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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2010, 01:34:55 AM »
Hmmmm....

"a planned mother-daughter trip"


"invited by the King and Queen of Spain, 18 months ago"


"consoling a friend who lost her father"



the next excuse coming from the White House.....

Sasha really wanted to see Mickey Mouse, and he was vacationing in Spain"....

No kidding!  How lame the excuses.  Michelle was PO'd about something and got out town for a few days.
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2010, 12:24:54 AM »
Is it just me or has the Fetid Harlequin been lashing out more blindly, bitterly and at random the past few weeks? It smacks of desperation born of loss - seeing all one's hopes and dreams of liberal utopia disintegrating like wisps of smoke.

In fact, the whole tone of DU has been that way. They've been reduced to a sporadic and weak raising of their weary heads and whimpering out, "Racist!" now and then like the last gasps of a dying man. Just a bunch of random sniping and grasping at straws is all that's left. Even the bouncies are few and far between and no one in them is being converted. They're standing smack in the middle of the tracks as the great engine of November is bearing down on them, and they're scared shitless with no one to turn to.

The image that keeps coming to mind is the quintessential Old Rummy At The Bar. Same seat every night, away from everyone else. Staring down dejectedly at his drink, ruminating over good times past. Silent and unmoving except for an occasional drunken wobble and to raise his glass to his lips. Every now and then he'll catch a word or snatch of conversation from the revellers around him that sparks a thought, and he'll lift his head long enough to rant out a rambling sentence or two about how great things used to be for him or how the world is going to hell in a handbasket. Then after a moment of surprised silence from the other patrons he again hangs his head and he is once more ignored as the conversations around him start anew.

It is thus with the DUmmies. The heady days with a clearly defined enemy are behind them, the war protestors have returned to their basements, their demigods in government have betrayed them, DU has been decimated by a dozen purges and is now overrun by DLCers and moles, and Cindy Sheehan has become the answer to a trivia question. There is only one way out of this hell, DUmmies.

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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2010, 02:22:42 AM »
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Or......there could be another explanation...

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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2010, 06:26:57 AM »
Hmmmm....

"a planned mother-daughter trip"


"invited by the King and Queen of Spain, 18 months ago"


"consoling a friend who lost her father"



the next excuse coming from the White House.....

Sasha really wanted to see Mickey Mouse, and he was vacationing in Spain"....

I guess we forgive all that Conquistador stuff in the Western Hemisphere along with the French influence on places like Haiti and NO.  Only those WASPS (read mostly English or Nothern Euro) you got to worry about.

How did the Mexicans et al.become Hispanic??   Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2010, 06:46:58 AM »
I guess we forgive all that Conquistador stuff in the Western Hemisphere along with the French influence on places like Haiti and NO.  Only those WASPS (read mostly English or Nothern Euro) you got to worry about.

How did the Mexicans et al.become Hispanic??   Inquiring minds want to know.

Well, now I know the cause of all their problems....or slovenliness.
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2010, 06:55:56 AM »
Well, now I know the cause of all their problems....or slovenliness.

Ever read about how the Spaniards drove their dinner on the hoof which wiped out deer that sustained the native Americans?

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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2010, 07:02:13 AM »
I was just wondering, do we have a Spanish Ebonics interpreter at the Whitehouse?
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #57 on: August 12, 2010, 07:42:43 AM »
Eric Holder?


He'd be the closest I could think of.

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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #58 on: August 12, 2010, 11:19:17 AM »
I was just wondering, do we have a Spanish Ebonics interpreter at the Whitehouse?

Ever hear about Globlish? {sp} I thought the LeftCoast had embraced Spanglish? :cheersmate: 
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #59 on: August 12, 2010, 12:31:31 PM »
How did the Mexicans et al.become Hispanic??   Inquiring minds want to know.


I just had this explained to me recently. The woman doing the explaining was born in America, but her parents weren't, though they became American citizens, she is around my age. Can't remember which country her parents came to the US from, but she was specific in not being referred to as a Latina, which apparently is an insult...at least to her.

Hispanics are those who are decended from Spain(ish) ancestry.

Latinos are from Latin America, and Mexicans are lumped into this group.

Cubans are in a class all of their own...they are Cuban or Cubano/Cubana. (I had Spanish profs in college that escaped Castro and Cuba, those that did, apparently will always be "Cuban".)

Near as I can figure out, if the family went to the Caribbean from Spain...that makes one a Hispanic. If they went on over to Mexico, they are then Mexican or Latino.

I'm still confused.
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2010, 01:21:32 PM »

I just had this explained to me recently. The woman doing the explaining was born in America, but her parents weren't, though they became American citizens, she is around my age. Can't remember which country her parents came to the US from, but she was specific in not being referred to as a Latina, which apparently is an insult...at least to her.

Hispanics are those who are decended from Spain(ish) ancestry.

Latinos are from Latin America, and Mexicans are lumped into this group.

Cubans are in a class all of their own...they are Cuban or Cubano/Cubana. (I had Spanish profs in college that escaped Castro and Cuba, those that did, apparently will always be "Cuban".)

Near as I can figure out, if the family went to the Caribbean from Spain...that makes one a Hispanic. If they went on over to Mexico, they are then Mexican or Latino.

I'm still confused.

Latin?  I thought that was an early Roman language.  Not to be confused, of course, with Italian which is spoken in Italy where in is located Rome.  Um, how did it become Latin America, did the Italians invade it??  Yikes what a bag of worms.    :mental:

I noted just a tad of racism in Puerto Rico, those with strong Castilian heritage were generally lighter than those with more native influence.
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2010, 01:47:27 PM »

I just had this explained to me recently. The woman doing the explaining was born in America, but her parents weren't, though they became American citizens, she is around my age. Can't remember which country her parents came to the US from, but she was specific in not being referred to as a Latina, which apparently is an insult...at least to her.

