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Cop hits ghetto ho- some defends ho- 5 day old campfire
« on: June 20, 2010, 04:47:14 PM »
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Don't know how this one was missed. It's an eye opener.

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http://www.kirotv.com/video/23904902/index.html

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demoleft  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jun-16-10 08:35 PM
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Seattle police to review training after girl punched   Updated at 2:07 PM
   
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Seattle police are to review training procedures after video of an officer punching a teenage girl circulated widely on US television and online.
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The officer, Ian Walsh, has been transferred temporarily to the department's training unit, Seattle police said.

Police officials said the review of training procedures was not meant as a criticism of the officer's actions but would examine whether training could be improved.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10336500...


"The girls, who were arrested, were not harmed in the incident, police said."

no. i imagine they had a great time there.

I'm only going to post police bashers. Big campfire. It's worth a read.

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2. My 5-yr-old niece has subjected me to far worse attacks
   
and yet somehow I always manage not to punch her in the face.

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58. Shitty cop. He needs more training. Even the Seattle police agree.
   
He put himself in danger by unnecessarily escalating a situation to the point where he was surrounded by potentially dangerous people. Bad cop.

It's hard to see how you can disagree.

Bonobo is all over the place running his mouth off.

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243. Was that the original event . . . "Jaywalking" . . . ???? Wow .... crazy cop --

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246. ... because it was so essential to push this this far to "cite" two jaywalkers...???
   
This copy was looking for an opportunity to arrest these girls --

something wrong with him --

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282. We have seen Big Brother, and he is us. Our society will never accept a man hitting a woman, imo

Welcome to gender equality. You act like a man, expect to get treated like a man.

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12. Wow I'm looking through the replies and..
   
and I can't beleive here on DU we have people who advocate beating women! I guess you all beleive that since it was a police officer punching a woman in the face its ok right? LOL and for what...jay walking? Oh wait its because they were resisting arrest right? She grabbed his arm so he had the right to punch her....oh please.

It's plainly obvious that was not the best way to handle it. He got extra emotional, she said something he didn't like and the alpha male took over him and punched a woman in the face.

I see someone here saying "well she was jay walking she deserved it"...WHAT?! LOL!

You all should be ashamed of yourselves advocating police brutality, because thats exactly what that was plain and simple.

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210. As a woman
   
I don't advocate women attacking men and then being given a pass because of their gender. That's a sexist attitude.

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226. i agree 1000%...disturbing, to say the least, that so many support this cop's actions
   
all for ****ing jaywalking. granted, the girls were out of line, but his response was also out of line.
some assholes here are even speculating about this incident being a "gang ritual," obviously and only because the girls are black. if this same incident happened in beverly hills with two white girls, do you think anyone would be speculating about gang rituals? :puke: i was discussing this case on facebook with a younger cousin and his friends and i was shocked at many of the responses. and these were young black people :wow: many of whom have experienced shoddy treatment from police simply because of the color of their skin. would the cop even stop some in another area for jaywalking? i have my doubts.

i am sick of american and americans. at this point in my life, i'd love to win the lottery and move to a civilized country.

Racist prick. If you were at the scene when this happened, you could have gotten the officer killed.

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238. you don't have to be a democrat, liberal or conservative to sign up here
   
that's why... and it shows. Sociopaths love this behavior... maybe because they are small people who love authoritarian shit.

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29. These cop kids are way to young to have this much power.
   
They are not mature enought to handle it

Much more.
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Re: Cop hits ghetto ho- some defends ho- 5 day old campfire
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 04:55:32 PM »
And forget the fact the kid has apologized to the cop for her behavior.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 04:57:33 PM »
[youtube=425,350]0wLKd58zyjA[/youtube]

Yeah... that tells me there's more to the story than a 90-second video tells us. 

She's been charged with assault.  The officer is still under investigation. --> http://www.seattlepi.com/local/422017_charge19.html
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2010, 05:02:38 PM »
The guy with the camera sounds like he just polished off a few bong hits and was on his way to the store for some munchies.

"Are you serious, man?  Duuuuude."
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 05:04:47 PM »
The guy with the camera sounds like he just polished off a few bong hits and was on his way to the store for some munchies.

"Are you serious, man?  Duuuuude."

I was just going to comment about the guy taking the video and saying "are you serious" he does sound like he's stoned.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 05:07:36 PM »


Yeah... that tells me there's more to the story than a 90-second video tells us. 

She's been charged with assault.  The officer is still under investigation. --> http://www.seattlepi.com/local/422017_charge19.html

I put a link to an unedited vid in the OP. It's quite revealing.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 05:10:40 PM »
The guy with the camera sounds like he just polished off a few bong hits and was on his way to the store for some munchies.

"Are you serious, man?  Duuuuude."

One of the DUmmy's made a reference to this being a initiation to a gang. That's why it was a Hollywood movie. She was the star of the Hollywood movie. Now she can become an official gang banger and get gang banged.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2010, 05:59:33 PM »
[youtube=425,350]0wLKd58zyjA[/youtube]

Yeah... that tells me there's more to the story than a 90-second video tells us. 

