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Liberally Medicated
« on: July 07, 2010, 02:17:03 PM »
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Octafish  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-07-10 04:23 PM
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Poll question: Are You on Anti-Depressants?
 In metro Detroit, most everyone I know in the 40-60 demo is taking some form of medication.

Those who are married, working and with health insurance, have been prescribed anti-depressants.

Some, particularly those without jobs, are self-medicating with alcohol and marijuana.

Me, I'm so broke all I can afford to do are keep the blinds down and my eyes wide shut...our poor dog.

Not trying to share misery, I simply would like to know if mind medication is a national phenomenon. How are things for you?
Poll result (120 votes) 
Do not take any Anti-Depressant medicine or chemical  (58 votes, 48%)
Prescribed Anti-Depressants  (41 votes, 34%)
Self-Medicating for Depression  (15 votes, 13%) 
Everything's great for me, but I know someone who is on Meds  (5 votes, 4%)
Everything's great for me, but I know someone who Self-Medicates  (1 votes, 1%)

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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 02:32:53 PM »
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Poll question: Are You on Anti-Depressants?
 In metro Detroit, most everyone I know in the 40-60 demo is taking some form of medication.

Those who are married, working and with health insurance, have been prescribed anti-depressants.

Some, particularly those without jobs, are self-medicating with alcohol and marijuana.

Me, I'm so broke all I can afford to do are keep the blinds down and my eyes wide shut...our poor dog.
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 02:59:36 PM »
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Not trying to share misery, I simply would like to know if mind medication is a national phenomenon. How are things for you?

Phenomenon? Are you kiddin'?

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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2010, 03:20:09 PM »
Are drug addled people liberals or does being liberal force one to be drug addicted? A corollary to the great question of whether one must first be mentally ill to be liberal or does the conflict reality of liberalism make one mentally ill. 
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2010, 03:46:56 PM »
Are drug addled people liberals or does being liberal force one to be drug addicted? A corollary to the great question of whether one must first be mentally ill to be liberal or does the conflict reality of liberalism make one mentally ill.  

Which came first . . . the chicken or the egg?

AR, there's small pockets of us in those states, too.  Hell, there's a good percentage of us in the NYS agency I work for, too.  ETA:  We don't need no stinkin' meds, either!
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 05:40:36 PM »
Are drug addled people liberals or does being liberal force one to be drug addicted? A corollary to the great question of whether one must first be mentally ill to be liberal or does the conflict reality of liberalism make one mentally ill. 

That's like askin' which came first, the chicken or the egg! In the long run you still get egg on your face!
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 05:41:29 PM »
Which came first . . . the chicken or the egg?

AR, there's small pockets of us in those states, too.  Hell, there's a good percentage of us in the NYS agency I work for, too.  ETA:  We don't need no stinkin' meds, either!

Heh! Great minds think alike!

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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 06:12:54 PM »
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29. I'm currently staring at the bottom of a bag of pure sativa...
   ...that is the best pot I've smoked in years-- best in the sense of matching my body chemistry, as you suggested. It's a great body stone-- not monster THC but very nice and stony-- but it leaves me utterly clear headed and energized. One of my former grad students gifted it to me-- he's a 215 provider for several folks here. He calls it his "working pot" because he smokes it all day while he works on his successful small scale organic farm.

I'm gonna be so bummed when that bag is finished (and it certainly won't last the rest of the week).

Over the years I've come to understand that the inherent variability in Cannabis strains is one of the best things about marijuana. If you're willing to experiment and try lots of different clones, you'll usually find one that is well matched for your body and mind. There is no "one-size-fits-all" marijuana.

