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Offline franksolich

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primitive wants to get rejected
« on: July 04, 2010, 06:35:58 PM »
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Berry Cool  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-26-10 04:13 PM
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How many of you ever even get formal rejections from any employer to whom you apply?

I almost never do. Frequently the employer goes on advertising the job, but othertimes they fill the position and simply never get back to me with a "sorry." I include in this employers who singled me out for a phone interview from hundreds of applicants. I consider that the height of rudeness and inconsideration. It's one thing when you're just one of hundreds, but when they start winnowing down, don't they owe you a no?

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Kat45  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-26-10 06:10 PM
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1. Once in a blue moon, I get a phone call telling me I didn't get the job.

This has happened rarely, and only when I've actually gone in for an interview. Once or twice I have received an email letting me know that they got so many qualified candidates that they will not pursue my candidacy. There have been times I've had a second interview with a company and nobody ever got back to me to let me know I didn't get the job. (And in some cases, it was a job I really wanted and thought I might get.) I agree with you that the employers' practices are rude, particularly when you've gone in for an in-person interview. And I too have seen jobs continue to be advertised; other times, I see the job advertised again several months later. I have no idea what is going on: Did they hire someone and fire them? Did they not find anyone perfect enough to hire? Did the job ever even exist?

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2Design  (1000+ posts)      Mon May-31-10 07:33 PM
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2. It used to make me angry to see them continue to advertise or tell the newspaper they couldn't find qualified candidates - that one I wrote to them - they finally sent me the reject letter for a job I never applied for - so they are clueless

ones who post on bulletin boards - I tear them down -

They need to act professional or get treat like the unprofessional they are

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SCRUBDASHRUB  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jun-08-10 12:14 PM
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3. Once in a while, I will get a rejection email or letter, but it seems a rare thing these days.

What has been really pissing me off lately are recruiters who won't ****ing call me back (they say they will, but they don't.) or follow up/follow through. I don't care how busy they are; I feel like they are playing with people's livelihoods. I follow up and still, nothing. Sorry; I'm in a pissy ass mood today.

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DaveJ  (1000+ posts)      Tue Jun-22-10 09:48 AM
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4. doubt they will ever get back with me

I just had my first real interview in years. Had a couple short 5 minute conversations on the phone. They really liked me, but in person I got nervous, so therefore now I'm certain they will not hire me. That's ok, though, since my current employer found out, I got a big raise.

I didn't think getting nervous would matter, for a position as a computer programmer, but apparently the programmers there were not really techies, but managers of outsourced employees. So they were not really looking for a talented worker, someone who is more the egotistical control freak type, which I'm not.

This massively unprofessional an incompetent company seems to have unintentionally helped me out, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

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Turborama  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-30-10 03:47 AM
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5. No reply to an email application 

On Sunday night I sent in an application with a covering letter in the email and attached my resume. This was for a locally advertised position for a charity in my neigborhood. I phoned them in advance to find out if the position had already been filled and they said no. They also sounded really interested when I gave them a bit of my background info. It's a small charity in an unpopulated area, I doubt there will be that many candidates.

Still waiting to find out if they have even received the email or not.

This is the umpteenth time I have sent in an application via email and had zero response from the get go. It seems to be common practice these days and I too consider it the height of rudeness and inconsideration. Do unto others.

Okay, here's how franksolich sees the problem, and the primitives got only themselves to blame.

Because of unaffirmative inaction laws, because of unfair unemployment laws, because of don't hire the handicapped laws, because of uncivil nonrights laws--all laws brought about by Democrats, liberals, and primitives--companies and governmental agencies are REQUIRED to advertise job openings.....even when they've already made up their minds to hire someone in particular for that job.

This is a phenomenon especially common in blue states and blue cities.

They're advertising for candidates, even though they've already made up their minds, so as to be in compliance with all these employment laws.

What happens is that applicants get their hopes up, seeing something advertised as "open."

