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« on: June 10, 2010, 12:00:42 PM »
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BanTheGOP  (376 posts)        Thu Jun-10-10 12:52 PM
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We are f#(%!#g doomed! 
 I cannot believe that, in one short year, the republicans are about to take over to destroy humanity and the planet.

And we let it happen.

WE F#(%!#G LET IT HAPPEN!!!

We are going to lose the House. We are going to lose the Senate. We are going to lose California, Illinois, and several other states.

Why?

Because we HAD THE BOOT on the throat of the republican party...but we took it off. WE TOOK IT OFF!!

 . . . more craziness follows.

My favorite line of the whole thing:
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WE FIDDLED WHILE DICK CHENEY BURNED THE GULF DOWN!
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Oh -- and he wants to stop the elections again . . .  :mental:

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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 12:08:09 PM »
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BanTheGOP  (376 posts)        Thu Jun-10-10 12:52 PM
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We are f#(%!#g doomed! 
 I cannot believe that, in one short year, the republicans are about to take over to destroy humanity and the planet.

And we let it happen.

WE F#(%!#G LET IT HAPPEN!!!

We are going to lose the House. We are going to lose the Senate. We are going to lose California, Illinois, and several other states.

Why?

Because we HAD THE BOOT on the throat of the republican party...but we took it off. WE TOOK IT OFF!!

 . . . more craziness follows.

Umm, looks like your guy is destroying humanity and the planet, but please continue to rant, I like being amused.
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"The nation that couldn’t be conquered by foreign enemies has been conquered by its elected officials" odawg Free Republic in reference to the GOP Elites who are no difference than the Democrats

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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 12:13:25 PM »
Nutjob said this too:

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BOTTOM LINE: We are going to lose the HOUSE in November.
We are going to lose the SENATE in November.

THEN WTF ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO????

Sit back and watch the adults do the right thing.

BTW you can only hope the Republicans take over in the mid-terms because that's the only chance Obama has of being re-elected since Americans like a divided Government. The mid-terms in 94 saved Clinton's 2nd term.
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 12:15:24 PM »
Nutjob said this too:

Sit back and watch the adults do the right thing.

BTW you can only hope the Republicans take over in the mid-terms because that's the only chance Obama has of being re-elected since Americans like a divided Government. The mid-terms in 94 saved Clinton's 2nd term.

But, milady, Clinton was smart and co-opted a lot of the new Republican majority's positions.  I don't think the Obamessiah is that flexible to do that.  He's a rigid idealogue.  He won't bend a millimeter.
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 12:17:00 PM »
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3. Are you really a democrat or are you just a Republican pretending to be one?
   Seriously, I don't know any liberals that are into banning the GOP or 'stopping elections', nor socializing everything.

This is nuts.

I was thinking the OP was a mole too LOL.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 12:19:43 PM »
I was thinking the OP was a mole too LOL.

Probably -- he's very entertaining though!  :-)
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 12:24:00 PM »
This guy certainly is the craziest creature at the DUmp.  I think he's going to make my list at EOY.  

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We could have COMPLETELY socialized ALL industy in the US, ESPECIALLY the energy industry. But by playing "pattycake pattycake ba-ker's pie" the whole freakin' time, Dick Cheney's Halliburton got away with murder UNTIL their scheme resulted in the oil disaster in the Gulf that will kill dozens of species and destroy any semblance of an economy in Louisiana (not that those republicanist bastards don't deserve it).

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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts)      Thu Jun-10-10 01:00 PM
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7. I don't want to ban republicans. I want to see them suffocate in their own crap
 Teabaggers is a good start.

The loon also gets accused of being a mole.  

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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 12:44:17 PM »
But, milady, Clinton was smart and co-opted a lot of the new Republican majority's positions.  I don't think the Obamessiah is that flexible to do that.  He's a rigid idealogue.  He won't bend a millimeter.

A part of me hopes that the American people will realize that he doesn't deserve to be voted in for a 2nd term, but after what I saw during the 2008 election, people being bamboozled by this Hope and Change stuff? Americans need to earn back my trust.
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 12:56:25 PM »
If you got an hour or so to kill, just read his entire blog history...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BanTheGOP

If he's a mole, he couldn't have lasted this long, in my opinion. He's more likely a Pitt mole than independent.
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 01:05:34 PM »
A part of me hopes that the American people will realize that he doesn't deserve to be voted in for a 2nd term, but after what I saw during the 2008 election, people being bamboozled by this Hope and Change stuff? Americans need to earn back my trust.

Not many O' Bammabuts around here, but there are a few.

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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 01:11:33 PM »
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18. No, it's not. It's a reflection of reality that cannot be turned back.   Updated at 12:52 PM
   
Yes, I'm having a bad day. But it still doesn't turn back the idiotic, potentially fatal mistakes we made once we took over the government for the people, and now the moneyed masses are about to steal it back.
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20. Yawn
   

Same shit I've been hearing for 40 years now about both sides of the aisle.

