-pa ice cream place when i was 15, too!

Worked the till and made the ice cream cones and malts.

Quote
seabeyond  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:10 PM
Response to Original message
 
3. 12. my parents bought a couple small businesses. i was babysitting for about a year.

Quote
Speck Tater (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 11:11 PM
THE DIRTY POTATO PRIMITIVE
Response to Original message
 
4. I was about 11 or 12 when me and some friends built a kick-ass koolaid stand

We lived only 3 blocks from a popular lake, so we set up our stand on the beach and made 20 or 30 dollars a day. That was in 1956, so that was BIG money for kids back then.

Quote
EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:11 PM
DOUG'S STUPID EX-WIFE, #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Original message

5. I was 12, too. My mom bought a restaurant and I learned how to wait tables. Actually, before then, I started baby sitting when I was 8. I was the oldest kid on the block and I must have had an honest face.

Oh my, how Doug's stupid ex-wife's and franksolich's lives have been similar.

As a kid, franksolich used to babysit too, and got higher wages than girl babysitters did.

franksolich never did the restaurant bit, though.

Quote
Book Lover (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 11:12 PM
Response to Original message
 
6. 13

Chambermaid for the summer resort hotel that my father was the head chef for. Eventually I moved up into running the laundry department. That's where I learned that hard work has its rewards, but is not inherently ennobling. It's also where I became radicalized, though I didn't have the words for it back then.

Quote
CoffeeCat (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:12 PM
Response to Original message
 
7. My father owned fast-food restaurants...

...in malls.

I began working there when I was eight. By the time I was ten, I was waiting on customers, running
the cash register and counting back change and doing most of the things his high-school help was doing.

The experience was invaluable.

It still bothers me today, when you go into a grocery store or Target--and they hand you back
your change and they don't count it back!

Quote
lazarus   (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 11:14 PM
Response to Original message
 
8. 13 or 14 loading 50 pound bags of dog feed at my uncle's store. Then hauling hay on a friend's farm as I got bigger. My first "real" job, with a time clock and pay check, was at 16. I turned 16, bought a truck with my mom's help, and immediately got a job at the local Dairy Queen as a cook. Kept that job for 2 years, until I left for college. Still hauled hay for extra money on weekends and afternoons when I wasn't working at the DQ.

In the meantime, my 18 year old can't keep a part time job handing out samples at the local Farmer's Market because it's "boring". I'm about to cut off the allowance.

Quote
madmom (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:15 PM
Response to Original message
 
9. 12 babysitting & mowing lawns, 15 working in an ice cream shop.

Quote
liberal N proud  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:16 PM
Response to Original message
 
10. 12

I was mowing lawns at 12, working on the farm (baling hay and walking beans) at 13 and bagging groceries at 15.

Quote
shraby  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:17 PM
Response to Original message
 
13. 7 or 8..picked strawberries for 5 cents a quart.

My mother and my aunt took turns going to pick cause one had to watch the younger kids (2 for each) and I went every day to keep the continuity so when picking for money was done, they could pick what was left in the field to can it.

Also picked raspberries for 10 cents a quart for the same reason and same conditions..they were harder to do cause the darn berries would settle as I picked. Gramma showed me how to "fluff" them before I took them up to the stand for my dimes. What was about 3/4 of a quart would become a full quart.

Quote
JCMach1  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:20 PM
Response to Original message
 
16. 7 picking nitecrawlers for Grandfather's business at .25cent a cup

YUCK!

Quote
Kali  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 11:20 PM
NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE BITTER OLD VERMONTESE CALI PRIMITIVE
Response to Original message

17. 9 or 10 - Ironing for my Mom
12 or so - babysitting
13 or 14 - typing bibliography cards for my father

all my life - my Grampa "paid" me for "helping" him on the ranch, usually at the end of summer

first "on the books" job was waiting tables, then a pet store

Quote
shanti  (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:25 PM
Response to Original message
 
20. 16

my first job was carl's jr. in south santa ana (ca) as a waitress. we had to wear hose, a white polyester nurse's type dress and shoes, a rubberized green frilly apron and a little hat.  i drove back and forth to work in my aunt's hand me down '55 chevy bel air. that was in 1971. oh, and i think i made $1.75 an hour.

Quote
bpositive (8 posts)      Sat Aug-07-10 11:25 PM
Response to Original message
 
21. A long time ago

Depends on what you mean by money. I started taking out garbage for the elderly for change when I was 8 YO. Worked my way up to shoveling snow for neighbors at age 10. Worked under the table bussing tables at 13. been working a number of jobs since. Now I am a professional working in the insurance industry.