Hispanics are those who are descended from Spain(ish) ancestry.

Latinos are from Latin America, and Mexicans are lumped into this group.

Cubans are in a class all of their own...they are Cuban or Cubano/Cubana. (I had Spanish profs in college that escaped Castro and Cuba, those that did, apparently will always be "Cuban".)

Near as I can figure out, if the family went to the Caribbean from Spain...that makes one a Hispanic. If they went on over to Mexico, they are then Mexican or Latino.

I'm still confused.

This is how it was  explained to me by my Cuban friend, who fled the island in 1980.......

Spaniards are Caucasians, and most of them (unless they have some Moor in their ancestry) are as white as white Americans, brown hair, and predominantly green eyes.  Cubans are also Spaniards, as most of them are direct descendants of immigrant families from Spain when Cuba was a Spanish colony.  Cubans also speak castillian Spanish, which is essentially the same language spoken in Spain with minor colloquial variations.

Mexicans and Central Americans are a mixture of Spanish and local Indians that were present when the conquistadors conquered the area, and are ALL of mixed race.  Spaniards and Cubans consider them Latino, and they are generally looked down upon (by those of direct Spanish descent) as "mongrels".  The Spanish spoken in Mexico and Central America is a blend of castillian Spanish and local indigenous languages, and some of it is not even comprehensible to a castillian Spanish speaker.

There is a third category, which are peoples that are of Spanish descent, mixed with Caribbean blacks and indigenous Island people, that were brought to the islands during slave times.....some of these also migrated to Central America, Puerto Rico, and what is now the Dominican Republic, and are sometimes referred to as "mephista", or other designations, but are also lumped in with Latinos.

According to him, the phrase "hispanic" is essentially a made-up, "politically correct" term that was invented here in the US, and has no meaning to people of Spanish descent, where ever they might come from.

His explanation, not mine, but at least historically, it tends to make sense........

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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2010, 01:53:31 PM »
Latin?  I thought that was an early Roman language.  Not to be confused, of course, with Italian which is spoken in Italy where in is located Rome.  Um, how did it become Latin America, did the Italians invade it??  Yikes what a bag of worms.    :mental:

I noted just a tad of racism in Puerto Rico, those with strong Castilian heritage were generally lighter than those with more native influence.

The "Castilian" are the Spainards....and do not have "Mestizo" or Indian (like Aztec, Mayan, Incan) blood mixed in with the original Spanish.

French, Spanish and Italian are considered the "Romance Languages", based in Latin. I took 3 years of French in HS and 2 of Spanish in college. I have been to Italy 2x's and could sort of understand what was being said to me, especially by the end of my trips, if they talked slowly. In all three, the sentence structures are quite similar and nouns are either feminine or masculine.

(see, occasionally those Liberal Arts degrees are useful.... :lmao:)


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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2010, 02:13:04 PM »
The "Castilian" are the Spainards....and do not have "Mestizo" or Indian (like Aztec, Mayan, Incan) blood mixed in with the original Spanish.

French, Spanish and Italian are considered the "Romance Languages", based in Latin. I took 3 years of French in HS and 2 of Spanish in college. I have been to Italy 2x's and could sort of understand what was being said to me, especially by the end of my trips, if they talked slowly. In all three, the sentence structures are quite similar and nouns are either feminine or masculine.

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Heh, I went to Spain twice, and I could sort of understand what was being said to me, and I could sort of communicate back.  But that was because I was an Asst Mgr in a Pizza Place in Texas for several years.   :rotf:
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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2010, 02:15:14 PM »

Heh, I went to Spain twice, and I could sort of understand what was being said to me, and I could sort of communicate back.  But that was because I was an Asst Mgr in a Pizza Place in Texas for several years.   :rotf:

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Re: There's quite a bit of criticism of Mrs. Obama's trip to Spain.
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2010, 07:46:34 PM »
This is how it was  explained to me by my Cuban friend, who fled the island in 1980.......

Spaniards are Caucasians, and most of them (unless they have some Moor in their ancestry) are as white as white Americans, brown hair, and predominantly green eyes.  Cubans are also Spaniards, as most of them are direct descendants of immigrant families from Spain when Cuba was a Spanish colony.  Cubans also speak castillian Spanish, which is essentially the same language spoken in Spain with minor colloquial variations.

Mexicans and Central Americans are a mixture of Spanish and local Indians that were present when the conquistadors conquered the area, and are ALL of mixed race.  Spaniards and Cubans consider them Latino, and they are generally looked down upon (by those of direct Spanish descent) as "mongrels".  The Spanish spoken in Mexico and Central America is a blend of castillian Spanish and local indigenous languages, and some of it is not even comprehensible to a castillian Spanish speaker.

There is a third category, which are peoples that are of Spanish descent, mixed with Caribbean blacks and indigenous Island people, that were brought to the islands during slave times.....some of these also migrated to Central America, Puerto Rico, and what is now the Dominican Republic, and are sometimes referred to as "mephista", or other designations, but are also lumped in with Latinos.

According to him, the phrase "hispanic" is essentially a made-up, "politically correct" term that was invented here in the US, and has no meaning to people of Spanish descent, where ever they might come from.

His explanation, not mine, but at least historically, it tends to make sense........

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The word "hispanic" appeared during the Carter administration.