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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 01:18:42 PM »
A part of me hopes that the American people will realize that he doesn't deserve to be voted in for a 2nd term, but after what I saw during the 2008 election, people being bamboozled by this Hope and Change stuff? Americans need to earn back my trust.

I feel the same way. Too many people allowed themselves to be swooned by what is essentially a cult of personality. And to think, they fell for it despite not being nearly as total as the cult of personalities in communist countries and in spite of his incompetency being self-evident.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 01:25:30 PM »
I feel the same way. Too many people allowed themselves to be swooned by what is essentially a cult of personality. And to think, they fell for it despite not being nearly as total as the cult of personalities in communist countries and in spite of his incompetency being self-evident.

Absolutely. This next election has a '94 feel about it, but it is far more different in my opinion.

One of the primary differences that the 94 Congress had to put up with was the entrenched Mainstream Media running the entire spectrum of media output. Only local stations put up any semblance of balance, but the national media was predominantly center-left. No Internet as well. Finally, the Congress was a bunch of neophytes, many of them who had visions of Reaganism in their heart. The biggest problem with them is they looked at the election as a climactic goal in itself, NOT as the BEGINNING of a long, hard struggle that needed to be initiated.

Clinton was NOT a centrist by any stretch of the imagination, but he was a masterful political whore. Gingrich was too much of a politician himself to maintain a conservative stature. When the dems played the Budget card, they banked on the fact the public, goaded by their media sycophants, would blame the GOP congress, and this won the day for Clinton and the dems.

The lesson learned: The election is NOT the ultimate goal. It is merely the acceptance of a job offer, but the job must be done.

This time around, there will be far more in play. And frankly, I sense far less effectiveness of a national media in affecting congressional policy than in 95 and 96. US citizens who have, frankly, never seen the threat of American exceptionalism challenged until the 2008 socialist takeover attempt, will not forget the feeling of dread, of unsurety anytime soon.

Obama is one and done. And I DO find it interesting that Ban agrees with my own assessment of the Congressional turnover that will occur in 2010. He may be crazy and insane, but he's not that big a fool...
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 01:41:19 PM »
Their pain is sooooooooooooo delicious.   :evillaugh:
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 02:10:04 PM »
I have a fear that many Americans, especially in "Blue" states, are far to addicted to Federal Pork. Murtha's seat comes to mind. That guy was a complete crook, yet another crook took his seat.

Until we are obliged to wean ourselves from Federal handouts and live within our means, I don't see much change in the status quot.

Government needs trimmed starting in our own backyards! There are far too many do nothings in local government. Get a list of jobs provided in your own county and you will be disgusted on how many make no sense at all or are redundant 2 or 3 times over!
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 02:20:19 PM »
Not many O' Bammabuts around here, but there are a few.

Belongin' to the "Cave" keeps me from slappin' 'em upside the head when I see them and askin', "What did you do???" "What did you frikkin' do????"

I have a client who was a Republican her whole life, when she retired she hooked up with an environmental group, all of a sudden she changed, she registered independent and voted for Obama, I swear, talking to her was like talking to a zombie during the 2008 election, I figured by this point she saw the light but no, she still supports him even though her biggest gripe about Bush was spending.

BTW I always use the term "smack them upside the head" :lmao: and I just saw you use it LOL.
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2010, 02:28:39 PM »
Until we are obliged to wean ourselves from Federal handouts and live within our means, I don't see much change in the status quot.

Guess what?  We're just about out of other people's money to stock the public slop trough with.  Currently, government debt is 90% of the GDP, and factoring in business and personal debt to that figure, we're in over our head by 31/2 times GDP.  One way or another, that weaning is going to happen in my lifetime, and unless the American people collectively grow a pair PDQ, there will be no weaning, just cold turkey.
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2010, 02:31:29 PM »
Guess what?  We're just about out of other people's money to stock the public slop trough with.  Currently, government debt is 90% of the GDP, and factoring in business and personal debt to that figure, we're in over our head by 31/2 times GDP.  One way or another, that weaning is going to happen in my lifetime, and unless the American people collectively grow a pair PDQ, there will be no weaning, just cold turkey.

And the civil war starts.  It will be horrible, especially for those accustomed to the public teat.
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2010, 02:39:47 PM »
And the civil war starts.  It will be horrible, especially for those accustomed to the public teat.

Much as nobody in their right mind (and I'm left handed, so I'm definitely in my right mind) wants to see another American civil war, I don't want my son to be forced into indentured servitude by the spendthrift idiots and con artists of his own government even more.

I will do what must be done.
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2010, 02:40:47 PM »
NO worries, it will never get that far barring an externally-caused catastrophe.

Frankly, I hope we see a flat tax sometimes in the next generation. Every GOP candidate for congress that I've called (over 225 so far) has expressed an interest in seeing it happen. Yes, I know politicians are whores, but this is a near-unanimous, unsolicited sentiment I'm hearing across the board.

