Since Obama can never win over the right, why has he abandoned the left?

[Ballygrl]

The OP isn't particularly interesting but a few comments in the thread are:

Since Obama can never win over the right, why has he abandoned the left?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x350437

Scuba (1000+ posts)        Tue Jun-22-10 11:14 AM
Original message
Since Obama can never win over the right, why has he abandoned the left?
   
Is there some subtle strategy in place? Has he been co-opted? Did Cheney threaten to eat his children?

It was the left that won the election for him, and he has been on the middle-right since taking office. Why?

riverdale (840 posts)        Tue Jun-22-10 11:16 AM
Response to Original message
1. because this is who he really is
   A good politician, poor leader

ecstatic  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:17 AM
Response to Original message
2. I was hoping the new rules would put an end
   to threads like this.

JTFrog  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jun-22-10 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. I think some are testing the waters before the rules go into effect.

kjackson227 (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Seems that way, doesn't it?

catgirl (1000+ posts)        Tue Jun-22-10 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. It's their last chance to bash Obama

tekisui  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #2
12. How is this thread violative of a rule?   
   Which rule, exactly?

LoZoccolo  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #12
22. The rule against inflammatory threads. n/t

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #22
26. Yes, we all need to be pleasant in Pleasantville

LoZoccolo  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. Nope, you just have to refrain from tired and obnoxious hyperbole for drama drama. n/t

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #27
31. Ahahahahaha!!
   Sorry, but you really should warn a person before making such a hilarious post.

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #12
24. It's violating the rules as interpreted by a particular faction
   Which, again, is why imposing more rules will never work. We'll either have a board so tightly controlled that only three people are allowed to post here, or we'll be constantly inundated by authoritarian axe-grinders complaining that they were promised that no one would ever disagree with them.

ecstatic   (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #12
28. he posted a false opinion as fact
   It just gets really old and really annoying.

tekisui  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. He posted his real opinion as opinion. To be debated.   
   Not to be deleted.

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. It's pretty obvious that some people have no interest in reading differing opinions
   Their clear hope is that the newest version of the rules will finally turn DU into what they've always wanted it to be: an sycophantic echo chamber that gives them the personal validation they likely never receive in real life.

YOY  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #30
33. Furthermore it's talking about policies...not calling Obama a "doodyhead"
   Let's face it...Center left promises were made on the campaign trail...center right was what we got.

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. In all seriousness: for some posters, *there is no difference*
   Any and all criticism of the president is "bashing". Their hope with the new rules is that DU will become a pro-Obama echo chamber.

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #2
21. God forbid you should have to read something you disagree with
   After all, everyone is supposed to be pleasant and agreeable on the internets.

Raine1967  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jun-22-10 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
25. They aren't in place yet.
   I suspect a lot of people will push as far as they can until they are in place -- or not.

This OP seems rather innocuous IMO.

cbayer   (1000+ posts)        Tue Jun-22-10 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
46. Locking
   We consider this an inappropriate attack on the President.

Specifically, we feel if violates this rules: Suggesting that President Obama has perpetrated a "con job" or "fraud," or similarly over-the-top assertions of bad faith.

cbayer
DU Moderator

[delilahmused]

Wow! Proven true every day: scratch a dem find a fascist.

Cindie

[Ballygrl]

Wow! Proven true every day: scratch a dem find a fascist.

Cindie

It seems like the Obamabots really love the new rules and are running wild around the board there, lots of good links from oldelmtree.

[AllosaursRus]

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. It's pretty obvious that some people have no interest in reading differing opinions
   Their clear hope is that the newest version of the rules will finally turn DU into what they've always wanted it to be: an sycophantic echo chamber that gives them the personal validation they likely never receive in real life.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! Now that's funny, right there!

Just WTF do you think the DUmp is?

[BlueStateSaint]

Only one reaction is appropriate . . .

 

(Well, two.)

[Reality vs DU]

Just when you think the DUmp could not get more pathetic......

[jukin]

Sorry you DUmbass, the independent middle won the election for Obama. He has lost them completely.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Prolly because someone finally told him 'Progressives' really AREN'T sufficiently numerous to add to the die-hard Black race-based vote, and come out with a winning number.  Or even anywhere close to one.

[Karin]

Just look at that jaw-dropping OP up there.  "Locking."  "Now go to your room without dessert and be quiet." 

Skinner is going to find out what an empty forum and empty pockets look like.  If you go over to OldElmTree, you can see a huge amount of familiar names.  They name their DU name, too.  These can be seen in the "Hi and Introduce Yourself" section of the forum. 

We may have to keep an eye on that place, as well, as they grow.  I didn't see anything entertaining after a quick perusal, though.  Needs more bodies I think. 

[Ballygrl]

Just look at that jaw-dropping OP up there.  "Locking."  "Now go to your room without dessert and be quiet." 

