Arizona Governor can force Obama to prove he’s eligible…or not!

[thundley4]

INSTEAD OF A LAWSUIT, FIGHT BACK WITH A DEMAND FOR QUO WARRANTO

Dear Editor:  The following email was sent to psenseman@az.gov, Governor Brewer’s press secretary:
July 11, 2010
Dear Mr. Senseman,
As you know, there are many unanswered questions about Barack Hussein Obama’s constitutional qualifications to act as President of the United States.  Governor Brewer, or any sitting governor, for that matter, has unique standing to challenge Obama on this issue and resolve the constitutional crisis he has perpetrated on the nation by his refusal to prove that he is a “natural born Citizen” by filing a Writ of Quo Warranto.

The American people are looking to Governor Brewer to defend her state as she is doing, but also to challenge a man who has most likely assumed the office of President through dissembling and deceit, wire fraud, election fraud, and document fraud.
There is a tremendous amount of circumstantial and other evidence which points to a foreign birth for Obama, and by his own admission, he was born a dual citizen. He has also carefully described himself as “a native citizen of the United States of America” but not a “natural born Citizen.”

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Does Obama have to prove that he has standing to file suit against AZ, or is it enough that it is the US government filing suit?

[Chris_]

 

[Chris_]

Obama should just let everyone see his birth certificate, diplomas, other records, etc.  If other presidents did/can, why can't he?  I think any historian would like to know.  The guy obviously has something to hide if he had to lock all of his records up.  I'm curious to know either way. 

[Thor]

Perhaps Laelth or one of our other lawyers that frequent here could answer this best. IN MY uneducated opinion, the lawsuit will probably be listed under Eric Holder as the plaintiff (or the office of atty General) or some stupid shit like that.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It would not likely be treated as germane to the suit, the Federal position rests on a fundamental issue about whether Supremacy precludes State enforcement action in immigration, it is really irrespective of who is holding the office of Chief Executive, that is, it is an issue of the legal relationship between the State and Federal governments, and the authority of each under the Constitution, not one of policy.

[thundley4]

It would not likely be treated as germane to the suit, the Federal position rests on a fundamental issue about whether Supremacy precludes State enforcement action in immigration, it is really irrespective of who is holding the office of Chief Executive, that is, it is an issue of the legal relationship between the State and Federal governments, and the authority of each under the Constitution, not one of policy.

That's sort of what I was thinking. The case would likely be something like "The United States v. The State of Arizona", where no person is listed as plaintiff or defendant.

[Eupher]

why so much hatred and jealousy, really do you think if he wasn't born in the US he could be president, im sure it was investigated by the CIA FBI DHLS prior to his inaguration and he did release his Birth Certificate and even went so far as to post it on his web site, Im a conservative but this just shows that we have no ammunition and are looking for any reason to discredit him. Let him do his job for now he won and more people liked him so he is our president no need to keep pushing old things and saying hes not good enough for the job since he is doing it and no one else could for the last eight years. Bush got us in this mess and Obama is trying to clean it up, hes doing a pretty good job even if he was born in "KEnya"

Are you old enough to post on this site?

[Attero Dominatus]

why so much hatred and jealousy, really do you think if he wasn't born in the US he could be president, im sure it was investigated by the CIA FBI DHLS prior to his inaguration and he did release his Birth Certificate and even went so far as to post it on his web site, Im a conservative but this just shows that we have no ammunition and are looking for any reason to discredit him. Let him do his job for now he won and more people liked him so he is our president no need to keep pushing old things and saying hes not good enough for the job since he is doing it and no one else could for the last eight years. Bush got us in this mess and Obama is trying to clean it up, hes doing a pretty good job even if he was born in "KEnya"

No ammunition? Rising debts healthcare rationing, throwing Israel under the bus, forcing everyone to pay ever higher taxes while the economy keeps falling...conservatives have plenty of ammunition. One does not have to be a 'birther' to believe that he should dispel any uncertainties; he is supposed to be serving us, not the other way around. Of course he is not going to do that because he sees himself as an anointed one, but still.

[IassaFTots]

Its funny you all care about Isreal when it suits you, but otherwise you could not care less. KKK members are wackos displaying Swastikas and hating Jews because they run the world supposidly. It seems to be a selective hatred for convenience.

Say wha?

[Attero Dominatus]

Its funny you all care about Isreal when it suits you, but otherwise you could not care less. KKK members are wackos displaying Swastikas and hating Jews because they run the world supposidly. It seems to be a selective hatred for convenience.