Quote
Snarkoleptic (1000+ posts)        Sat Aug-07-10 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
 
22. I used to detassel popcorn at age 14.

Hard work w/ low pay but a great character builder.

It's a big campfire, but 99% of the primitives, never having had a job, period, aren't at it.

No unusual sorts of jobs listed, but when franksolich was a freshman and sophomore in college, he used to make beer money--and sometimes lots of it--writing letters for other people; letters to parents asking for money, letters to parents explaining why one had gotten into jail, letters to professors protesting a grade, letters of complaint to businesses, letters to the editor, and love letters.

Ten bucks a shot, ten minutes of my time.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline diesel driver

  • Creepy Ass Cracker and Smart-Ass White Boy!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9130
  • Reputation: +609/-55
  • Enhancing My Carbon Footprint!
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 07:05:35 AM »
I helped my dad on our farm all my life.  I was riding with him on tractors when I was 2 or 3, I was driving tractors by the time I was 6.  I'm talking a Farmall "H" and International 460.  When I was 8, I used our Farmall 806 to plow a 65 acre field out from the house with a 5-bottom moldboard plow, by myself!  I remember I was driving the tractor standing up to see over the steering wheel. 

By the time I was 10, Dad could tell me what he wanted done and where, and I could go do it. 

About the only thing I hadn't done before I was a teenager was loose my virginity.   :whatever:
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

Liberals are like Slinkys.  Basically useless, but they do bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs...
 
Global warming supporters believe that a few hundred million tons of CO2 has more control over our climate than a million mile in diameter, unshielded thermo-nuclear fusion reactor at the middle of the solar system.

"A dead enemy is a peaceful enemy.  Blessed be the peacemakers". - U.S. Marine Corp

You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out of office.

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 07:31:32 AM »
I helped my dad on our farm all my life.  I was riding with him on tractors when I was 2 or 3, I was driving tractors by the time I was 6.  I'm talking a Farmall "H" and International 460.  When I was 8, I used our Farmall 806 to plow a 65 acre field out from the house with a 5-bottom moldboard plow, by myself!  I remember I was driving the tractor standing up to see over the steering wheel. 

By the time I was 10, Dad could tell me what he wanted done and where, and I could go do it. 

About the only thing I hadn't done before I was a teenager was loose my virginity.   :whatever:

Me too....and it's a good thing I wasn't a Muslim or one of the cows might have gotten the virginity thing... :rotf: ...but like Rodney Dangerfield, I was alone when I lost it... :rotf:

Stated out like you but by age 6 was pulling a heavy bulldozer disc harrow with a TD-14 dozer...str8 drive and no power steering. Was mowing pasture and hay with a Cub and Farmall A by 8 and a dual wheel H Farmall with front loader by 10...did you, like me, learn to keep your thumbs outta the steering wheel the hard way? At age 10 Daddy started hiring me out to plow and mow pastures for the public with a Farmall MD and sidewinder rotary mower. I got most of the profit. Momma kept my money for me and bought clothes, school stuff etc. with it. Never got an allowance for what was required work on the farm. By age 16, I owned a Farmall MD, a TD-9 dozer and a couple of pieces of misc. equipment...I was doing great...getting rich, I was...but it seems like it has been down hill since then.... :rotf:

I wish I could do the same for my son now but seems every hobby farmer, backyard gardener has his own tractor these days.

I got to find something for my just turned 15 year old to do to get him started. Instill some of that greed, get ahead, profit motivation the DUmmies decry so much.     
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline diesel driver

  • Creepy Ass Cracker and Smart-Ass White Boy!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9130
  • Reputation: +609/-55
  • Enhancing My Carbon Footprint!
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 08:05:17 AM »
Me too....and it's a good thing I wasn't a Muslim or one of the cows might have gotten the virginity thing... :rotf: ...but like Rodney Dangerfield, I was alone when I lost it... :rotf:

Stated out like you but by age 6 was pulling a heavy bulldozer disc harrow with a TD-14 dozer...str8 drive and no power steering. Was mowing pasture and hay with a Cub and Farmall A by 8 and a dual wheel H Farmall with front loader by 10...did you, like me, learn to keep your thumbs outta the steering wheel the hard way? At age 10 Daddy started hiring me out to plow and mow pastures for the public with a Farmall MD and sidewinder rotary mower. I got most of the profit. Momma kept my money for me and bought clothes, school stuff etc. with it. Never got an allowance for what was required work on the farm. By age 16, I owned a Farmall MD, a TD-9 dozer and a couple of pieces of misc. equipment...I was doing great...getting rich, I was...but it seems like it has been down hill since then.... :rotf:

I wish I could do the same for my son now but seems every hobby farmer, backyard gardener has his own tractor these days.