She's been charged with assault.  The officer is still under investigation. --> http://www.seattlepi.com/local/422017_charge19.html

This cop is a total idiot -- what in the hell was he trying to accomplish here.  He never had control of this scene, and he's lucky he wasn't seriously injured.   

He needs to go inside and stay there.

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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2010, 06:03:28 PM »
I put a link to an unedited vid in the OP. It's quite revealing.

This cop is honestly the biggest moron -- what in the hell??     He's lucky he wasn't ambushed.  

He is actually having a discussion with the cameraman while trying to cuff someone.   You don't find this kind of stupid often. 


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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2010, 06:24:09 PM »
I wonder why the alleged  victim apologized to the cop.

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2010, 10:26:34 PM »
I wonder why the alleged  victim apologized to the cop.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2010, 02:16:25 PM »
You interfere with the cops makin' arrest, you gets what you deserve. Over the top, maybe, but she assaulted him and got between him and the other girl. The guy with camera keeps askin' him about his closed fist. You know what? You DO NOT interfere in an arrest! Just putting your hand on a cop in this situation is assault!

IMHO he won't get disciplined in this instance. Any time you are outnumbered to this degree, you use whatever force you think is necessary. For the record, I would have called for backup before going that far.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2010, 04:03:21 PM »
This cop is honestly the biggest moron -- what in the hell??     He's lucky he wasn't ambushed.  

He is actually having a discussion with the cameraman while trying to cuff someone.   You don't find this kind of stupid often. 



I'm sure he was also considering the surroundings.  And no, the title of "biggest moron" belongs to the girl who decided she could put her hands on a cop.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2010, 04:07:22 PM »
Gotta love the one hood rat and his, "Are you serious?  Are you serious?"

Nah, he's just playin, you dipshit.  People all eaten up with the dumbass.
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2010, 04:36:32 PM »
Gotta love the one hood rat and his, "Are you serious?  Are you serious?"

Nah, he's just playin, you dipshit.  People all eaten up with the dumbass.

By now, every know place that has any living creatures, knows that guy is an idiot........worldwide.

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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2010, 04:51:13 PM »
By now, every know place that has any living creatures, knows that guy is an idiot........worldwide.



Oh no, there are places where that guy is a scholar!!!! Pitiful ain't it!

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Most of those are where they flash what was considered the "bull shit" sign with their hands during my generation!

You know, your index and pinkie finger extended. Have to be at least 50 I suppose to know that one.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2010, 06:09:41 PM »
I'm sure he was also considering the surroundings.  And no, the title of "biggest moron" belongs to the girl who decided she could put her hands on a cop.

The cop could be dead -- easily ambushed.   He should have maced/pepper sprayed both of the girls and locked up the cameraman.     He was a total idiot who needs to be a desk jockey for a long long while. 

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2010, 06:40:20 PM »
I am a big cop supporter, however, what he did was stupid. He had no backup, and couldn't hardly contain or control the situation. That put him in extreme danger. The girls deserved to be arrested. YOu just can go around hitting people much less police. I am conflicted. I have no problem with him punching her after she's been violent with him, but still, what he did was stupid. At least safety-wise. No offense to women, but if that had been a big man, he would've been screwed. He couldn't control the women hardly.

OTOH, if that had been a woman cop that punched a man for violence, nothing negative would be said (except for please have backup people). Or if it had been a man hitting another man. Violence knows no gender. If you hit a cop, plan on getting it back plus some.

But jay-walking? Really? I can see this being a big problem in big cities I suppose. I kinda thought it was one of those things that cops would let go. But I don't live in an area where it is really a big deal.

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2010, 08:46:34 PM »
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But jay-walking? Really? I can see this being a big problem in big cities I suppose. I kinda thought it was one of those things that cops would let go. But I don't live in an area where it is really a big deal.

I doubt seriously he would have made a big deal out of it unless the little "twat" hadn't done something to escalate the beef.

I'm sure you won't like the vernacular I have used , but it's the only word I know to describe such blatant disregard for authority. The only reason this happened is because she had back up and thought the cop would back down, I frikkin' will bet money on it! If she would have cooperated from the get go, chances are he would have done nothing more than tell her to pay attention.

Anyone want to bet they actually stopped traffic crossing the street is the reason he intervened in the first place?

Kids nowadays are being taught they are entitled, especially those of the minority persuasion.

If we don't agree, we are racist! If we don't vote for a minority, we are racist. If we think you should be held accountable for your actions, and you are not white, we are racist, if we think affirmative action is nothing more than lowering the standards, we are racist.

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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2010, 08:53:59 PM »
I doubt seriously he would have made a big deal out of it unless the little "twat" hadn't done something to escalate the beef.

I'm sure you won't like the vernacular I have used , but it's the only word I know to describe such blatant disregard for authority. The only reason this happened is because she had back up and thought the cop would back down, I frikkin' will bet money on it! If she would have cooperated from the get go, chances are he would have done nothing more than tell her to pay attention.