If we have a flat tax, and couple it with a strict spending regimen and a devolution of benefits from federal to state control, we generally won't have a problem. Keep in mind that a 15% flat tax would return about 3 to 4 times the same revenue in a similar economic period; it would probably return closer to 5 times as much in this economy.

Of course, our next course of action is ensuring that the states don't become too greedy of their own merits as well.

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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2010, 02:51:28 PM »
NO worries, it will never get that far barring an externally-caused catastrophe.



Son, I'll just about guarantee that there isn't a politician on any side of any aisle that has the stones to do what is necessary to prevent the US economy from going into the toilet for a long, long time.  We're talking in the neighborhood of 50% reductions in social and welfare spending across the board, huge hikes in eligibility ages and income requirements for Socialist Security and Medicare, draconian cuts in foreign aid money, massive cuts in corporate and investment taxation and that's just to bring the budget into shape only to keep pace with the growing demands for interest payments on our debt.  That doesn't even go into what is required to RETIRE the existing debt we owe. 

You cannot name for me 2 candidates anywhere with the stones to openly campaign on reducing the size of government by half, because every last pollster hack out there will tell him there's no possible way for him to get elected on a platform like that.
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2010, 03:04:47 PM »
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Son, I'll just about guarantee that there isn't a politician on any side of any aisle that has the stones to do what is necessary to prevent the US economy from going into the toilet for a long, long time.

I assume you mean the "Son" from a derogatory standpoint as opposed to an actual age-difference standpoint as I'm well north of 50.

I agree to a point that a singular politician could not do this. But this is a sentiment that most conservative/libertarian candidates hold from my conversations with candidates (or their official representatives). Granted, I did ask leading economic questions with regard to the effects of tax rates on certain individuals, but the sentiment behind the answers did not sound politically contrived.

And of course, a flat tax will not occur anytime soon. Probably not until the 20's, maybe nearer to 2030. But this will be the election that will start the pragmatic conversation and basis for providing the flat tax in the first place.

More probably, gradation will become less and less apparent, and hopefully we can knock the highest rates down to the 20's during Palin's or Romney's first term. But the OVERALL opinion I have of the new Congress is that the GOP will consist of more conservative/Libertarian and less centrist (RE: Closet socialist) representatives; hence, flat-tax proponency can only go up.
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2010, 03:15:58 PM »
I assume you mean the "Son" from a derogatory standpoint as opposed to an actual age-difference standpoint as I'm well north of 50.

I agree to a point that a singular politician could not do this. But this is a sentiment that most conservative/libertarian candidates hold from my conversations with candidates (or their official representatives). Granted, I did ask leading economic questions with regard to the effects of tax rates on certain individuals, but the sentiment behind the answers did not sound politically contrived.

And of course, a flat tax will not occur anytime soon. Probably not until the 20's, maybe nearer to 2030. But this will be the election that will start the pragmatic conversation and basis for providing the flat tax in the first place.

More probably, gradation will become less and less apparent, and hopefully we can knock the highest rates down to the 20's during Palin's or Romney's first term. But the OVERALL opinion I have of the new Congress is that the GOP will consist of more conservative/Libertarian and less centrist (RE: Closet socialist) representatives; hence, flat-tax proponency can only go up.

No I meant "son" from the standpoint that it seems almost impossible to me that you can have been around politics as long as you claim to, and can still believe that there's a pony somewhere beneath this pile of shit we're being served by BOTH parties.

I didn't mean to imply that no "singular" politician could make the changes that are necessary to keep the country afloat and this people off of each other's throats.  I mean that there isn't ANY POLITICIAN, ANYWHERE that WOULD do it, because every pollster, lobbyist, advisor and party leadership out there is furiously whispering in the ear of anybody who might that it's the wrong path to go down.  None of them will do it; not the incumbents, sure as shit not the newbies currently running for the incumbents seats in November, because none of them believe that the US is really as deep in the shit as we are.  You might be able to find one or two who give the right lip service to cutting the size of government, but when push comes to shove, none of them will propose legislation for it, and none of them will back any legislation authorizing it because they are too deeply addicted to the power that a big government gives them over the lives of individual American citizens.
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2010, 03:25:35 PM »
Guess what?  We're just about out of other people's money to stock the public slop trough with.  Currently, government debt is 90% of the GDP, and factoring in business and personal debt to that figure, we're in over our head by 31/2 times GDP.  One way or another, that weaning is going to happen in my lifetime, and unless the American people collectively grow a pair PDQ, there will be no weaning, just cold turkey.

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We will be in the same situation as Greece within seven to ten years by Judd Gregg's estimate. That is not even taking into account the fact that the democrats will vote to tax and spend as much as they can before November.
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Re: We are f#(%!#g doomed!
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2010, 04:33:38 PM »
But, milady, Clinton was smart and co-opted a lot of the new Republican majority's positions.  I don't think the Obamessiah is that flexible to do that.  He's a rigid idealogue.  He won't bend a millimeter.
And, for some reason, the Republican Party gave us Bob Dole who ran poor campaign.
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