You are deluded if you think Lörd Zerø is an effective leader. He was quick to respond to criticism directed against him, but could not be bothered to quit his golf games when the oil spill happened. That is what we call thin skinned, or better yet, a wimp.

[Attero Dominatus]

Oil spill, really ? ? ? thats not his fault nor could he do anything about it... on the other hand bush was sitting in a class room when we were "attacked" by "terrorists" and chose to continue sitting there despite a national tragedy.  Un*uckin Belevable

Obama was just as indifferent about it as you leftists accused Bush of being about Katrina. And drop the bong, 9/11 was not some inside job.

[miskie]

Oil spill, really ? ? ? thats not his fault nor could he do anything about it... on the other hand bush was sitting in a class room when we were "attacked" by "terrorists" and chose to continue sitting there despite a national tragedy.  Un*uckin Belevable

It may not be his fault, but he is complicit.

1) The well in question DID NOT EXIST until October 2009.

2) Obama was advised by his own people that the current regulations were too lax. Obama did NOTHING to change them, or to even delay new drilling until his people reviewed it.

3) Once the leak did occur, he did nothing for nearly two months, except blame Bush for an accident to a well that happened on his watch under his approved regulations on a well that was drilled entirely under the Obama administration.

[Attero Dominatus]

It was quite convenient that Bush Sr. Hated Sadaam then all the sudden we get attacked after 8 years of peace under clinton, coincidence i dont think so, i dont know if it was an "Inside Job" however I think they knew about it and did nothing to stop it in order to go to war with Iraq and the rest of the middle east, just look at the time line. Think about it.

LIHOP? MIHOP? Or did you crap at IHOP?

[miskie]

It was quite convenient that Bush Sr. Hated Sadaam then all the sudden we get attacked after 8 years of peace under clinton, coincidence i dont think so, i dont know if it was an "Inside Job" however I think they knew about it and did nothing to stop it in order to go to war with Iraq and the rest of the middle east, just look at the time line. Think about it.

You do not remember your history lessons well. The objective of the 1st Gulf war was to get Iraq out of Kuwait. Once that occurred, GHW Bush halted the offensive and went back to attempting to bring peace to the middle east. Many of us feel that GHW Bush's one mistake was he didn't finish the job then. If he did, there would be no Iraq war today. the whole 'Junior went in to Iraq to seek revenge for Poppy' shtick is entirely fabricated.

[Attero Dominatus]

hind sight is 20/20 nothing like this had ever happened before so he wouldn't know and to blame obama is nuts??? if it weren't for big oil and greedy people it wouldnt happened. Obama tried to put a moratorium on drilling and the lobbyist and courts stopped him and continued drilling... so   we need to end our dependence on foreign oil and start using clean renewable energy that is safe for the environment, democrats have been saying it for years.

Biofuels require vast tracts of farmland that will eat into space used for food production which will result in food shortages. Electric vehicles simply remove combustion from the car engine to the power plant. Wind is not constant. And even if you could do all of that without the consequences, you still need oil to produce the plastics that encase those 'renewable' energy devices and asphalt for roads, and various chemicals that make our modern life possible.

The solution to eliminating dependence on foreign oil is to drill MORE oil in the US, not less.

[miskie]

hind sight is 20/20 nothing like this had ever happened before so he wouldn't know and to blame obama is nuts??? if it weren't for big oil and greedy people it wouldnt happened. Obama tried to put a moratorium on drilling and the lobbyist and courts stopped him and continued drilling.

False. Obama did not attempt any deep water drilling moratorium until after the fact. Leaks like this have happened before - ask Russia.

we need to end our dependence on foreign oil and start using clean renewable energy that is safe for the environment, democrats have been saying it for years.

True. Ending our dependence on foreign oil would be easy if there was not Obama supported sanctions and bans against shallow water drilling and land based drilling. If the drilling were done on land or in shallow waters, this leak would have already been dealt with -- but because of the restraints placed by Clinton, most drillers are way out to sea, and when something goes wrong it becomes very difficult to fix. As for renewable energy, there is nobody who isn't for it - it is just in its infancy and will take years to make something worthwhile.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Oil spill, really ? ? ? thats not his fault nor could he do anything about it... on the other hand bush was sitting in a class room when we were "attacked" by "terrorists" and chose to continue sitting there despite a national tragedy.  Un*uckin Belevable

Wow, Bush is a bad guy for taking a few extra minutes to avoid traumatizing some little kids, to jump into a situation he couldn't affect one way or the other and which was already being handled as much as it could by the most powerful assets available, but Obama's not to blame for sticking his thumb up his ass and rotating for two months after everything there was to know was on the table with the oil spill?  You must be a Troofer Democrat trying for cred with the DUmmies, or else there's a small bus with an empty seat today. 