And then it turns out their hopes were in vain even before they wasted all that ink and paper.

How's that Hope and Changey thing working?
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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 06:51:48 PM »
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Had a couple short 5 minute conversations on the phone. They really liked me, but in person I got nervous, so therefore now I'm certain they will not hire me.

If you had a 5-minute conversation on the phone, they didn't like you.

When I applied for my current position, I spoke to the company recruiter several times (he mostly calling me) getting clarifications on this qualification or that.  When I finally got a phone interview (with who would then be my supervisor) it lasted over an hour. 

THEN they flew me out for an interview with the same supervisor and the department manager.  Where I was then verbally offered the position later that day, and received a formal offer from Florida within a week.
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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 07:29:26 PM »
I've been hired based solely on my resume and what my references had to say, and been hired through rigorous interview processes.  It all depends on the way the person making the decision, and his or her parent organization, do things.  However I have almost never gotten a 'Sorry, you were not selected' notice.
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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 07:43:38 PM »
I wonder how many DUmmies showed up at an interview with a Che T shirt on and stinking of weed?
Maybe the phone interview where they told the person that they were "the best f**king person for the job and don`t bother to talk to any f**king one else".
Then asked if they were a conservative "cuz I hate them motherf**kers".

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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 07:57:08 PM »
I wonder how many of them have a clue of what a job candidate should do? What do their resumes look like?  Do they follow-up with a thank you for the interview? Do they ask what the next steps are? DUmmies- if you are interviewing, you don't just show up and then hope for the best. Gotta keep your name fresh in the interviewer's mind, without becoming a pest.
If they are relying on the same interview skills they used for after school jobs, they'll never get hired.  Ignorance of interview etiquette is no excuse. Get a book or research online.

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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 08:05:28 PM »
When I hire, I do give the not-hired applicants a call with "I'm sorry we've decided to go in a different direction and wish you the best in finding the right job for you."  Seems like the polite thing to do.  Sometimes I ask the applicant if I can keep their resume in case something opens up in the future that would be perfect for them.

When I've applied for jobs that I then decide not to pursue, I call the hiring manager and tell them I've decided to go in a different direction and wish them the best in finding the right candidate.  I'm most surprised how that simple act is remembered and when I have to work with them later on a project they act so happy we get to work together.

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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 08:15:06 AM »
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Berry Cool  (1000+ posts)        Wed May-26-10 04:13 PM
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How many of you ever even get formal rejections from any employer to whom you apply?

I almost never do. Frequently the employer goes on advertising the job, but othertimes they fill the position and simply never get back to me with a "sorry." I include in this employers who singled me out for a phone interview from hundreds of applicants. I consider that the height of rudeness and inconsideration. It's one thing when you're just one of hundreds, but when they start winnowing down, don't they owe you a no?
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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 08:35:52 AM »
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2Design  (1000+ posts)      Mon May-31-10 07:33 PM
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2. It used to make me angry to see them continue to advertise or tell the newspaper they couldn't find qualified candidates - that one I wrote to them - they finally sent me the reject letter for a job I never applied for - so they are clueless

ones who post on bulletin boards - I tear them down -

They need to act professional or get treat like the unprofessional they are

Am I reading this right?

Let's say 2D goes into a Walmart and sees a posting for landscape help at Juan's landscaping Co., he tears the ad off the board so no one will know about the posting.
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 04:33:31 PM »
Am I reading this right?

Let's say 2D goes into a Walmart and sees a posting for landscape help at Juan's landscaping Co., he tears the ad off the board so no one will know about the posting.

Hummm sounds like someone doesn't like hearing he should get a job.  :rotf:

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Re: primitive wants to get rejected
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 06:42:53 PM »
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2Design  (1000+ posts)      Mon May-31-10 07:33 PM
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ones who post on bulletin boards - I tear them down -

They need to act professional or get treat like the unprofessional they are

What an incredibly selfish DICK!  Of course, he is right at home on DU...
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