I got to find something for my just turned 15 year old to do to get him started. Instill some of that greed, get ahead, profit motivation the DUmmies decry so much.      

Yes, I did!  I still get a funny feeling in my thumbs when I even sit on one of those tractors!

You had a diesel M?  I'm jealous!  Was it the one that started on gasoline?  A farmer down the road from me has 3 of them, still uses them on a daily basis.  He has a M, a M-TA, and a MD-TA.  My uncle had a M-TA, he used it for years with a mounted corn picker, later traded it for a Farmall 656.  

We had 2 TD-340's, one dozer, one loader, a UD-14 power unit that started on gas, ran on diesel.  (MASSIVE 6 cylinder engine, pistons were the size of 1pound coffee cans!) a 460 backhoe, a Farmall H, 806, 826, an International 664, B-414 (hardest tractor in the world to keep brakes on, harder still when it has a loader on it), and a 3388.  THAT tractor started out at 130HP, and I don't know how high I turned up the fuel on it, but it would totally outperform my brother's 4555 John Deere, and it was 155HP.  Both tractors were 4-WD, with duals on the rear, and ballasted to about 18,000 pounds.  My guess would put it in the 185-200 range.

We also had a 715 combine we did custom harvesting work with.  I could set that thing up from memory, and had it tuned (air, sieves, concaves, etc.) within 10 minutes after starting into a corn or small grain field.  I even set it up to do buckwheat one time.  Strange grain, look like little, black pyramids.

« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 08:09:09 AM by diesel driver »
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

Liberals are like Slinkys.  Basically useless, but they do bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs...
 
Global warming supporters believe that a few hundred million tons of CO2 has more control over our climate than a million mile in diameter, unshielded thermo-nuclear fusion reactor at the middle of the solar system.

"A dead enemy is a peaceful enemy.  Blessed be the peacemakers". - U.S. Marine Corp

You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out of office.

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 09:02:40 AM »
Yes, I did!  I still get a funny feeling in my thumbs when I even sit on one of those tractors!

You had a diesel M?  I'm jealous!  Was it the one that started on gasoline?  A farmer down the road from me has 3 of them, still uses them on a daily basis.  He has a M, a M-TA, and a MD-TA.  My uncle had a M-TA, he used it for years with a mounted corn picker, later traded it for a Farmall 656.  

We had 2 TD-340's, one dozer, one loader, a UD-14 power unit that started on gas, ran on diesel.  (MASSIVE 6 cylinder engine, pistons were the size of 1pound coffee cans!) a 460 backhoe, a Farmall H, 806, 826, an International 664, B-414 (hardest tractor in the world to keep brakes on, harder still when it has a loader on it), and a 3388.  THAT tractor started out at 130HP, and I don't know how high I turned up the fuel on it, but it would totally outperform my brother's 4555 John Deere, and it was 155HP.  Both tractors were 4-WD, with duals on the rear, and ballasted to about 18,000 pounds.  My guess would put it in the 185-200 range.

We also had a 715 combine we did custom harvesting work with.  I could set that thing up from memory, and had it tuned (air, sieves, concaves, etc.) within 10 minutes after starting into a corn or small grain field.  I even set it up to do buckwheat one time.  Strange grain, look like little, black pyramids.



If you had a gas start/diesel 6 cylinder power unit, that would have been a UD-16 or UD-18 unit. The UD-16 had the same pistons and sleeves as a TD-9, WD-9, ID-9, OD-9 etc....size of cooffee cans... probably a UD-18, same as TD-18 engine and a hell of a strong power unit...shoot, the UD-16 unit wasn't no slauch when it came to power for a sawmill or something.

NO BRAKES B-414..... Know exactly what you're talking about. We had the fore runner to that, a B-275. Hard as hell to steer, no brakes to help steer and to weak to pull a sick whore off the toilet. About all it ever did was pull a hay rake.