[miskie]

You must be a Troofer Democrat trying for cred with the DUmmies, or else there's a small bus with an empty seat today. 

Indeed - why else would Christie's words be surrounded by quotes -- "  "attacked" by "terrorists"  "  --- just reading that I could hear the obnoxious air quotes being made by the author..  -- if not a DUmmie, a fan of prisonplanet.com & Alex Jones at the very least. 

[NHSparky]

It was quite convenient that Bush Sr. Hated Sadaam then all the sudden we get attacked after 8 years of peace under clinton, coincidence i dont think so, i dont know if it was an "Inside Job" however I think they knew about it and did nothing to stop it in order to go to war with Iraq and the rest of the middle east, just look at the time line. Think about it.

Hmmmm...seems like our little self-proclaimed "conservative" troll (conservatroll?) forgot a few little items that happened during those "8 years of peace", such as:

--Khobar Towers
--1st WTC bombing
--US Embassy bombings
--USS Cole attack

To name a few.  Oh, and how long were the 9/11 attackers here before they carried out their acts?  YEARS, was it?

[DumbAss Tanker]

To name a few.  Oh, and how long were the 9/11 attackers here before they carried out their acts?  YEARS, was it?

It is obvious to anyone but a Democrat that the plan was put in motion long, long before the election.  I'm not privy to any special information, but the mode of operation used would require a minimum of two years to move all the pieces into place once the decision was made to proceed, and that does not even take into account the preliminary research before that point could be reached into the means, the target, and why the previous WTC attack failed (Of course, our media did an admirable job of helping OBL on that one).   

[JohnnyReb]

hind sight is 20/20 nothing like this had ever happened before so he wouldn't know and to blame obama is nuts??? if it weren't for big oil and greedy people it wouldnt happened. Obama tried to put a moratorium on drilling and the lobbyist and courts stopped him and continued drilling... so   we need to end our dependence on foreign oil and start using clean renewable energy that is safe for the environment, democrats have been saying it for years.

We use 21,000,000 barrels of oil per day ....that's 882,000,000 gallons of crude oil PER DAMN DAY.... and that's not counting coal, natural gas and hydroelectricity... To replace all that energy with your wonderful renewable green energy we'd have to live in the shade, go hungry, dam every river and put up enough windmills to kill every bird and flying insect there is in the air.

Take another draw on the bong and dream those beautiful dreams.

[THA HOUSTON PIMP IS IN DA HOUZ!]

LOOKS like the pimpslapp left the troll with his tail between his legs.

[Revolution]

Oil spill, really ? ? ? thats not his fault nor could he do anything about it... on the other hand bush was sitting in a class room when we were "attacked" by "terrorists" and chose to continue sitting there despite a national tragedy.  Un*uckin Belevable

Now wait a god damned minute! I'll read the other posts later, but th8is got my attention. You look down on/criticise "birthers" and yet....you're a truther?


Let me ask you one very simple question, primitave: What is your opinion of Bush intellectually? If you think he was the stupidest man alive like most of your kind, then how could he pull of an act of such magnitude that requires a lot of secrecy, intellegence, and planning.

You can't have it both ways. Either the guy was a highly intelligent, or the stupidest guy on earth in your eyes. Pick one.

I'm inclined to believe it was a TERRORIST ATTACK by Bin Laden!

Bush isn't stupid, and he isn't evil either.

Take your conspiracy theories, and shove 'em.

[formerlurker]

It was quite convenient that Bush Sr. Hated Sadaam then all the sudden we get attacked after 8 years of peace under clinton, coincidence i dont think so, i dont know if it was an "Inside Job" however I think they knew about it and did nothing to stop it in order to go to war with Iraq and the rest of the middle east, just look at the time line. Think about it.

Eight years of peace?   No fly zone.   Oil-for-foodblood.   google both of them junior. 

[asdf2231]

Its funny you all care about Isreal when it suits you, but otherwise you could not care less. KKK members are wackos displaying Swastikas and hating Jews because they run the world supposidly. It seems to be a selective hatred for convenience.

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