Recursion (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. IMO clearly the mass incarceration was a much bigger contributer
(And though nobody likes talking about it, Roe v. Wade was an even bigger contributer.)
I guess I wasn't thinking specifically of stop-and-frisk as much as the more general "broken windows" attitude that has returned to police work since the early 90s.
Statistical (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-12-10 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Longer sentences & mainstream available abortion. You nailed it.
Neither are very popular but violent repeat offenders will re-offend roughly 20-40 times per year IIRC last time looking at FBI stats.
So keeping 100,000 violent felons who would re-offend in jail for just 1 extra year reduced violent crime rate by roughly 20 million instances.
Obviously this isn't sustainable or cheap but it has "worked". Hell is we reduced sentences for non-violent offenders and decriminalized marijuana we likely could free up enough space to increase sentences for violent criminals (epecially recurring violent criminals) by even more.
So says the DUmp Department of Pre-Crime. Personally, I prefer the old fashioned method of crime control: reverting scumbag DUmbasses to room temperature only once they're committed to committing the crime, preferrable with extreme force used by the intended victim. That way I know I'm only burying criminals, and not catching the occasional re-incarnations of Booker T. Washington, Peter Salem, Prince Estebrook, or James Armistad in the crossfire.
It might also help if our "representatives" weren't responding to every major or minor "criminal epidemic" by interfering with the LEO's ability to bag bad guys under existing laws and contriving more laws to micromanage the lives of otherwise law-abiding people.