Yes we had several MD's over the years. My daddy had the first diesel tractor in the county. It was a 1947 Farmall MD....after that one, we usually just had diesels of that era on the farm...none of those larger later models you spoke of.

Combines... :rotf:...I only remember one. A pull type AC with about a foot cutter head and the old wood strips and canvas thing to carry the stems/seeds up into the combine and then it went into sacks. I was 7 or 8 when we were running it and I was supposed to be tying the sacks and shoving them off the back. I couldn't tie a good knot and about every third sack would open when it hit the ground. Daddy would pitch his fit and put me on the tractor. My legs weren't strong enough or long enough to work the clutch probably...and I couldn't steer the old MD for shit...so we'd make a couple of rounds that way and I'd get put back on the combine...we'd be switching back and forth all day...damn long days... :rotf:

Then there was the ALLIS-CHALMERS round hay baler...the small kind, 50/75 pound bales. No live power on the MD's so you had to stop, take it out of gear, let it wrap and then clutch again, put it gear, go a few feet if you were in good stuff and do it all over again....whew, what a pain.

That was the late 40's, early 50's....when daddy got in trouble with the KKK for paying his black workers to much. They usually worked for a set wage but certain times of the year (spring plowing and fall haying) they worked on commission. They would some weeks make 3 to 5 times what people in the cotton mills were making. They worked their ass off night and day to do it but they earned every dime of it so daddy paid them. The KLAN called a few times to threaten daddy. He told some KKK member the last time they called what he paid the black fellows (2 brothers). He told the guy that :-) if any of the white KKK members would do the same for less, "Be here Monday morning and you can have their jobs". He never got another call.

Those two black brothers were very much a part of my early life. They were the same age range as my father. They had been raised across the creek from my daddy's family. When my daddy, a teenager, bought his first tractor in the later 30's, a used F-20, they went to work for him. They were't well educated and niether was my dad (had to quit school in eighth grade). They worked hard and saved their money and by the late 50's they both lived in brick homes and drove nice cars/trucks and had moved on to better jobs. That was long before civil rights had done anything to change a blacks chances in life around here.

The first 15 years of my life, I probably spent more time with those two black brothers than I did with my daddy. Like a lot of white and black families in the south at that time, we had a very close relationship with them and their familes. They were like a part of our family. Daddy stopped doing public contract work in '55 and they had to get other jobs. He helped them land jobs that blacks couldn't get back then. Daddy stopped public work in '55 due to debt for equipment and a deep recession (like now). I never saw daddy cry but twice...make that 3 times. In 1955 we were about to loose everything and he had to sell a bunch of stuff to get out of debt...he cried...thirty years later, the younger of those 2 brothers died and he cried. A few years later mother died and he cried. 

Thanks diesel driver for bringing back fond old memories.

     
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 09:19:52 AM »
Damn, John, sir, you're good.

Awesome.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline Carl

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19839
  • Reputation: +1618/-100
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 11:21:15 AM »
I helped my dad on our farm all my life.  I was riding with him on tractors when I was 2 or 3, I was driving tractors by the time I was 6.  I'm talking a Farmall "H" and International 460.  When I was 8, I used our Farmall 806 to plow a 65 acre field out from the house with a 5-bottom moldboard plow, by myself!  I remember I was driving the tractor standing up to see over the steering wheel. 

By the time I was 10, Dad could tell me what he wanted done and where, and I could go do it. 

About the only thing I hadn't done before I was a teenager was loose my virginity.   :whatever:

We had John Deeres,all two cylinder models and the summers were spent picking hay off the field or mowing it away in the barn.
The pay...a penny a bale touched and was paid out at the end of summer by buying a savings bond.
Myself and my brother were both less then 10 at that time.
Now I have a fleet of  several 4020/4000/4010 John Deeres plus a 1066 IH and a 190XT Allis Chalmers.
Would have killed for any one of them back in the late 70s.

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2010, 11:42:38 AM »
We had John Deeres,all two cylinder models and the summers were spent picking hay off the field or mowing it away in the barn.
The pay...a penny a bale touched and was paid out at the end of summer by buying a savings bond.
Myself and my brother were both less then 10 at that time.
Now I have a fleet of  several 4020/4000/4010 John Deeres plus a 1066 IH and a 190XT Allis Chalmers.
Would have killed for any one of them back in the late 70s.

