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Never Let A Good CT Die
« on: July 02, 2010, 11:04:43 AM »
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Rethinking Iran-Contra-By Robert Parry-Sabotaging Jimmy Carter   Updated at 3:51 PM
   
Edited on Fri Jul-02-10 02:50 PM by kpete
Rethinking Iran-Contra

By Robert Parry
July 1, 2010

The conventional view of the Iran-Contra scandal is that it covered the period 1985-86, when President Ronald Reagan became concerned about the fate of American hostages in Lebanon and agreed to secretly sell weapons to Iran’s Islamist government to gain its help in freeing the captives.

Supposedly, the scheme went awry when White House aide Oliver North and other participants got carried away, including North’s decision to divert profits from the arms sales to another one of Reagan’s priorities, the Nicaraguan contra rebels whose CIA assistance had been cut off by Congress.

The Iran-Contra scandal was exposed in fall of 1986 after the shooting down of a North supply plane over Nicaragua and revelations in Lebanon of Reagan’s arms sales to Iran. A White House staff shake-up, including North’s firing, and some wrist-slaps from Congress for Reagan’s alleged inattention to details resolved the scandal, at least that was how Official Washington saw it.

The few dissenters who wouldn’t accept that tidy conclusion – such as Iran-Contra special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh – were mocked and marginalized by the news media, including the Washington Post (which ran an article concluding that Walsh’s consistency in pursuing the scandal was “so un-Washington” and that he would depart as “a perceived loser”).

But an accumulating body of evidence suggests that the traditional view of Iran-Contra was mistaken, that this conventional understanding of the scandal was like starting a novel in the middle and assuming you’re reading the opening chapter.

Indeed, it now appears clear that the Iran-Contra Affair began five years earlier in 1980, with what has often been treated as a separate controversy, called the October Surprise case, dealing with alleged contacts between Reagan’s presidential campaign and Iran.

In view of the latest evidence – and the crumbling of the long-running October Surprise cover-up – there appears to have been a single Iran-Contra narrative spanning the entire 12 years of the Reagan and Bush-41 administration, and representing a much darker story.


And it was not simply a tale of Republican electoral skullduggery and treachery, but possibly even more troubling, a story of rogue CIA officers and Israel’s Likud hardliners sabotaging a sitting U.S. president, Jimmy Carter.


Plus, with Washington’s failure to get at the larger truth about the Iran-Contra Affair, crucial patterns were set: Republicans acted aggressively, Democrats behaved timidly, and the U.S. national news media was transformed from Watergate-era watchdogs, to lapdogs and finally to guard dogs protecting national security wrongdoing.

In that sense, the Iran-Contra/October Surprise scandal represented the missing link in a larger American political narrative covering the sweep of several decades, explaining how the United States shifted away from a nation grappling with epochal problems, from energy dependence and environmental degradation to bloated military budgets and an obsession with empire.

For all his shortcomings and half-measures, President Carter had begun promoting solar and other alternative energies; he pushed conservation programs and worked to reduce the federal deficit; and abroad, he advocated greater respect for human rights and pulled back from the imperial presidency.

...............more, much ,more:
http://consortiumnews.com/2010/063010.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8676253#8676562

Curse that Reagan for keeping Iran and Iraq at each others throats while getting back our hostages in Lebanon and using the money to kill commies in our backyard!

What was he thinking?

And now we find out we were cheated of a 2nd Jimmy Carter term too?!?!?!

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6. Open the books on BCCI... IranContra, Iraqgate, CIA drugrunning and 9/11 will become clearer
   
to the American people.

Heck, looking into BCCI helped sound the alarm on S&Ls.

BCCI?
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2010, 11:22:23 AM »
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BCCI?

The Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a major international bank founded in 1972 by Agha Hasan Abedi, a Pakistani financier. The Bank was registered in Luxembourg. Within a decade BCCI touched its peak. It operated in 78 countries, had over 400 branches, and had assets in excess of US$20 billion, making it the 7th largest private bank in the world by assets.[1][2]

In the late 1980's BCCI became the target of a two-year undercover operation conducted by the US Customs Service. This operation concluded with a fake wedding that was attended by BCCI officers and drug dealers from around the world who had established a personal friendship and working relationship with undercover Special Agent Robert Mazur. After a six month trial in Tampa, key bank officers were convicted and received lengthy prison sentences. Bank officers began cooperating with law enforcement authorities and that cooperation caused BCCI’s many crimes to be revealed.
BCCI came under the scrutiny of regulatory bodies and intelligence agencies in the 1980s due to its perceived avoidance of falling under one regulatory banking authority, a fact that was later, after extensive investigations, proven to be false. BCCI became the focus of a massive regulatory battle in 1991 and was described as a "$20-billion-plus heist".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International

Investigators in the U.S. and the UK revealed that BCCI had been "set up deliberately to avoid centralized regulatory review, and operated extensively in bank secrecy jurisdictions. Its affairs were extraordinarily complex. Its officers were sophisticated international bankers whose apparent objective was to keep their affairs secret, to commit fraud on a massive scale, and to avoid detection."
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 12:25:33 PM »

And now we find out we were cheated of a 2nd Jimmy Carter term too?!?!?!

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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2010, 12:53:04 PM »
Bahahahahahahah   :rotf:
Don't laugh. We're getting Carter's second term right now.
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 01:07:20 PM »
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For all his shortcomings and half-measures, President Carter had begun promoting solar and other alternative energies; he pushed conservation programs and worked to reduce the federal deficit; and abroad, he advocated greater respect for human rights and pulled back from the imperial presidency.

...............more, much ,more:

Human rights for dictators like Chavez and Castro for sure. Israel. not so much! After all it's the Jooooooooooooooooos fault there were hostages in the first place according to you patriotic heros!!!!!!!!

And Clintoon handing over our technology to China and N. Korea was a-okay, right?

Oliver North is considered a hero to his country! When the Dems refused funding to help to stop communism in our own hemisphere, he and Reagan found a way around the pricks! Sounds like heroism to me!
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 01:39:35 PM »
And because everyone needs a good laugh on a Friday afternoon I offer this very dim campfire on a similar subject.  I will just bring it all over to save folk the need to pull on the hazmat suits for a trip over.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8677017

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WI_DEM (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-02-10 12:17 PM
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Accomplishments of President James Earl Carter
 

Food Stamp Reform. The President proposed and signed into law reforms of the food stamp program which make food stamps available to 2.2 million additional Americans. Among the reforms was the elimination of the purchase requirement.

Minimum Wage. The President proposed and signed into law an increase in the minimum wage to enable the lowest paid workers to recover from and keep pace with inflation. The minimum wage would increase to $2.65-an-hour by January 1, 1978, increasing the earnings of 4.5 million workers by $2.2 billion. Successive increases would raise the hourly rate to $2.90 in 1979, $3.10 in 1980, and $3.35 in 1981.

His Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act created 103 million acres (417,000 km²) of national park land in Alaska.

Carter's reorganization efforts separated the Department of Health, Education and Welfare into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services. He signed into law a major Civil Service Reform, the first in over 100 years.

The Civil Service Reform Act (P.L. 95-454, 92 Stat. 111), the first comprehensive civil service law since 1883, fulfilled the campaign promise of President Jimmy Carter to reform the federal civil service.

On Carter's first day in office, January 20, 1977, he fulfilled a campaign promise by issuing an Executive Order declaring unconditional amnesty for Vietnam War-era draft evaders

Under Carter's watch, the Airline Deregulation Act of 1978 was passed, which phased out the Civil Aeronautics Board. He was also somewhat successful in deregulating the trucking, rail, communications, and finance industries

As reaction to the energy crisis and growing concerns over air pollution, Carter also signed the National Energy Act (NEA) and the Public Utilities Regulatory Policy Act (PURPA). The purpose of these watershed laws was to encourage energy conservation and the development of national energy resources, including renewables such as wind and solar energy

Carter convinced the Democratic Congress to create the United States Department of Energy (DoE) with the goal of conserving energy.

