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Offline Carl

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Easter bouncy
« on: March 23, 2008, 05:24:38 PM »
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sasquatch  (1000+ posts)         Sun Mar-23-08 04:49 PM
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The right wing religion industry has destroyed my family and destroyed my brother's life as well
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Yesterday my family had Easter dinner, I know it was Saturday but everybody had a lot to do on Sunday and they didn't want to interfere into anything we were doing on Sunday. Since I'm a non Church attending Christian the previous statement doesn't apply to me. My brother though is a low level sociopath and I've somewhat known that ever since we were kids. By low-level I mean a sociopath that is inspired by other higher level sociopaths and follows them to the ends of the earth. Unfortunatly for my brother's young family these sociopaths sometimes destroy their lives as well.  :whatever:

After dinner my brother showed up with my 14 month old nephew and spoke to us for a while. My brother attends a fundamentalist evangelical church in Poasttown, a section outside of Middletown, Ohio. The reason he wasn't at dinner was because they were having some type of "event" at his church and it involved my nephew. Anyway after he sat down he began to talk about his church and his pastor. He told us that his pastor was "the most honest man I know". About how their current church keeps expanding in members despite the fact it originally went from just 12 "active" members to now 200 "active" members. Also how they would have over 400 people there at their Easter ceremony. Also their church was having to expand due to increased Church "membership". His church is becoming like that of his MIL's, a mega-church.

I always had a deep suspicion about this church because many of it's "converts" were fundamentalist. So I asked my brother what are his ministers sermons about and he said they were always about "salvation" which is a common theme that fundamentalist "preach" to keep their masses "in line". He also said he preached a lot about "Hell" too, which is also a common tactic by these "ministers" because they hope to keep their parrishoners so terrified that they won't go outside of the church for anything or challenge his authority. This is also how the "ministers" keep the donations rolling in as well so the church keeps "expanding" its influence over the community at large.   :whatever:

My brither then went on speel about how people that don't believe in God are deeply remoureful because they don't know God so they're going to a place of eternal torment while the "believers" funerals are happy and joyfull. That statement really made me uneasy, but I countered it by describing a Black funeral where almost everyone there is deeply religious yet they're very upset. What he said next horrified me. My brother then said "well all the Black people I see are the ones that are dying from selling crack and I don't see that as 'Godly'." This stopped me upset me dramaticly because his best friend when he was growing up was a black child.

To top off this evening of absolute horror he also stated the following:
- Hurricane Katrina was "God's wrath" because of the sinfullness of the City of New Orleans. He wouldn't take into account any counter arguments about how bad Hurricanes were that year or that the city is in a Huricane zone or anything. Gee you mean it wasn`t global warming or President Bushs` means of killing poor black people?
- Evolution is a dissproved theory.
- The King James Bible is the only source of the word of God. Which is so factually in correct I can't believe it and he wouldn't listen to any facts like about James I, the Jewish Torah or the oldest Christian Bibles were in Greek and Latin, not 17th century English.
- Also that we're in the "end of days".

My family was left horrified and in dissbelief  :whatever: over what had transpired. I had warned my mother for years about what my brother was up to and even after last night she still won't listen. I'm afraid I know where this will end it will end like it has ended everywhere this has began. It will end in Mount Carmel, or in Jonestown, or the World Trade Center, or anywhere else the members of a cult have been abused by their leaders and his surrogates have ended their lives for "the service of the one true God" have ended it.

BTW, could we recommend this so others can read it on the front page.


You are an ignorant fool and a liar.  ::)

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CaliforniaPeggy  (1000+ posts)         Sun Mar-23-08 04:58 PM
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1. My dear sasquatch...
   I understand your horror at what has become of your brother, but believe me, people like him are vastly outnumbered by normal, caring folk.

There is no way on earth that these people will prevail...

There are just too many right-minded people around to allow this to happen.

I know it's looming very large in your mind right now because of what happened with your brother so recently...

Please take care...

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sasquatch  (1000+ posts)         Sun Mar-23-08 05:23 PM
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11. That's what scares me peggy
   Only 10% of Germany were members of the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party. Yet they overtook not only the nation, but eventually they overtook most of Europe as well. Millions of people lost there lives because of these absolutist destroyers and good people didn't act before it was too late for millions of others.
   

So this is the point you really wanted to make. ::)

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kineneb (1000+ posts)         Sun Mar-23-08 05:34 PM
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18. religion can be an addiction
   Your brother is in the grip of an addiction, and you do not need to enable him. If the rest of your family cannot see this, they will be in for a world of hurt. Emotional distance is needed, for your own safety and sanity.
   

No addiction is what all your drug addled minds contend with.