I was practically born and raised on red tractors/dozers but the 4020 has always had a spot in my heart even though I've never owned one. They're still around and being used everyday. Highly sort after and a good one brings more money now than what it sold for new.
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline Carl

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19839
  • Reputation: +1618/-100
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2010, 11:56:31 AM »
I was practically born and raised on red tractors/dozers but the 4020 has always had a spot in my heart even though I've never owned one. They're still around and being used everyday. Highly sort after and a good one brings more money now than what it sold for new.

I sell parts for the red ones but my uncle was a JD dealer from back in the 30s so have all basis covered. :cheersmate:

Offline debk

  • Topic Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12473
  • Reputation: +467/-58
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2010, 01:03:34 PM »
Johnny...don't know if your Daddy is still alive or not, but he sounds like he is/was a wonderful man and a great example for his son and family.

You painted such a good picture of your Daddy with your words. I could see him with you and the brothers, and the love and respect you have for him. Brought tears to my eyes.

YOU are a very lucky man, and YOUR children are very lucky to have you for a father.  :heart:

Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.

"My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what I start. So far I've finished two bags of M&M's and a chocolate cake. I feel better already." – Dave Barry

A balanced diet is chocolate in both hands.

Offline AprilRazz

  • I love my...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2705
  • Reputation: +202/-16
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2010, 02:46:39 PM »
I was mucking and caring for 10-15 horses daily from the age of 9. Galloping 2 year olds at the farm from age 12 till I moved on to the track at 16. Would ride 10 horses in the morning then go to school. Would ride 15-20 horses on weekends with 2 days every other week off.
Wouldn't mind going back to that life but while the mind is willing the body isn't. :(
Proud Navy Wife and Veteran

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." Suzanna Hupp


racist – A statement of surrender during an argument. When two people or disputants are engaged in an acrimonious debate, the side that first says “Racist!” has conceded defeat. Synonymous with saying “Resign” during a chess game, or “Uncle” during a schoolyard fight. Ori

Offline diesel driver

  • Creepy Ass Cracker and Smart-Ass White Boy!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9130
  • Reputation: +609/-55
  • Enhancing My Carbon Footprint!
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2010, 06:18:30 PM »

...Combines... ...I only remember one. A pull type AC with about a foot cutter head and the old wood strips and canvas thing to carry the stems/seeds up into the combine and then it went into sacks. I was 7 or 8 when we were running it and I was supposed to be tying the sacks and shoving them off the back. I couldn't tie a good knot and about every third sack would open when it hit the ground. Daddy would pitch his fit and put me on the tractor. My legs weren't strong enough or long enough to work the clutch probably...and I couldn't steer the old MD for shit...so we'd make a couple of rounds that way and I'd get put back on the combine...we'd be switching back and forth all day...damn long days...
     

I believe it was a UD-16.  I remember it had 2 mufflers on it, and all we had to run it to pull a blower was about 2 notches above idle.  Hell, that thing wouldn't even bog, it would just grunt and keep going.  My neighbor has a sawmill he runs with a UD-9 4-cylinder.  He sometimes fires that thing up on Saturdays and saws some lumber for people.

I rode my uncle's IH combine with my dad.  I was about your age, but this was back in the mid 1960's, so I'm a tad younger than you.  I would put the sacks on the diverter, change sacks, and change the diverter when one sack got full.  Dad would tie the sacks, put them on the table, and dump them in the field.  We would go back later with that @$#* B-414 and a truck to pick them up.  That tractor caused me to break Dad's ankle, when I couldn't get it stopped (remember the nice brakes), bumped the back of the truck, and a sack of wheat slid off the tractor bucket and onto Dad's leg. 

Ah, yes, that combine.  I sat on the forward part of the bench, right over and to the left of the feeder table.  I don't care what direction you were traveling in any field, the breeze was ALWAYS blowing from the feeder straight into your face, chafe, dust and all!  Sounds very similar to your AC, 6+foot wide conveyor belt with wood slates about every 2 feel, carrying the grain from the reel to the cylinder.  I would welcome the chance to bale the straw behind the combine than ride on it!  Funny you should mention a B-275.  I believe that was what I used to bale with, mainly because I could push the clutch ALL the way down to disengage the PTO, I was too light to do that on the B-414.

The only thing the extra letters for the M meant was how they were equipped.  You had your standard gas M with the 5 speed transmission, the M-TA, which had a Torque Amplifier, basically a "high-low" for each gear, the MD or diesel M, and the MD-TA, diesel M with a Torque Amplifier.

Quote

Thanks diesel driver for bringing back fond old memories.


