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A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« on: July 03, 2010, 09:22:36 PM »
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I am somebody!
   
As some of you may know, I was adopted at birth. Most of you don't know of the toll that takes upon someones soul. Well, I have located my birth father and am in contact with his sister. I have a history! I will share this with you. My paternal grandmother's family dates back to and before the revolution. My paternal grandfather's parents were immigrants. For me this is the story of America!

I began the DU adoption group few years ago, but it fell away. For me it was much too personal to place my feelings about the subject on the internet. But after a view into the ancestry and genealogy group, and the easy way that the terms "bastard" and "illegitimate" were thrown around, I felt it my duty to post this and say that my birth paternal family doesn't use such language--so bite me.

I am somebody. I have a history. I have people.HA!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8686155

I hope to Dog this ungrateful little bastard's adoptive parents never read this thread.

NEWSFLASH, ****tard. Birth is happenstance, adoption is the ultimate choice.

You already had a history and people. You're just pissing all over them because you're a simpering self-absorbed little shit.

Go shove a flaming badger up your ass with a broom handle you stupid ****.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 09:32:54 PM »
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14. LOL, someone actually unrecommended this post
   I can't even imagine the kind of person who would unrecommend this. Amazing.

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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 09:34:25 PM »
It would be kind of amusing if they turned out to be Republicans. :fuelfire:
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 09:37:12 PM »
Ok, honestly I don't get it. What is wrong with someone wanting to know where they came from? It is a chance that most adoptive parents take. I am friends with a woman (and her 2 adopted children) who helped to set up the meeting. I think it must be a natural thing to want to know where you came from.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 09:39:07 PM »
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"THE NEW PHONEBOOKS ARE HERE! THE NEW PHONEBOOKS ARE HERE"!

I am somebody!

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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 10:00:48 PM »
Quote from: soleil on July 03, 2010, 09:37:12 PM
Ok, honestly I don't get it. What is wrong with someone wanting to know where they came from? It is a chance that most adoptive parents take. I am friends with a woman (and her 2 adopted children) who helped to set up the meeting. I think it must be a natural thing to want to know where you came from.

I totally get that, I think I'd want to know too if I was adopted.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 10:07:59 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 03, 2010, 10:00:48 PM
I totally get that, I think I'd want to know too if I was adopted.

I think it must be a human instinct almost. Even if the parents didn't want you, or gave you up for whatever reasons, it has to eat at you to know what people you bi logically came from. Of course there is the hereditary things you'd want to know about, but really outside of that, I think any adopted person would be curious. And not as a slam to their real mom and dad, but just want to know.

The people I am talking about, only the adopted daughter wanted to meet her biological family. The brother came from different parents, but the girl found out that her sister was killed in a car accident while the mom was pregnant with her, and the mother couldn't emotionally keep her and be a good mother. I can't imagine making that decision, but it worked out for the best (I think) for the adopted girl. And she harbors no bad feelings at all. Nor does the adoptive mother. She set the meeting up, knowing the time would come. And now the adopted gal has lunch at least once a week with one of her biological siblings.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 07:03:09 AM »
Quote from: soleil on July 03, 2010, 09:37:12 PM
Ok, honestly I don't get it. What is wrong with someone wanting to know where they came from? It is a chance that most adoptive parents take. I am friends with a woman (and her 2 adopted children) who helped to set up the meeting. I think it must be a natural thing to want to know where you came from.

I don't think that's what set MSB off on this person -

Its the apparent disregard of me b zola's adoptive parents that did it - It almost reads like the cliche "I don't need to listen to you because you're not my real dad !" - total disregard for the people who invested their time and money in the OP , and a public rebuking of their shared history.

Unless it turns out the OP's adoptive parents were horrible people, this isn't called for.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 07:18:23 AM »
Quote from: soleil on July 03, 2010, 09:37:12 PM
Ok, honestly I don't get it. What is wrong with someone wanting to know where they came from? It is a chance that most adoptive parents take. I am friends with a woman (and her 2 adopted children) who helped to set up the meeting. I think it must be a natural thing to want to know where you came from.
Wanting to know your birth parents?

