For the record, This is what amazes me about the power of FAUX news

[Carl]

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DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 09:51 PM
Original message
For the record, This is what amazes me about the power of FAUX news   
      

Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 09:58 PM by DainBramaged
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,220,000 viewers
CNN – 457,000 viewers
MSNBC – 441,000 viewers
CNBC – 173,000 viewers
HLN – 277,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,356,000 viewers
CNN – 687,000 viewers
MSNBC –841,000 viewers
CNBC – 195,000 viewers
HLN – 527,000 viewers

25-54 Total Day
FNC –344,000 viewers

CNN –144,000 viewers
MSNBC –143,000 viewers
CNBC – a scratch w/53,000 viewers
HLN – 105,000 viewers

25-54 Prime Time
FNC – 622,000 viewers

CNN – 195,000 viewers
MSNBC –262,000 viewers
CNBC – 97,000 viewers
HLN – 138,000 viewers

35-64 Total Day
FNC – 589,000 viewers
CNN – 206,000 viewers
MSNBC – 226,000 viewers
CNBC – 89,000 viewers
HLN – 141,000 viewers

35-64 Prime Time
FNC –1,116,000 viewers
CNN – 265,000 viewers
MSNBC –448,000 viewers
CNBC – 88,000 viewers
HLN –225,000 viewers

Morning programs (6:00AM-9:00AM) P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
FOX & Friends- 997,000 viewers (305,000) (549,000)
American Morning- 348,000 viewers (156,000) (188,000)
Morning Joe- 368,000 viewers (121,000) (170,000)
Squawk Box- 139,000 viewers (54,000) (100,000)
Morning Express w/ Meade- 265,000 viewers (112,000) (160,000)

5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,442,000 viewers (611,000) (1,136,000)
Situation Room—680,000 viewers (159,000) (239,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 580,000 viewers (165,000) (283,000)
Fast Money– 186,000 viewers (a scratch w/39,000) (101,000)
Showbiz Tonight — 246,000 viewers (67,000) (110,000)

6PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Special Report w/ Bret Baier – 1,997,000 viewers (422,000) (794,000)
Situation Room—560,000 viewers (158,000) (221,000)
Ed Show —692,000 viewers (196,000) (352,000)
Mad Money —148,000 viewers (a scratch w/44,000) (86,000)
Prime News – 285,000 viewers (123,000) (167,000)

7PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The Fox Report w/ Shep – 1,515,000 viewers (354,000) (660,000)
John King USA – 533,000 viewers (147,000) (207,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 619,000 viewers (175,000) (342,000)
Kudlow Report– 153,000 viewers (a scratch w/31,000) (74,000)
Issues – 445,000 viewers (168,000) (257,000)

8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor– 3,082,000 viewers (757,000) (1,407,000)
Campbell Brown – 562,000 viewers (142,000) (200,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 951,000 viewers (276,000) (516,000)
New Age of Wal-Mart– 149,000 viewers (80,000) (a scratch w/50,000)
Nancy Grace – 621,000 viewers (153,000) (273,000)

9 PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity– 2,099,000 viewers (579,000) (1,020,000)
Larry King Live —714,000 viewers (190,000) (236,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —976,000 viewers (245,000) (492,000)
BP: In Deep Water – 188,000 viewers (81,000) (93,000)
Joy Behar – 620,000 viewers (136,000) (210,000)

10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On the Record w/ Greta—1,884,000 viewers (529,000) (918,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 — 783,000 viewers (255,000) (358,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 595,000 viewers (265,000) (333,000)
American Greed – 247,000 viewers (131,000) (121,000)
Nancy Grace –377,000 viewers (136,000) (211,000)

11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor– 1,683,000 viewers (656,000) (970,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 – 466,000 viewers (187,000) (278,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —574,000 viewers (222,000) (343,000)
Mad Money – a scratch w/83,000 viewers (60,000) (a scratch w/47,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 390,000 viewers (135,000) (195,000)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/22/cable-news-ratings...


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femmocrat  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 09:55 PM
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1. I don't remember where I heard this, but....
   Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 09:55 PM by femmocrat
they count the captive viewers in airports, restaurants, etc. where Faux is piped in. And I think Faux pays those venues to broadcast its sh*t, or provides the monitors or something.

That's my rationalization and I'm sticking with it! LOL

havocmom  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Heard that FOX pays some locations, pays for the cable in some, buys TVs for some
   Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 10:01 PM by havocmom
with the stipulation that the tuner be set to FOX, so yeah the numbers are grossly inflated.

Edited to add: And if someone would tell the WH about the arrangement FOX has with so many businesses, perhaps people in the administration would stop fearing FOX and have a more realistic view of FOX impact in the general population. There is a reason someone invented and sold a remote device that will shut FOX off on TVs. Most people are sick of listening to it, and have been for several years. Please let the Sec of Ag know.