Thank you for doing the same for me.  I've spent too many years away from the farm and those wonderful memories still in me.   :-)
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

Liberals are like Slinkys.  Basically useless, but they do bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs...
 
Global warming supporters believe that a few hundred million tons of CO2 has more control over our climate than a million mile in diameter, unshielded thermo-nuclear fusion reactor at the middle of the solar system.

"A dead enemy is a peaceful enemy.  Blessed be the peacemakers". - U.S. Marine Corp

You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out of office.

Offline Allentownjake

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 700
  • Reputation: +18/-144
  • I'm a mole for OET
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 07:18:05 PM »
I delivered papers from 12-16 than I worked at Dorney Park from 16 till 22.  I think kicking 12 year olds out of bed at 5am in the morning is a good welcome to manhood.

I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." --Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816.

Offline JohnnyReb

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32063
  • Reputation: +1998/-134
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2010, 08:17:11 PM »
Diesel Driver, I know what TA means. I plowed cotton all summer one summer with a 340 TA with a slipping clutch. The farmer daddy loaned me out to was just trying to get by until time to lay the cotton by (stop plowing because it would knock the blooms off.). The 340 was a tricycle with a 4 row rig. Worked pretty good in the clay but was a b*tch in sand land. If you tried to turn sharp in the sand without heavy use of the brakes then the front wheels would go side ways and dig in knee deep. Then you'd have to dig them out with a shovel. If you used the brakes to much, then they would run hot and not work. IH had some real problems in those years with brakes. The old John Deere 2 cylinder pop-pops worked best in sand land.

I was down to the last few rows when the clutch went out in the 340. The farmer didn't know what he was going to do with the tractor sitting in the middle of his field. Me and a black boy dropped the hydraulic pump, depressed the clutch and stuffed ice cream spoons in it. I cranked it up in high gear TA and drove it 15 miles to the dealer without using the clutch. I called the farmer to come get me.... :rotf: and He wanted to know, "What the hell you doing up there?" I said, "You wanted the tractor to go to the dealer didn't you. Well it's here. Come get me."  The mechanics were dying laughing at all the wooden spoons that fell out of the clutch when he got there.

I never plowed cotton again and I don't want to do it again.

Diedel driver, do you ever smell fresh plowed dirt in the spring time and get sort of a high?
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin

Offline Carl

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19839
  • Reputation: +1618/-100
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2010, 08:31:31 PM »
Diesel Driver, I know what TA means. I plowed cotton all summer one summer with a 340 TA with a slipping clutch. The farmer daddy loaned me out to was just trying to get by until time to lay the cotton by (stop plowing because it would knock the blooms off.). The 340 was a tricycle with a 4 row rig. Worked pretty good in the clay but was a b*tch in sand land. If you tried to turn sharp in the sand without heavy use of the brakes then the front wheels would go side ways and dig in knee deep. Then you'd have to dig them out with a shovel. If you used the brakes to much, then they would run hot and not work. IH had some real problems in those years with brakes. The old John Deere 2 cylinder pop-pops worked best in sand land.

I was down to the last few rows when the clutch went out in the 340. The farmer didn't know what he was going to do with the tractor sitting in the middle of his field. Me and a black boy dropped the hydraulic pump, depressed the clutch and stuffed ice cream spoons in it. I cranked it up in high gear TA and drove it 15 miles to the dealer without using the clutch. I called the farmer to come get me.... :rotf: and He wanted to know, "What the hell you doing up there?" I said, "You wanted the tractor to go to the dealer didn't you. Well it's here. Come get me."  The mechanics were dying laughing at all the wooden spoons that fell out of the clutch when he got there.

I never plowed cotton again and I don't want to do it again.

Diedel driver, do you ever smell fresh plowed dirt in the spring time and get sort of a high?

I do...this was plowing the garden last April with one of the 4020s.



I worked for a neighboring farmer for a bit that had a Farmall "M" with an M&W live pto kit on it.
It was a clutch set installed on the left brake bull pinion shaft where if you pulled the lever back it would break power to that wheel and would basically let that side freewheel through the differential.
Allis used the same principle in their tractors of that era.

Offline I_B_Perky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7532
  • Reputation: +721/-329
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2010, 10:16:46 PM »
Primitives work?  :fuelfire: :


News to me.  :-)
Living in the Dummies minds rent free since 2009!

Montani Semper Liberi

Offline RobJohnson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8876
  • Reputation: +333/-109
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2010, 12:14:51 AM »
I loved the discussion about the tractors.