Skinner is going to find out what an empty forum and empty pockets look like.  If you go over to OldElmTree, you can see a huge amount of familiar names.  They name their DU name, too.  These can be seen in the "Hi and Introduce Yourself" section of the forum. 

We may have to keep an eye on that place, as well, as they grow.  I didn't see anything entertaining after a quick perusal, though.  Needs more bodies I think. 

I've been reading The Crisis forum over there a lot, haven't ventured out of there yet, are the other forums kooky like the DU?

[Karin]

I haven't gotten far.  Just reading for now the intros, to see all the old pals kicked out of the DUmp.  They complain of a place called "PI" and how it was run over with hardcore Marxists, which they didn't like (!), and that such an attempt was made at OET, and it was squashed.  I don't know what PI is, does anybody else?

eta:  I dunno.  They do an awful lot of copy-pasting of other people's published articles.  It's a lot of the content, and very thin on original "thought."   If you do get original work, it's sooooooooooo long winded and blah blah blah and they don't realize that paragraphs are their friends. 

  

[DumbAss Tanker]

I haven't gotten far.  Just reading for now the intros, to see all the old pals kicked out of the DUmp.  They complain of a place called "PI" and how it was run over with hardcore Marxists, which they didn't like (!), and that such an attempt was made at OET, and it was squashed.  I don't know what PI is, does anybody else?

eta:  I dunno.  They do an awful lot of copy-pasting of other people's published articles.  It's a lot of the content, and very thin on original "thought."   If you do get original work, it's sooooooooooo long winded and blah blah blah and they don't realize that paragraphs are their friends. 

  

PI = Progressive Independent; OET = Old Elm Tree (IIRC).

[miskie]

ecstatic   (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #12
28. he posted a false opinion as fact
   It just gets really old and really annoying.

Thought police much ?

Anyway, what the hell is a false opinion ? Is that when a woman asks 'Do these jeans make my butt look fat ?' and even though your opinion is 'Damn thats alotta junk in that trunk !' what you say is 'no dear, you look mighty fine in them jeans !'

[AllosaursRus]

Thought police much ?

Anyway, what the hell is a false opinion ? Is that when a woman asks 'Do these jeans make my butt look fat ?' and even though your opinion is 'Damn thats alotta junk in that trunk !' what you say is 'no dear, you look mighty fine in them jeans !'

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[miskie]

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[AllosaursRus]

Absolutely -- since '95.. Like a dog, I am fully trained & housebroken.  

95?????? Hell I been doin' it since '74 !!!!!!!!!11

You're just a kid!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

DU is d-u-n

This new group think will strain the limits of endurance amongst the zealots and the reactionaries. Each side will be alerting on each other and so many accounts and threads will evaporate the remaining will be disgusted at the blandness of the conversations.

These junkies are addicted to drama and Skinner took away their favorite drug: each other's throats.

[Karin]

These junkies are addicted to drama and Skinner took away their favorite drug: each other's throats.

You win the internetz for a day!  Truer words never spoken.  But if all they do is "How are you?"  "I am fine.  And you?"  what will we do for entertainment? 

[zeitgeist]

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Competion..  Game on Skinner, game on.  Never fear the DLC will keep the lights on. 

[Ballygrl]

PI = Progressive Independent; OET = Old Elm Tree (IIRC).

Oh my, PI is total kooksville, they even have a donate to Gaza link.

[USA4ME]

Skin's island has always been "you must not question Democrats (and more recently, Dear Leader)."  You have to wonder what these quacks who are complaining believed the board to be when they signed on.   Blindly supporting what the Dem party tells you to believe is the cornerstone of liberalism and these attempts to not step in unison cannot and will not be tolerated.  They've shown themselves to be too stupid to know what is expected of them, so they'll fragment into other irrelevant sites and further marginalize themselves.  The primitives, the KosKiddies, the moveon's, and the PuffHosters are the very definition of stupid.  The OET's and PI's make these groups look smart, so there's a reason $kimmer and the others need them out there.

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[Airwolf]

You win the internetz for a day!  Truer words never spoken.  But if all they do is "How are you?"  "I am fine.  And you?"  what will we do for entertainment? 

Someone will stir the pot eventually

[Duke Nukum]

jgraz  (1000+ posts)          Tue Jun-22-10 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #12
24. It's violating the rules as interpreted by a particular faction
   Which, again, is why imposing more rules will never work. We'll either have a board so tightly controlled that only three people are allowed to post here, or we'll be constantly inundated by authoritarian axe-grinders complaining that they were promised that no one would ever disagree with them.

Yes, this is liberalism in a nutshell.  Which is why it is more correctly described as a cult.

[PatriotGame]

Someone will stir the pot eventually

Yea - no matter how hard and how often you scrub the public toilets, some DUmmy bloated with burrito fever will always come along and crap the thing up.
We laugh because we can stand outside the blast radius and watch the DUmmys drown in their self-created cesspools then blame someone else for their failings.