You are talking about a thread that was posted here where someone wanted to do that.
It wasn`t specific to Fox but any TV they encountered.
You have just shown how the DUmp believes any and all urban myths.

pstokely  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. The McDonalds around here always have a TV tuned to Faux
   Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 10:14 PM by pstokely
Faux fans often tune TVs in public places like waiting rooms to Faux and leave it there after they leave, I usually tune the TV to something else it's on Faux if no one else is watching
   

havocmom  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Had the car into the dealer for oil change, they tried to sell us new car
   Told them I won't buy anything again from any place that makes me suffer through FOX news.

Next oil change.... no FOX. I am thinking I am not the only person who complained.

Let businesses know: No FOX or NO SALE! Sometimes, weary employees will tell you why the tv is always on FOX. Interesting to hear about the arrangements FOX makes to get 'viewers'.

Sure you did. 

Janice325  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Also, I believe more cable companies carry Fox with their basic
   package, while not necessarily carrying MSNBC. At least, I think I seem to remember reading that somewhere way back when.....

I think you're correct, femmocrat, about Faux being piped in where they have captive viewers.

No idiot,it is called creating an attractive marketing package to enhance sales.
A business thing you useless leeches will never grasp.

AnArmyVeteran  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. I've been successful in having Faux turned off in businesses   
   If I go anywhere and Faux is on their televisions I complain and say I will never return to their business again if they leave Faux on. I went by a bank in a mall and they had Faux on but I complained and they took it off and put it on a sports channel. Whenever I go by that bank they never have Faux on so my complaint worked.

I urge everyone to complain if they see Faux anywhere. No one should be subjected to the hate, racism, fear, lies and rage Faux spews out 24 hours a day. It's the same thing as telling a restaurant to put their garbage out back in the dumpster instead of in their dining area.

I also write commentary on receipts that I turn in so a business's management gets to read them.

Sure you have poser.
Bet you get treated like a lunatic a lot too.

pstokely  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. If they don't have Faux on, a Faux fan will demad then turn to Faux

I can`t say I know anyone or imagine someone that is conservative having a hissy about what is or isn`t on a TV in those situations.

AnArmyVeteran  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. But they will definitely lose the business of the great majority of NON-faux people

Given that you are all broke,cheap and miserable to people they probably wouldn`t care.

mmonk  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 10:07 PM
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6. Fox is a menace to Democracy (and a threat).

Who is the fascist in the room?


I laugh at your impotence.

[NHSparky]

Maybe because most of America doesn't buy the liberal bullshit line anymore, ya think?

[Ballygrl]

DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 09:51 PM
Original message
For the record, This is what amazes me about the power of FAUX news

 

For the record, this is what amazes me about Fox News.

How 1 station can send the left into such insane ramblings. You have CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NPR, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, yet you obsess about 1 station, a station that when you actually look at it shows both points of view, yet your extreme ideology doesn't allow you to see both sides.

So continue to obsess please, because the more you do the funnier the meltdowns are.

[TheSarge]

 

For the record, this is what amazes me about Fox News.

How 1 station can send the left into such insane ramblings. You have CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NPR, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, yet you obsess about 1 station, a station that when you actually look at it shows both points of view, yet your extreme ideology doesn't allow you to see both sides.

So continue to obsess please, because the more you do the funnier the meltdowns are.

Anything that goes against their hive mentality and contradicts the echo chamber in which they live sends the Little Goons into insane ramblings and tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.

[Ballygrl]

Anything that goes against their hive mentality and contradicts the echo chamber in which they live sends the Little Goons into insane ramblings and tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.

They really think that only 1 point of view should be presented, theirs!

[TheSarge]

They really think that only 1 point of view should be presented, theirs!

Yup and anyone expressing a dissenting view from their highly enlightened "thinking" is to be shunned ridiculed and silenced...violently if necessary.

Yet with a straight face and in all seriousness they will in the next breath tell you how tolerant and open minded they are.

[BlueStateSaint]

This DUmor really makes me laugh:

AnArmyVeteran  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. But they will definitely lose the business of the great majority of NON-faux people

It's as if he never read the numbers in the OP!

[Randy]

DUmors never let things like facts ever affect their warped opinion, or the spewing of it.

[diesel driver]

2 years ago, I worked as an overnight cashier at the local Walmart.  The isle they kept open at night was the cigarette isle, right across from the bank, which KEPT their D*#@ED TV on CNN!  The only time it wasn't on CNN was if there was a Saturday night NASCAR race.  I got so tired of seeing Nancy Grace's face, I haven't watched CNN since!

Now, when I have to make a midnight run to Walmart, it's either on Fox News, or ESPN....

[Airwolf]

The only reason the monkeys over at DU are amazed at anything is because they have no concept of anything outside of their little shelter over there and whoa to any that deviate from their idea of normal.

[thundley4]

When we were going out regularly to this one sports bar, I had bought a small universal remote that I programmed for the TV the bar had in the darts area. It was usually on some sports channel, but I always put it on FNC. 