OK.

Shitting on everything your adoptive parents struggled to give you by their own free choice to such an extent that you walk around depressed and consider yourself something other than somebody.

No history, no people, not a somebody until the bio parents were found?  WTF were the adoptive parents doing all those years?

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I don't think that's what set MSB off on this person -

Its the apparent disregard of me b zola's adoptive parents that did it - It almost reads like the cliche "I don't need to listen to you because you're not my real dad !" - total disregard for the people who invested their time and money in the OP ,
and affections

Genuine love is hard to find in the world.

This ungrateful little bastard shit all over theirs

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and a public rebuking of their shared history.

Unless it turns out the OP's adoptive parents were horrible people, this isn't called for.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010, 07:25:17 AM »
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me b zola  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jul-04-10 01:27 AM
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I am somebody!
   
As some of you may know, I was adopted at birth. Most of you don't know of the toll that takes upon someones soul.

Yeah, it must really suck to be raised by loving parents who actually wanted you.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2010, 07:31:58 AM »
absolutely -

It is part of human nature to love and have compassion for others - although this is a weak comparison - its similar when people adopt a pet -- Not that an adopted child is a pet -- that the adoptive family often love their pet as a member of their family, care for them, nurture them, play with them, help them when they are ill, and grieve them when they pass away.


Yet this O.P. implies that none of these feelings are inside of his adoptive parents.. Thats a tall order right there.. Again-- it is possible that they are monsters, but I have the feeling they love him more than the average family loves their pet -- that they love him as much as any parent loves their children- and to rebuke them this way shows me just who the monster is.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2010, 02:54:06 PM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on July 03, 2010, 09:22:36 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8686155

I hope to Dog this ungrateful little bastard's adoptive parents never read this thread.

NEWSFLASH, ****tard. Birth is happenstance, adoption is the ultimate choice.

You already had a history and people. You're just pissing all over them because you're a simpering self-absorbed little shit.

Go shove a flaming badger up your ass with a broom handle you stupid ****.

Tell us how ya really feel Snuggles! lol

I always felt adopting was the ultimate gift! Too bad this little sniveler wasn't left to fester in foster care. Then perhaps he might see past the end of his nose and realize the sacrifice it takes to adopt someone else's child.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2010, 06:15:27 PM »
Quote from: miskie on July 04, 2010, 07:03:09 AM
I don't think that's what set MSB off on this person -

Its the apparent disregard of me b zola's adoptive parents that did it - It almost reads like the cliche "I don't need to listen to you because you're not my real dad !" - total disregard for the people who invested their time and money in the OP , and a public rebuking of their shared history.

Unless it turns out the OP's adoptive parents were horrible people, this isn't called for.

I didn't read the whole thread. I only read what was posted here, so maybe I missed some stuff. If that is the case (being assholish about his parents), then of course I would think that is out of line, unless, like you said, they were crappy parents.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2010, 06:20:05 PM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on July 04, 2010, 07:18:23 AM
Wanting to know your birth parents?

OK.

Shitting on everything your adoptive parents struggled to give you by their own free choice to such an extent that you walk around depressed and consider yourself something other than somebody.

No history, no people, not a somebody until the bio parents were found?  WTF were the adoptive parents doing all those years?
and affections

Genuine love is hard to find in the world.

This ungrateful little bastard shit all over theirs
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I would take the "no history" part to mean, no history about where your blood relatives came from. I find it so fascinating to dig around about my family's history. Not sure it would be the same to dig around about someone who has no blood link to me. Not to knock the wonderful thing the adoptive parents did. There are also diseases (cancer, etc.) that you'd like to know about. Again, I didn't read the whole thread, I only read what was posted here, and if other negative stuff was said, then I take back my comment, but going just on what he said in his OP, I think that is common for adopted kids to feel that way. I don't know. I am not adopted, so I really can't speak for anyone but myself.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2010, 07:36:01 PM »
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23. I have run across other adoptees who feel that way
   
I can't imagine. It is such a mind **** (excuse my language). I wouldn't judge them but they were always the first to make me feel guilty for my drive to know my roots. The best I can think of is Stockholm Syndrome.