During his first month in office, Carter cut the defense budget by $6 billion. One of his first acts was to order the unilateral removal of all nuclear weapons from South Korea and announce his intention to cut back the number of US troops stationed there.

Camp David Accords, one of Carter's most important accomplishments as President. The accords were a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt negotiated by Carter, which followed up on earlier negotiations conducted in the Middle East

Establishment of Diplomatic Relations with China dated January 1, 1979

One of the most controversial moves of Carter's presidency was the final negotiation and signature of the Panama Canal Treaties in September 1977. Those treaties, which essentially would transfer control of the American-built Panama Canal to the nation of Panama, were bitterly opposed by a majority of the American public and by the Republican Party.

A key foreign policy issue Carter worked laboriously on was the SALT II Treaty, which reduced the number of nuclear arms produced and/or maintained by both the United States and the Soviet Union--however, the Treaty was withdrawn after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

Negotiated the release of the Hostages held in Iran without any of them being killed.





 
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1. One of our smartest presidents ever. 
 The GOP had to destroy his presidency. 
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2. he knew the scoop on oil/energy and the people ignored him nt
 
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 Brother Buzz  (1000+ posts)      Fri Jul-02-10 01:39 PM

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3. Even to the apolitical Joe Six-pack, Jimmy did something wonderful
 Jimmy Carter signed into law a bill legalizing home brewing beer in 1978.
 


Back then everyone had to home brew, no one had any money.  Damn are these people stoooooooopid.  And, no Jimmah was not a nuclear engineer.  He wasn't fence post dumb but he was no rocket surgeon either. 
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 01:49:52 PM »
Negotiated the return of the Iran hostages????????? Is this guy series?

Carter got Americans killed tryin' to rescue the hostages during a damn sand storm!
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 04:37:02 PM »
The primitives have been hot to rewrite history as of late, haven't they ? And not just recent either.

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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 05:34:52 PM »
The primitives have been hot to rewrite history as of late, haven't they ? And not just recent either.

The party of Anthony and Cleopatra, they live on DENIAL.  They actually believe FDR was better than sliced bread, the Numero Uno of all presidents.  Last one I showed FDR's Folly puddled up an left in a huff screaming about how could anyone denigrate such a 'great American hero'.  Yup.  They are that indoctrinated.
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2010, 01:57:05 AM »
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-02-10 12:17 PM
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Accomplishments of President James Earl Carter
Then UNDOING those insidious "accomplishments":

[youtube=425,350]EU-IBF8nwSY[/youtube]
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2010, 09:17:03 AM »
Then UNDOING those insidious "accomplishments":

[youtube=425,350]EU-IBF8nwSY[/youtube]

A mole post of that on their thread would create a sea of urine the likes of which would be heretofore unseen on this planet, the primitives would be all "wee wee'd up".  They hate Reagan, juxtapositioning your video would create the perfect  storm of primitive bladder emptying. 

I guess I need to go propagate some new burnable moles, maybe spend a little quality time at the library with the net-book or just visit Starbucks for a latte :lmao:.

Great ad by the way.
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Re: Never Let A Good CT Die
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2010, 06:32:33 PM »
And because everyone needs a good laugh on a Friday afternoon I offer this very dim campfire on a similar subject.  I will just bring it all over to save folk the need to pull on the hazmat suits for a trip over.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8677017

Back then everyone had to home brew, no one had any money.  Damn are these people stoooooooopid.  And, no Jimmah was not a nuclear engineer.  He wasn't fence post dumb but he was no rocket surgeon either. 

Not only that, but some of us were running stills to make fuel for our cars.  "Mother Earth News" had a big write up about "home brew" for motor fuel use....
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