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Obama's next act
« on: July 17, 2010, 07:15:38 AM »
As unsual, if not always, Dr. Krauthammer nails it.

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Obama's next act

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, July 16, 2010

In the political marketplace, there's now a run on Obama shares. The left is disappointed with the president. Independents are abandoning him in droves. And the right is already dancing on his political grave, salivating about November when, his own press secretary admitted Sunday, Democrats might lose the House.

I have a warning for Republicans: Don't underestimate Barack Obama.

Consider what he has already achieved. Obamacare alone makes his presidency historic. It has irrevocably changed one-sixth of the economy, put the country inexorably on the road to national health care and, as acknowledged by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus but few others, begun one of the most massive wealth redistributions in U.S. history.

Second, there is major financial reform, which passed Congress on Thursday. Economists argue whether it will prevent meltdowns and bailouts as promised. But there is no argument that it will give the government unprecedented power in the financial marketplace. Its 2,300 pages will create at least 243 new regulations that will affect not only, as many assume, the big banks but just about everyone, including, as noted in one summary (the Wall Street Journal), "storefront check cashiers, city governments, small manufacturers, home buyers and credit bureaus."

Third is the near $1 trillion stimulus, the largest spending bill in U.S. history. And that's not even counting nationalizing the student loan program, regulating carbon emissions by Environmental Protection Agency fiat, and still-fitful attempts to pass cap-and-trade through Congress.

Center of mass.  Isn't there something in Sun Tzu's teachings about underestimating your enemy?  Sean Hannity was all over this yesterday, agreeing wholeheartedly with Dr. Krauthammer's thesis here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR2010071504593.html
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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 07:34:47 AM »
There are quite a lot of lessons that Sun Tzu teaches that apply to politics. Having well paid, well placed spies, pressing the advantage, choosing the bttle field to your advantage, turning an advacaries assets into liabilities, things the Rep. Party studiously refuses to learn.

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 07:45:54 AM »
With that rap sheet the Republicans had better not mess up midterms. 

Disgusted with Brown that he caved on financial reform.   The taxpayer/consumer will be screwed over royally yet once again.

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2010, 08:05:54 AM »
Brown is well on his way to being a  lone termer. The dems will oppose him. His "moderation" will not earn him any significant dem votes but will LOSE him his Tea Party and conservative support.  Without these, he is back in "civvies" again. Damned fool.

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2010, 08:11:36 AM »
Scott Brown is a god here in MA.   There is no way he is losing anything -- matters not who is running against him.   He needed $$ from the country to beat Coakley.   Now he has the seat, no one is unseating him.   

Rumor is McGovern will try to.    Just not happening. 

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 08:14:19 AM »
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Scott Brown’s fund-raising prowess - fueled by health-care and financial special interests - is eclipsing Sarah Palin and other national Republicans seeking to build a campaign war chest for a 2012 White House run.

The freshman U.S. senator from Massachusetts is expected to announce today that he hauled in just over $1 million in campaign funds during the second quarter.

That’s more than the $865,000 raised during the same period by Palin, the darling of the Republican right who some believe is the front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination.

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20100715scott_browns_cash_grab_outpaces_peers/

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 10:57:52 AM »
The quickest way for Brown to lose his seat is to forget that only Massachussetts voters put him in it.  I'd  expect his voting decisions have a whole lot more to do with that, than with making Conservatives happy nationwide.
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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2010, 01:08:46 PM »
his first duty is to live up to his sworn oath of office, and this last vote failed to do that.  2300 pages of garbace which failes totally to address the problems that caused this crash, namely, the ninja loans. Freddy and Fanny are unregulated and back in business doing the same thing. If/when the consequences are revisited, Brown's gone. No matter what any voter anywhere thinks, holes are not made smaller by more diging in them.

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2010, 06:52:45 PM »
The quickest way for Brown to lose his seat is to forget that only Massachussetts voters put him in it.  I'd  expect his voting decisions have a whole lot more to do with that, than with making Conservatives happy nationwide.

Honestly, he only needs MA voters now to keep his seat. 

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 09:48:47 PM »
'zackly.  The ire of ten million Conservatives outside MA doesn't matter Jack, stacked up against how the majority of MA voters feel about him.

Despite leaving out Fannie and Freddie, I expect the majority of MA voters still see the bill as needed reform and standing against it just because it could be a lot better isn't a strong position there.

My personal opinion of it is that it is basically a waste of paper that will increase transactional friction, but not in a crippling way, and it will provide a false sense that things are fixed, but the falseness of that won't likely result in a disaster during my remaining lifetime.  Bottom line is that it's neither useful nor particularly dangerous in itself, but that means it is hard to muster a solid filibuster against it since it then becomes a pure power play rather than an important policy choice, and Senators like Brown and other Republicans in the Northeast are always going to be the weak links in that kind of situation.
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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2010, 02:00:52 AM »
Why is he doing it I wonder
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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 09:20:03 AM »
Why is he doing it I wonder

Simple. It gives the federal government more power.

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Re: Obama's next act
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 01:04:22 PM »
Despite the financial reform bill being un Constitutionally vague, un Constitutionally delegating law  making to the executive branch, it will also cost the public MORE money, cost the public HIGHER interest, make credit TIGHTER, ETC ETC ADNAUSEM. Thyis will pizz peoplke off. As will Scotts seming desire to satisfy his Democrat masters in DC  by compromising dishearten his moderate and conservativee support.  The dems will beat him using Alinski tactice holding his moderation against him, convincing thedem majority in Ma that you might as well vote for a registered  dem rather than a phony dem.....

Scott is not lost YET, but if he continues to "compromise" without tangible successful returns, he will be lost, and he'll deserve it.