Growing up near the John Deere World Headquarters in Moline, IL ag equipment was a big part of my family's life. The trucking company that my father worked for used to haul only for John Deere. Seen a lot of friends and family lose jobs when IH closed, then Case, CAT and a few John Deere plants closed. Had other friends that would work seven days a week and make over 100k a year making tractors. It was hard hot work but it provided for the family.

I never worked for any of the tractor companies directly but I did work for McLaughlin Body that made the tractor cabs and when I was laid off from there I preped and painted corn planter frames for Case-IH at another jobber's shop.


Offline PatriotGame

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4285
  • Reputation: +227/-96
  • Look at my BIG feet! Woof!
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2010, 01:02:13 AM »
Me? Third grade, eight years-old, living in Idaho Falls, ID. During the winter, after the snowfalls on the weekend, I would set out at about 9 AM with an old MANUAL snow shovel in hand and go door to door throughout the neighborhood selling my services. 25 cents to shovel the driveway and 10 cents for the sidewalk. I would work until dark, around 5 PM. On a good Saturday I would make 3-4 dollars and felt rich!

In the summer, the first Monday after school was out, I would scour the real estate ads in the Yellow Pages, calling as many as I could asking if they had vacant homes that needed the lawns watered and mowed. I would ride my bike 10's of miles all over town watering several lawns - turn the water on early in the morning, go back two hours later to move the sprinkler, (no UGS back then) then repeat until the entire lawn was watered - usually around 5 PM. On Saturday mom would help my load the Cooper Clipper rotary lawn mower in the trunk of our `62 Chevy Bel-Air and drive me to the houses where I mowed those lawns. Three bucks a week to mow, two bucks a week to water. I usually had 4-5 houses in play throughout the summer making 25-30 bucks a week and I was freaking rich! Spent ALL of it on Estes model rockets and Cox gas powered model air planes.
           ►☼Liberals Are THE Root of ALL Evil!☼◄

Offline diesel driver

  • Creepy Ass Cracker and Smart-Ass White Boy!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9130
  • Reputation: +609/-55
  • Enhancing My Carbon Footprint!
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2010, 01:37:57 AM »
Diesel Driver, I know what TA means. I plowed cotton all summer one summer with a 340 TA with a slipping clutch. The farmer daddy loaned me out to was just trying to get by until time to lay the cotton by (stop plowing because it would knock the blooms off.). The 340 was a tricycle with a 4 row rig. Worked pretty good in the clay but was a b*tch in sand land. If you tried to turn sharp in the sand without heavy use of the brakes then the front wheels would go side ways and dig in knee deep. Then you'd have to dig them out with a shovel. If you used the brakes to much, then they would run hot and not work. IH had some real problems in those years with brakes. The old John Deere 2 cylinder pop-pops worked best in sand land.

I was down to the last few rows when the clutch went out in the 340. The farmer didn't know what he was going to do with the tractor sitting in the middle of his field. Me and a black boy dropped the hydraulic pump, depressed the clutch and stuffed ice cream spoons in it. I cranked it up in high gear TA and drove it 15 miles to the dealer without using the clutch. I called the farmer to come get me.... :rotf: and He wanted to know, "What the hell you doing up there?" I said, "You wanted the tractor to go to the dealer didn't you. Well it's here. Come get me."  The mechanics were dying laughing at all the wooden spoons that fell out of the clutch when he got there.

I never plowed cotton again and I don't want to do it again.

Diedel driver, do you ever smell fresh plowed dirt in the spring time and get sort of a high?

LOL I figured you did know what the TA meant, I wasn't being a smart ass about it.  We had 2 TD-340 dozers, and the brakes were constantly needing attention.  Replacement was a pain, because you had to remove the tracks AND final drives.  460's weren't much better, but the hydraulic ones on the 806 were GREAT.

Yes, the smell of fresh plowed dirt, just moved hay, and the grey-white smoke of a diesel on a cold startup all bring back childhood memories of watching those tractors blowing smoke rings out of the mufflers while they were warming up. 

I guess you and me share a common theme.  You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy.
Murphy's 3rd Law:  "You can't make anything 'idiot DUmmie proof'.  The world will just create a better idiot DUmmie."

Liberals are like Slinkys.  Basically useless, but they do bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs...
 
Global warming supporters believe that a few hundred million tons of CO2 has more control over our climate than a million mile in diameter, unshielded thermo-nuclear fusion reactor at the middle of the solar system.