Umm, is a message board allowed to keep posts of people admitting that they're engaging in illegal activity? and these are the people teaching our kids?
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 06:21:37 PM »
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Poll result (169 votes)
Do not take any Anti-Depressant medicine or chemical   (80 votes, 47%)   Vote
Prescribed Anti-Depressants   (59 votes, 35%)   Vote
Self-Medicating for Depression   (22 votes, 13%)   Vote
Everything's great for me, but I know someone who is on Meds   (7 votes, 4%)   Vote
Everything's great for me, but I know someone who Self-Medicates   (1 votes, 1%)

Updated poll results. Part in bold tells me a) bullshit and b) probably a mole trap. I've never met a larger group of medicated clones as Skin's Island. Now they'll know who to purge for not taking the kool aid flavored happy pills.
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 06:23:18 PM »
Umm, is a message board allowed to keep posts of people admitting that they're engaging in illegal activity? and these are the people teaching our kids?

This SOB needs to be hunted down and immediately givin' a drug test! If he's a damn teacher, he should be in the unemployment line no later than tomorrow!
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 06:37:56 PM »
This SOB needs to be hunted down and immediately givin' a drug test! If he's a damn teacher, he should be in the unemployment line no later than tomorrow!

He's a tenured professor, that has locked horns with Tx. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 06:44:11 PM »
He's a tenured professor, that has locked horns with Tx. 

You mean to tell me, if you're tenured, you're above the law? Never thought I'd see that in TX!
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 07:19:36 PM »
You mean to tell me, if you're tenured, you're above the law? Never thought I'd see that in TX!

I mean TxRadioGuy . . .

. . . but it's difficult to get a tenured prof removed from his teaching position.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 07:25:16 PM »
I mean TxRadioGuy . . .

. . . but it's difficult to get a tenured prof removed from his teaching position.

Ah, seems to me I remember bits and pieces!

Even if he admits breaking the law????????????????? Tenured doesn't mean you can get away with criminal activity!

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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 08:35:15 PM »
Are drug addled people liberals or does being liberal force one to be drug addicted? A corollary to the great question of whether one must first be mentally ill to be liberal or does the conflict reality of liberalism make one mentally ill. 

I'm bipolar with OCD and general anxiety disorder. My medicine chest probably looks much like the DUmmies. However, I don't wear it as a badge of honor or wallow in it. Whether it's nature or nurture or a combination I don't know. I just take my meds and live my life but without them my life is a pain in the ass.

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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 08:44:20 PM »
I'm bipolar with OCD and general anxiety disorder. My medicine chest probably looks much like the DUmmies. However, I don't wear it as a badge of honor or wallow in it. Whether it's nature or nurture or a combination I don't know. I just take my meds and live my life but without them my life is a pain in the ass.

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Cindie, one of my sisters is bipolar with depression, other sister and brother are treated for depression, as was our mother.  HER father, his two brothers, and both of their parents all commited suicide.  Obviously mental health issues run deeply in my family, although my children have been spared thus far.  I've been diagnosed with GAD, OCD and panic attacks and have to take SSRI's or suffer grave consequences.  Taking meds for people like us is necessary, but people who use them for recreational purposes give us all a bad reputation, IMO.
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 09:35:33 PM »
I'm bipolar with OCD and general anxiety disorder. My medicine chest probably looks much like the DUmmies. However, I don't wear it as a badge of honor or wallow in it. Whether it's nature or nurture or a combination I don't know. I just take my meds and live my life but without them my life is a pain in the ass.

Cindie

Ya certainly can't tell it Cin.

If you hadn't mentioned it, unlike DUmbasses, who wear it like a badge of honor, we would have never known. Which, for you lurking DUmmies, is the definition of class! Of course you would have no idea what that means, would you?

You have to make sure everyone on the planet knows so you can define your miserable existence and play the victim!
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2010, 10:15:42 PM »
Not sure if these people are aware of this, but if someone has a mental condition or something like anxiety, pot smoking can actually make the disorders worse.
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2010, 10:19:37 PM »
I'm bipolar with OCD and general anxiety disorder. My medicine chest probably looks much like the DUmmies.
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However, I don't wear it as a badge of honor or wallow in it.
Whether it's nature or nurture or a combination I don't know. I just take my meds and live my life but without them my life is a pain in the ass.