Stockholm Syndrome, huh? Yeah Sol, he's giving all kinds of respect for the couple that took him into their home like he was their own!

Sounds to me like they were trying to look out for his interests. It can be a real bitch to find the people who gave you up rather than love you.

But Stockholm Syndrome? What an ungrateful SOB! Wow, the love just oozes from that comment!
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2010, 07:42:05 PM »
Here's another real jewel!

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42. Wow. Thank you very much for your work and your post
   
I was born in 1963 and simply the "victim" of a puritanical mind-set and closed adoption policy. My b-mother was not married to my b-father and was forced to be hidden away in a Catholic home for unwed mothers where I was born. They were allowed to breast feed for up to 3 months until they had to make their decision. My bmother kept me at her breast for the entire 3 months, I think in hope that b-father would come around. Meanwhile, I am "sure" that her parents let her know that if she kept me she would not be welcomed back at home. It was a different time.

I am 100% against closed adoptions, it is so unhealthy for everyone involved. I am even against the trend of any adoptions, with the exception of extreme abuse. There have been so many times that I wished that my bmother had had an abortion. Truly. This really has been a tortured life. I do not mean in any way to disparage the wonderful parents that I was so fortunate to have--they have given me so much. It just seems that it would have been better if I were never born.

But for tonight, I celebrate. I am somebody!

Wow! The couple who spent their lives raising this POS would be so happy to read this one!
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2010, 07:57:49 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on July 04, 2010, 07:42:05 PM
Here's another real jewel!

Wow! The couple who spent their lives raising this POS would be so happy to read this one!

Well, there's nothing to stop the Emile primitive from doing a self-abortion.

It is a free country, after all.
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2010, 08:10:50 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 04, 2010, 07:57:49 PM
Well, there's nothing to stop the Emile primitive from doing a self-abortion.

It is a free country, after all.

I only hope the parents that gave this guy his life, never read what is posted at the DUmp. The amount of BS it would cause could destroy the relationship between them, to say nothing of the pain he could cause them. I doubt this selfish SOB even considered that!

ETA:

Don't get me wrong, but it is much better to involve those that raised you like their own than to do it yourself and inform them as an after thought. Chances are, if he'd had just asked them, because of the love they have, they would more than likely help! Not tell everyone on the net it's more like Stockholm Syndrome!

****in' prick!
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2010, 02:01:12 AM »
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I was born in 1963 and simply the "victim" of a puritanical mind-set and closed adoption policy. My b-mother was not married to my b-father and was forced to be hidden away in a Catholic home for unwed mothers where I was born. They were allowed to breast feed for up to 3 months until they had to make their decision. My bmother kept me at her breast for the entire 3 months, I think in hope that b-father would come around. Meanwhile, I am "sure" that her parents let her know that if she kept me she would not be welcomed back at home. It was a different time.

So...your mother was a 60's hippie free-love slut. No surprise here...

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There have been so many times that I wished that my bmother had had an abortion.
You are one sick twisted sack of shit! Butt hey, move to Oregon where the state will help you to kill yourself for free! Quick! While there is still time!

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Truly. This really has been a tortured life. I do not mean in any way to disparage the wonderful parents that I was so fortunate to have--they have given me so much. It just seems that it would have been better if I were never born.

When a DUmmy is tortured, when evil suffers, the human race is blessed. I do agree however you ungrateful freak, I too wish you were never born!
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2010, 08:44:20 AM »
So, it sounds to me like this adoption tale has turned into another bash conservatives story. How unusual for DU to make everything political  :whatever:
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Re: A Nobody pretends to be Somebody
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2010, 08:57:36 AM »
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It just seems that it would have been better if I were never born.

Yeah, I used to say that when I was an immature child of 7 or 8, but when I became an adult I put away childish things.  Grow up.

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