"A dead enemy is a peaceful enemy.  Blessed be the peacemakers". - U.S. Marine Corp

You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out of office.

Offline delilahmused

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7384
  • Reputation: +1367/-80
  • Devil Mom
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2010, 12:13:00 PM »
Picking strawberries when I was 11 or 12. Kind of a right of passage for kids around here. Of course now with minimum wage laws it's cheaper to hire illegals than to help an American child learn the value of hard work.

Cindie
"If God built me a ladder to heaven, I would climb it and elbow drop the world."
Mick Foley

"I am a very good shot. I have hunted for every kind of animal. But I would never kill an animal during mating season."
Hedy Lamarr

"I'm just like any modern woman trying to have it all. Loving husband, a family. It's just, I wish I had more time to seek out the dark forces and join their hellish crusade."
Morticia Addams

Offline debk

  • Topic Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12473
  • Reputation: +467/-58
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2010, 01:11:43 PM »
Babysitting for the next door neighbor's baby when I was about 10.5. She'd put the baby down and have me come over as long as my mother was next door. As I got a bit older, I also stayed with the 4 kids across the street. Got 50 cents an hour and was thrilled.

First real paying job, a week after I turned 16...going to work in a huge grocery store in Rockford IL....owned by Sicilians. Made $1.60 an hour. Started out checking groceries, to working in the deli/bakery ( :drool: ) to running the customer service desk at night and on Saturdays. Stayed there for a little over year and a half, until I went off to college. I sooooo loved that job!!
Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.

"My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what I start. So far I've finished two bags of M&M's and a chocolate cake. I feel better already." – Dave Barry

A balanced diet is chocolate in both hands.

Offline RobJohnson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8876
  • Reputation: +333/-109
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2010, 01:24:49 PM »

First real paying job, a week after I turned 16...going to work in a huge grocery store in Rockford IL....

Rockford is only about an hour from where I lived in Illinois.

Offline debk

  • Topic Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12473
  • Reputation: +467/-58
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2010, 01:40:00 PM »
Rockford is only about an hour from where I lived in Illinois.

The grocery store is still there, I know under different ownership, and I'm not sure if the name is the same (it was The Highlander) . The Castrogiovanni's owned it, and 2 smaller ones. The father started the smallest store, the two sons built the one I worked in. One of the son's son, was my age, I think he owns an Italian restaurant in Rockford now, from what I have been able to find out on line.
Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.

"My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what I start. So far I've finished two bags of M&M's and a chocolate cake. I feel better already." – Dave Barry

A balanced diet is chocolate in both hands.

Offline IassaFTots

  • In WTF-istan, I am considered a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13972
  • Reputation: +770/-274
  • Oh well, I wasn't using my civil liberties anyway.
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2010, 01:54:33 PM »
I started babysitting around 11-12.  When I moved to Texas, from Florida, I had my Mom and Stepdad make some inquiries as to what the going rate was for sitters.  I advertised 25 cents less per hour and stole the business.   :-)  I offered 1.25, instead of 1.50 an hour.  The best was working for the Carbones, and taking care of their sons, Jimmy and Vinnie.  I was allowed to eat ANYTHING in the fridge.  Homemade pasta, canolis, you name it!
R.I.P. LC and Crockspot.  Miss you guys.

The infinite is possible at zombocom.  www.zombo.com

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." ~ Martin Luther King
 
“Political Correctness is about turning a blind eye to painful reality because your comfortable feelings are more important to you than saving lives and providing quality of life to people who work their ass off to be productive and are a benefit to this great American Dream"  ~Ted Nugent

Offline debk

  • Topic Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12473
  • Reputation: +467/-58
Re: primitives discuss their first job
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2010, 02:00:28 PM »
I started babysitting around 11-12.  When I moved to Texas, from Florida, I had my Mom and Stepdad make some inquiries as to what the going rate was for sitters.  I advertised 25 cents less per hour and stole the business.   :-)  I offered 1.25, instead of 1.50 an hour.  The best was working for the Carbones, and taking care of their sons, Jimmy and Vinnie.  I was allowed to eat ANYTHING in the fridge.  Homemade pasta, canolis, you name it!


For homemade cannoli's... I would have worked for even less!  I love them!!!:drool:
Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.

"My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what I start. So far I've finished two bags of M&M's and a chocolate cake. I feel better already." – Dave Barry

A balanced diet is chocolate in both hands.