Cindie

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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 10:42:39 PM »
Not sure if these people are aware of this, but if someone has a mental condition or something like anxiety, pot smoking can actually make the disorders worse.

Wow, I didn't know that. I haven't smoked since I was in my early 20's and both my sons were athletes and were too busy for that (though my oldest went to parties in high school so who knows). My youngest son made a mental note about the kind of things his brother got in trouble for and avoided them. I don't really think about it but it makes sense. I never really liked it anyway, just made me sleepy and it stank.

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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2010, 10:46:57 PM »
Oh yeah... paranoid city.  I'm surprised more people don't stop smoking it, but I guess by the time you get to that point, it's a habit.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2010, 10:52:43 PM »
Wow, I didn't know that. I haven't smoked since I was in my early 20's and both my sons were athletes and were too busy for that (though my oldest went to parties in high school so who knows). My youngest son made a mental note about the kind of things his brother got in trouble for and avoided them. I don't really think about it but it makes sense. I never really liked it anyway, just made me sleepy and it stank.

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Here's some info on it:

Marijuana and Mental Health
A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, and schizophrenia. Some of these studies have shown age at first use to be a factor, where early use is a marker of vulnerability to later problems. However, at this time, it is not clear whether marijuana use causes mental problems, exacerbates them, or is used in attempt to self-medicate symptoms already in existence. Chronic marijuana use, especially in a very young person, may also be a marker of risk for mental illnesses, including addiction, stemming from genetic or environmental vulnerabilities, such as early exposure to stress or violence. At the present time, the strongest evidence links marijuana use and schizophrenia and/or related disorders. High doses of marijuana can produce an acute psychotic reaction; in addition, use of the drug may trigger the onset or relapse of schizophrenia in vulnerable individuals.

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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2010, 10:58:52 PM »
BTW, I developed anxiety disorder at 16, within a few weeks of smoking a joint for the 1st time, although there's a family history of anxiety disorder, I always wondered what exactly triggered it. I've been anxiety free for many years now, but it's always lurking back there when I'm under stress and I've been able to keep it under control. I used Xanax for a year when I was in my 20's and got off of it, the constant use of it made me feel like a zombie.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2010, 11:04:42 PM »
Here's an excerpt from another interesting article talking about the possible correlation between pot smoking and mental health issues:

http://www.thesite.org/drinkanddrugs/drugsafety/drugsandyourbody/cannabisandmentalhealth

There's increasing evidence to suggest that long-term use of cannabis can lead to the development of psychosis, particularly among those who start using it in their teens. A study in New Zealand found that those who had used cannabis three times or more before the age of 15 were much more likely to experience symptoms of schizophrenia by the time they were 26. The research team concluded that there's a vulnerable minority of teenagers for whom cannabis is harmful, but added that, "We're not saying that cannabis is the major cause of schizophrenia, but it's a risk factor."

A study of 2,500 14 to 24 year-olds in Munich, Germany, found that among those who had no vulnerability to psychosis, cannabis use moderately raised the risk of developing signs of psychosis later on, from 16% to 25%. But for those who were considered vulnerable to psychosis (who had shown psychotic symptoms by the age of 11), scientists found a stronger link. For these people, cannabis use almost doubled their chance of developing psychosis, from 25% to 50%. Also, the risks increased with the more cannabis they smoked, and the earlier they smoked it.

Meanwhile, a team from Bristol and Cardiff Universities published a paper that claims cannabis users are 40% more likely to suffer a psychotic illness than non users. The research suggests that although the risk of getting a psychotic illness like schizophrenia remained low, it could be a factor in 14% of psychotic problems in young adults in the UK. The researchers looked at 35 studies on cannabis and its link to mental health.
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Re: Liberally Medicated
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2010, 05:10:14 AM »
I'm bipolar with OCD and general anxiety disorder. My medicine chest probably looks much like the DUmmies. However, I don't wear it as a badge of honor or wallow in it. Whether it's nature or nurture or a combination I don't know. I just take my meds and live my life but without them my life is a pain in the ass.

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