IMHO proof that it was at least LIHOP

[formerlurker]

IMHO proof that it was at least LIHOP
« on: June 02, 2010, 02:22:59 PM »   
was that the secret service with Bush while reading my pet goat let him sit there, in a disclosed and known location for 4 hours insteading of whisking him away to safety, which was their duty.

the fact that they remained calm and did nothing points either to gross incompetence, which is highly unlikely, or everyone already knew it was going to go down and that the president was safe where he was.

remember, on that day none of knew how far reaching the attack was. All of us assumed that anywhere could be targeted.

Only those with advance knowledge would have not been worried.

http://www.oldelmtree.com/discussion/index.php?topic=8532.0


I would give a penny to see who these misfits are IRL.   

[Happy Fun Ball]

Chances are they will greatly resemble your avatar.

[JohnnyReb]

LIHOP...Lets Institute Hussein Obama President...proof of voter fraud.

[Carl]

The 4 hours part is factually inaccurate and yet no one there has brought it up.

[Revolution]

Wasn't it only literally minutes?

[AllosaursRus]

Wasn't it only literally minutes?

"8" I believe. These idiots still believe we killed 3,000 of our own civilians in order to promote killing radical Islamic looney toons! Like Clintoon didn't give us enough reasons by doing jack shit!

Damn, I sure hope they absorb the karma they deserve before having to answer to the one that will hold them responsible!

[miskie]

I thought it was something like seven minutes - but Im not sure -- but anyway, if 'four hours' proves LIHOP, what about Obama and all the oil spill ??

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Michael Moore made much ado about Bush staying seated for 7 minutes while the story was being read. This was used to imply that Bush was out of his depth and too inept to deal with a crisis.*

Bush remained in that the general location of the school for a number of hours before going airborne.

It is this latter part the DUmmies wants to claim as proof of LIHOP.

My question is: if 4 hrs proves Bush knew ahead of time then why the 7 minutes of sitting like a deer caught in the headlights?



* BTW - in an interview with Larry King, John Kerry said he was in Tom Daschle's office with several other legislators when they heard of the 1st plane hitting the towers. He said they all sat there stunned until the second plane hit and they were ordered to evacuate.

The time between the 2 strikes was over 40 minutes.

[Freeper]

Well maybe Bush should have played a round of golf first and then wait a few days to address the nation about the attacks and open up with a shout out and maybe a joke.

 Maybe if he threw white house parties and had concerts then he would have been focused on the issue.

 Maybe if he had blamed Clintoon and put his boot on the neck of the airlines that would show his commitment.

[JohnnyReb]

Well maybe Bush should have played a round of golf first and then wait a few days to address the nation about the attacks and open up with a shout out and maybe a joke.

 Maybe if he threw white house parties and had concerts then he would have been focused on the issue.

 Maybe if he had blamed Clintoon and put his boot on the neck of the airlines that would show his commitment.

Hey, don't be so hard on The Big Zero....he's only doing what all communist leaders do....enjoying the perks of communist leadership at the detriment of the workers.

[Randy]

Well maybe Bush should have played a round of golf first and then wait a bunch of days weeks to address the nation about the attacks and open up with a shout out and maybe a joke.

 Maybe if he threw white house parties and had concerts then he would have been focused on the issue.

 Maybe if he had blamed Clintoon and put his boot on the neck of the airlines that would show his commitment.

Fixed the timeline to a more reasonable representation of what happened recently.  

[Freeper]

Fixed the timeline to a more reasonable representation of what happened recently.  

Actually if I am not mistaken it was a few days before the Fort Hood speech and the shout out. 

[Revolution]

I think this thread should go in the "Ammunition" sub-forum. I don't have the say, but it's just my two cents.

[Ralph Wiggum]

I think this thread should go in the "Ammunition" sub-forum. I don't have the say, but it's just my two cents.

The entire 9/11 forum at the DUmp is essentially ammunition.

[Revolution]

Haven't even bothered to look at it thus far, but may in time. My previous post was just a thought. When I have one, I just tend to post it if I decide it's a decent one.

[Peter3_1]

It takes a good 45 min. to do a quick pre-flight a 747. So, assuming that the AF-1  crew instantly upon hearing the news, and rushed it as fast as humanly possible, ther was NO POINT in running off like a headless chicken. Thje President's behavior was very Presidential that day. Even when he ordered a return to DC when the Sec. Serv. w3anted him to fly around some more or hide somewhere in the Dakotas or whatever.....

W3e are now, what, 65-66-67 day7s i8nto the well blowout and STILL no Jones Act exemptions, no modern skimmers, no modernm shimmer ships, an utter failure of the executive that gets more complete by the day. He makes 43 look like a great president.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I seriously doubt AF1 takes 45 mins to spin up considering its need for security.

[Peter3_1]

PRE FLIGHT is FAR MORE than a simple spinup of 4 fan jets! Preflighting a 747 is on line, look it up and tell me how long it might tske. Preflighting my Piper Colt tooik 10 mim all told.

[formerlurker]

Air Force One has to be ready to go immediately always when the president is traveling.  I can't imagine he would have to wait that long to take off.

[AllosaursRus]

Air Force One has to be ready to go immediately always when the president is traveling.  I can't imagine he would have to wait that long to take off.

Seems to me I saw a History Channel show on this and AF1, 2, and 3 are in a constant state of readiness. In other words as soon as they land they pre-flight them for the next flight.

I think they fly at least 1 decoy at all times but the one the pres is on is the only one with an AF1 call signal. Only air traffic controllers managing the flights knows which is which.

Same goes for Marine 1 when it's a copter.