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Oh my.

BurtWorm  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-21-10 09:54 PM
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When the right wing barks, the mainstream bows.   

That includes the media, the White House, the Democratic leadership for the most part. This is a habit that is evidently very difficult to break.

It's also never been their habit to pay the least bit of attention to the left. That is going to have to change

niyad  (1000+ posts)       Wed Jul-21-10 09:56 PM
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1. any ideas on how to make that happen? nothing seems to have worked so far.

this last incident is proof of that.

BurtWorm  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-21-10 10:07 PM
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4. You mean the breaking the right wing habit or changing the other thing? 

You'd think getting burned over and over would make them want to stop getting taken in. But I seem to recall a time when it was just known that wingers were nuts, not worth taking at all seriously. Not worth getting anywhere near if you wanted to be taken seriously. Times have definitely changed.

The key to the whole thing, I have a strong suspicion, is our ****ed upness over race. We really need to deal with it, not pretend the society is post-racial, which is just what the Breitbarts want us all to believe because then they can keep pulling the shit they pull trying to stand racism on its head.

Democrats_win (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-21-10 10:04 PM
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2. Shame on the overpaid media....ah....the mainly fraud media.

Lasher  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-21-10 10:06 PM
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3. This has infuriated me for years.

Wingnut on a talk show froths at the mouth, accusing all Democrats of incest and genocide. Democratic wuss stays calm and above it all, saying he understands his friend's frustration. For a long time I have wished I could be on just one of those shows across from these fascist bastards. I'm nothing special but I could sure do a lot better than that.

txlibdem (96 posts)      Wed Jul-21-10 10:50 PM
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6. Maybe they're scared of the psychotic right

I believe we were inches away from a fascist coup during the reign of Cheney.

It sure seems like the Dems are always so timid. And you're right about the wuss thing on those shows. I used to get so infuriated that I had to turn off the tv, especially during the health care debate.

Anyone notice how Obama doesn't use the word "Republican" anymore when he slams the opposition. He says "we passed the tax cuts for the rich" not that the thugs needed Cheney sitting in the VP chair in the senate to get the last one. Sickening.

Lasher  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-22-10 05:21 AM
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11. Not only did the thugs need Lord Vader for that vote, they used reconciliation to do it. So Cheney was vote number 51, not number 61. Too bad we didn't have the guts to use reconciliation to pass single payer universal health care. Our legislative posture is just like members of Congress on the talk shows. They haul out every dirty trick in the book to get what they want. When we get in control we fall all over ourselves being eminently fair and above all that aggression.

BurtWorm  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-22-10 01:51 AM
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10. I think Dem wussiness comes from the old white boy's club that has been running the show for years. 

It's not that they're overtly racist, like the shits over on the other side of the aisle. If they're racist, it's not because of malevolent resentment, which drives bigots like Andrew "Not So" Breitbart, but because of the blindness of privilege. They give the benefit of the doubt to assholes like Breitbart because he's "one of us." They're not so used to seeing people of color unless they're opening doors or performing clerical or maintenance duties for them.

I know this may sound like a mean thing to say, but I actually think it's true. I think of someone like Patrick Leahy, one of my favorite Senators, always ready with a good, solid bit of liberalism when asked to be a talking head. But I'll never forget how clueless Leahy was with Condoleezza Rice when she testified in front of the foreign affairs committee to counter Richard Clarke's characterizations of her as uninterested in coutnerterrorism until after 9/11. He made an excruciatingly big deal out of Rice's race, sounding as though it was incredible that a black person--let alone a black *woman*!--could even be interested in foreign policy. And he wasn't the only Democrat to make such a spectacle of his racial cluelessness.

I was reminded of how even Joe Biden fumbled around with Anita Hill on the stand in 1990. These guys do not know how to deal with people not like themselves. They're not bad people. They're not vicious Breitbartian teabaggerish racists. They're old white men of privilege who don't know any better.

treestar  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-21-10 10:52 PM
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7. The WH knows the media carries water for the Republicans

And that the media was going to take the right wing's side, as it always does.

Ross K (75 posts)      Thu Jul-22-10 07:49 AM
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12. "The GOP has a 41-seat majority." DailyKos

The Dems in the Senate have totally bought into that!

EstimatedProphet  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-22-10 08:00 AM
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14. The "above it all" approach just isn't working

It's nice in theory...our side should stay above it all, not sink to their level, etc. etc. It doesn't work when there is another side that has a 24/7 media organ that has effectively become the only voice. Then the only thing that happens is that only one side is represented.

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BurtWorm
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When the right wing barks, the mainstream bows.   

That includes the media, the White House, the Democratic leadership for the most part. This is a habit that is evidently very difficult to break.

It's also never been their habit to pay the least bit of attention to the left. That is going to have to change

Well I knew the buttworm primitive was stupid, but he just never seems to be able to face reality.

The media tilts left.  They completely pay attention to the left with the exclusion of the right.  That's why Fox News has found a market, because ABC, NBC, & CBS only reported the news from the viewpoint of the left.  As a conservative, I'm not like you buttworm, I want to hear both sides and decide for myself.  You just want your own beliefs repeated as though their wasn't an alternative viewpoint.  How many times have you been told this, buttworm?  Are  you incapable of thinking?  Yes, it seems you are.


And if anyone is in the "habit (of not) pay(ing) the least bit of attention to the left," it's because you're kooks and liars.  Anyone who believes that Republicans/conservative are "overtly racist" is too stupid to be worthy of attention.  You simply can't be trusted to view events in an acurate manner.  With you, it's because you're an idiot.  Several of us enjoyed slapping you around at CU a few years ago, but quite frankly it was too easy, you're just not very bright.

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