Anyone want to bet they actually stopped traffic crossing the street is the reason he intervened in the first place?

Kids nowadays are being taught they are entitled, especially those of the minority persuasion.

If we don't agree, we are racist! If we don't vote for a minority, we are racist. If we think you should be held accountable for your actions, and you are not white, we are racist, if we think affirmative action is nothing more than lowering the standards, we are racist.

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She probably would have walked away with a ticket or a warning. She deserved to be arrested. Both of them deserved to be arrested for their actions. Their actions were disgusting. I am more worried about this cop though. He couldn't even control that situation. A very serious situation with weapons, etc., he could have easily been a dead man. You can't always wait for backup, but it is in the best interest of everyone if you can.

I don't go around calling people racists. If they blatantly are a racist, then they should be called on it. But difference of opinion on certain things doesn't make one a racist. Certain actions and thoughts that you are better than someone (or a group) because of your race make someone that. I don't think this was a racist situation. It was a situation of 2 girls acting stupidly and getting way out of hand, and a cop that didn't handle it so well.

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2010, 09:14:39 PM »
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A very serious situation with weapons, etc., he could have easily been a dead man. You can't always wait for backup, but it is in the best interest of everyone if you can.

Well usually, when ya call for back-up, ya wait until your Bud shows up before ya put your ass on the line or into a melee like this one turned out to be!

Don't get me wrong, I do think this guy over reacted, but still, he had no idea who he was dealing with. If the Gal in pink hadn't tried to separate him from his quarry, this whole incident wouldn't have happened.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2010, 09:29:23 PM »
Well usually, when ya call for back-up, ya wait until your Bud shows up before ya put your ass on the line or into a melee like this one turned out to be!

Don't get me wrong, I do think this guy over reacted, but still, he had no idea who he was dealing with. If the Gal in pink hadn't tried to separate him from his quarry, this whole incident wouldn't have happened.

I understand, but he couldn't handle one of them hardly, let alone the both of them. There is no question that the gals were in the wrong to begin with, my concern was how he had no control AT ALL. The crowd, the gals, all of it was completely ouf of his control. It took him way too long to handcuff the girl. Way too long. Like I said, if this had been a big man acting this way, well, I'd hate to see how it would have ended for the cop. I am guessing he is needing to extra training he will be getting. And the gals are needing the jail time they will be getting.

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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2010, 09:39:42 PM »
Bad tactics on the officer's part; however, once she touched him while he was trying to make an arrest.......GAME ON! You do not, under any circumstances, put your hands on a policeman in such a manner without there being consequences.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2010, 10:09:55 PM »
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I understand, but he couldn't handle one of them hardly, let alone the both of them. There is no question that the gals were in the wrong to begin with, my concern was how he had no control AT ALL

I have already stated pretty much the same thing, so where are you going with this?

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The crowd, the gals, all of it was completely out of his control.

There is no way he could have judged this until the shit hit the fan. If they had been law abidin' citizens, he would have had plenty of control. After all, if it had been me or one of my buds, we'd have takin' the ass chewin' and gone on our way. Ya think if it was a Black Cop, maybe they would have just listened? Oh no, that comment must be racist!

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It took him way too long to handcuff the girl. Way too long.

Oh, I guess he shoulda just kicked her ass, huh? Do you seriously believe he couldn't? Get Real! In that instance, I think he showed incredible restraint! As a BondsMan, I guarantee ya, I'd have taken her to the pavement! Would that have made ya happy??????????

I think we agree perhaps he shoulda waited until he had help. Even so, are you suggesting he should not have done his public appointed duty, and let her go in order to let the law breakers have their way?

You're kiddin' right?
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2010, 10:20:22 PM »
I have already stated pretty much the same thing, so where are you going with this?

There is no way he could have judged this until the shit hit the fan. If they had been law abidin' citizens, he would have had plenty of control. After all, if it had been me or one of my buds, we'd have takin' the ass chewin' and gone on our way. Ya think if it was a Black Cop, maybe they would have just listened? Oh no, that comment must be racist!

Oh, I guess he shoulda just kicked her ass, huh? Do you seriously believe he couldn't? Get Real! In that instance, I think he showed incredible restraint! As a BondsMan, I guarantee ya, I'd have taken her to the pavement! Would that have made ya happy??????????

I think we agree perhaps he shoulda waited until he had help. Even so, are you suggesting he should not have done his public appointed duty, and let her go in order to let the law breakers have their way?

You're kiddin' right?

I am not suggesting anything of the sort. He showed that he couldn't properly control the situation. Not only the women, but the crowd could have gotten unruly. They were on their way to that.

I support all cops. Well, the ones who are in it for the right reasons. My brother was a cop, worked for the MBN, taught at the police academy and is now a state trooper. I support anyone who risks their life trying to save mine and others for the common good.

This cop, while he had good intentions, didn't handle this well at all. He isn't to blame for getting beat on and defending himself, however, he showed AT LEAST TO ME, that he couldn't control the situation well. And although, I know you don't care, but my cop brother thinks the same.