[USA4ME]

havocmom

7. Had the car into the dealer for oil change, they tried to sell us new car
 
Told them I won't buy anything again from any place that makes me suffer through FOX news.

Next oil change.... no FOX. I am thinking I am not the only person who complained.

Liar.

Without exception, anytime I've had to sit in a car dealerships' waiting room to have work done, everyone in there just leaves the TV on the channel it's set out of the desire to not want to upset anyone else who's in there waiting for their car that might be watching.  On rare occasions, I've seen someone get up and ask if anyone's watching a particular show and if they can check to see what else is on, but it's never a "I don't wanna watch this station" type of thing, it's always something like an infomercial has come on.

.

[Rufus2010]

What is funny most of them have probably never watched FN in their life. They just parrot the sewage the hear from fellow DUmmies and on MSDNC.

[diesel driver]

What is funny most of them have probably never watched FN in their life. They just parrot the sewage the hear from fellow DUmmies and on MSDNC.

That's pretty much how DUmmies operate....

They have never listened to Rush, Hannity, Beck, Boortz, Medved, etc., but they don't have to, because they already "know" that they are all           .  (Fill in the blank with whatever derogatory word de jour the elites are using).

Liberals in general and DUmmies in particular have NOT been educated, merely indoctrinated beyond their intelligence....

[VelvetElvis]

Obviously these nitwits have never been in an airport. 
It's about the only place I have to allow myself to be afflicted with the pus-filled abscess that is CNN.  Probably accounts for about 50% of their viewership.

[Karin]

Is it just me?  The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's.  The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports.  I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing. 

[franksolich]

Is it just me?  The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's.  The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports.  I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing.

I don't pay much attention to televisions in public areas (or even, I guess, private areas), as I can't hear what's being said, and closed-captioning sucks worse than a busted vacuum cleaner.

Once in a while, in passing, I look at a screen, and what I usually see is that the left half has the anchorman telling one story, while the right half, divided into two quarters, one stacked atop the other, has two other stories being related at the same time.  And then there's the script crawling along the bottom of the screen.

Isn't this sort of like four people all talking at the same time?

How does one put up with this crap?

[diesel driver]

Is it just me?  The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's.  The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports.  I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing.  

That's because we actually LIVE in the real world, not whatever utopian hellhole DUmmies dwell in, or imagine that they do.

[blitzkrieg_17]

That's pretty much how DUmmies operate....

They have never listened to Rush, Hannity, Beck, Boortz, Medved, etc., but they don't have to, because they already "know" that they are all           .  (Fill in the blank with whatever derogatory word de jour the elites are using).

Liberals in general and DUmmies in particular have NOT been educated, merely indoctrinated beyond their intelligence....

That's why they're liberals.

[Freeper]

Is it just me?  The places I go to, like banks, restaurants, offices, etc. don't have TV's.  The only TVs I've seen in restaurants are sports bars, and those are tuned to sports.  I'm just not seeing what the loons are seeing. 

The only place I have seen faux snooze on the tv is Logan's steakhouse it was on one of the 12 tvs in there. The rest were sports.

[crockspot]

I think I might have heard somewhere that the ratings people count every person who walks within 1000 yards of a television tuned to FNC as a viewer. I think I also might have heard somewhere that KKKarl Rove pays people and businesses $100,000 worth of old Nazi gold Joooooo teeth to tune into FNC.

Therefore, MSNBC is really teh winnah!

/DUmmy mode

What a bunch of friggin idiots.

[Revolution]

The McDonalds in my town here has FNC tuned in pretty much all the time. I'm very glad about it, actually. Can't see the screen for shit due to the small TVs, but I tend to pay attention if I see the "Breaking news yellow and white(formerly red and white) flashing.

AnArmyVeteran  (1000+ posts)          Sat Jul-24-10 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. But they will definitely lose the business of the great majority of NON-faux people

So...the little guy's businesses are safe then.

[Karin]

Frank said:

Isn't this sort of like four people all talking at the same time?

How does one put up with this crap?

It's at its very worst on the Saturday morning Fox business shows.  They put 1 or 2 liberals on, and 3 or 4 conservatives on, as a panel.  They do talk over each other, and the designated moderator does not rein them in properly.  You can't understand any of them.  Drives me crazy.  I would have a mic silencer right in front of me if I were the mod. 

[debk]

Frank said:
It's at its very worst on the Saturday morning Fox business shows.  They put 1 or 2 liberals on, and 3 or 4 conservatives on, as a panel.  They do talk over each other, and the designated moderator does not rein them in properly.  You can't understand any of them.  Drives me crazy.  I would have a mic silencer right in front of me if I were the mod. 

Did you see the one on Saturday morning that Wayne Roger's is on? They got pretty heated. Hard to get much of anything out of it...

[dutch508]

Lately the left side of the panels seem to be shouting down any attempt at conversation on most of the shows. Fox News Sunday is a rare ecception. Both sides are respectful.

Has anyone else felt this way?