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ileus (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-23-08 05:54 PM
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28. God is the Devil

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Taverner  (1000+ posts)         Sun Mar-23-08 05:56 PM
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29. **** religion. Seriously.
   I'm an atheist but even if you were Christian, you won't find what you're looking for in any church.

Then you know this how?
Stupid and bigoted are their middle names.
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2008, 05:28:19 PM »
I was eagerly awaiting the first Easter bouncy!!


Thank you!
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 05:36:02 PM »
I was also waiting for an Easter bouncy coming around. If there is one thing I can say about the dummies it's the fact that they're so consistent.
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 05:40:17 PM »
The first bouncy of the Easter weekend well done.  :-)
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 05:42:41 PM »
A Christian who believes in Heaven, Hell, and Salvation? Now there's something you don't see everyday. Has to be a cult.

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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 05:43:47 PM »
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ileus (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-23-08 05:54 PM
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28. God is the Devil

Uh? Wrong again.........good grief. :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright:
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2008, 09:23:01 PM »
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Hurricane Katrina was "God's wrath" because of the sinfullness of the City of New Orleans. He wouldn't take into account any counter arguments about how bad Hurricanes were that year or that the city is in a Huricane zone or anything. Gee you mean it wasn`t global warming or President Bushs` means of killing poor black people?
- Evolution is a dissproved theory.
- The King James Bible is the only source of the word of God. Which is so factually in correct I can't believe it and he wouldn't listen to any facts like about James I, the Jewish Torah or the oldest Christian Bibles were in Greek and Latin, not 17th century English.
- Also that we're in the "end of days".
Bull crap. Try again, DUmmie.
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My brother though is a low level sociopath and I've somewhat known that ever since we were kids. By low-level I mean a sociopath that is inspired by other higher level sociopaths and follows them to the ends of the earth. Unfortunatly for my brother's young family these sociopaths sometimes destroy their lives as well. 

A little projection there? If anyone knows what a sociopath is it's you. Negative -100 for this POS.

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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2008, 09:57:43 PM »
Quote from: dandi on March 23, 2008, 05:42:41 PM
A Christian who believes in Heaven, Hell, and Salvation? Now there's something you don't see everyday. Has to be a cult.

 :whatever:


Yeah, and that is the criteria for which the DUmmie attributes her brother being a sociopath.  Oh, and add the fact that he's raising his child to be a Christian.

I wonder what her version of Christianity is.
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2008, 09:08:33 AM »
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28. God is the Devil

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Romans 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2008, 11:22:10 AM »
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I always had a deep suspicion about this church because many of it's "converts" were fundamentalist. So I asked my brother what are his ministers sermons about and he said they were always about "salvation" which is a common theme that fundamentalist "preach" to keep their masses "in line". He also said he preached a lot about "Hell" too, which is also a common tactic by these "ministers" because they hope to keep their parrishoners so terrified that they won't go outside of the church for anything or challenge his authority. This is also how the "ministers" keep the donations rolling in as well so the church keeps "expanding" its influence over the community at large.   

How many pastors actually mention hell anymore?  They're so afraid to talk about it because a lot of people who go to church don't want to hear about it. 
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2008, 11:29:44 AM »
Quote from: Bondai on March 23, 2008, 05:43:47 PM
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ileus (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-23-08 05:54 PM
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28. God is the Devil

Uh? Wrong again.........good grief. :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright:

I think the poster left out the all important word "my" at the begining of that statement. :lmao:
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2008, 03:29:32 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on March 24, 2008, 11:29:44 AM
Quote from: Bondai on March 23, 2008, 05:43:47 PM
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ileus (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-23-08 05:54 PM
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28. God is the Devil

Uh? Wrong again.........good grief. :mental: :thatsright: :mental: :thatsright:

I think the poster left out the all important word "my" at the begining of that statement. :lmao:

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Good one!
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2008, 04:01:05 PM »
The bigfoot primitive needs to invest in spell check. If you're going to go on and on about something, at least make it readable!!! :-)

I love how they worked in a lot of talking points. Two bongs.
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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2008, 05:24:57 PM »
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ileus (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-23-08 05:54 PM
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28. God is the Devil

HA HA HA!!
Is that the best you can do?
No wonder you are called DUmmy.
That doesn't hurt me a single bit because I consider the source.
I don't speak for God I only believe his word.

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Re: Easter bouncy
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2008, 07:12:38 PM »
Every "progressive/Liberal/DUmmy type" seems to hate and fear Christians.
But they have no fear of a Muslim, no matter how fanatic.

At work one of them told me that he would never take his children to church because all pastors/priests were pedophiles.
But a month earlier he supported a Vermont judges slapping the wrist of a pedo, and letting him go.

 :mental: DUmmy's can't even be consistent. 
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