Ari Fleischer: Fire Helen Thomas

[Attero Dominatus]

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The Straight Story  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:24 AM
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Ari Fleischer: Fire Helen Thomas
   
Ari Fleischer: Fire Helen Thomas


Longtime White House scribe Helen Thomas caused more than a few eyebrows to perk up when video surfaced on Friday of her declaring that Jews should "get the hell out of Palestine" and go back to Germany and Poland.

Captured by Rabbi David Nesenoff of RabbiLive.com, the footage made the rounds on mostly conservative and neoconservative sites, with some private complaints that her comments weren't getting wider play.

Thomas on Friday apologized in a written statement, saying she deeply regretted the comments -- which were offered, ironically, during the White House's Jewish Heritage Celebration.

But even as she was trying to walk back the remarks, calls for her firing mounted. Among the more vocal was former Bush Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, who claimed to have a close relationship with Thomas when he was manning the daily briefings.

"She should lose her job over this," Fleischer said in an email. "As someone who is Jewish, and as someone who worked with her and used to like her, I find this appalling."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/04/ari-fleischer-...
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ananda  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:25 AM
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1. I hate to say it...
   
... but I think Helen Thomas' career is toast.

This is all so sad.
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Sad? It would be great if Helen Thomas was forced to quit!

Dinger  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:30 AM
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3. Yup, Just As I Thought
   
Someone asks REAL questions of this administration, and within a short period of time, the dogs come out. ****ing disgusting. (Not Helen either) "You're with us or you're against us." Makes me sick. I don't care for Helen's comment, but when DUers start referencing fleischer, well, I guess it's a matter of time . . .
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stray cat  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:31 AM
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5. jews should get the hell out of palestine is now seen as a question?
   
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wtmusic  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:37 AM
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12. It's the "going back to Germany and Poland" part which is inexcusable. nt
   
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notesdev  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:37 AM
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13. And not only that
   
but to be sent back to the very lands where the concentration camps they fled were constructed and operated.

The undeniable truth is that a great majority of those who oppose Israel would be most satisfied if there were no more Jews at all. Few would admit it, but all they do and say points in the same direction, and it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out what the endgame is.
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Facts. At the DUmp. Do you like pepperoni or hawaiian?

wtmusic  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:40 AM
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19. Your "undeniable truth" is horseshit
   
and you might be surprised to learn that many Jews oppose Palestinian occupation.

http://www.jewsagainsttheoccupation.org /

They must no longer want to exist.
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Different Jews have different opinions. So what? It does not change the fact that Israel has a right to exist.

MH1  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 02:36 PM
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67. What other 'group'
   
had land taken away from others to give them their own state, and have significant amounts of US tax dollars defending their appropriation of the territory?
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notesdev  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 03:18 PM
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73. That's an easy one
   
The United States, of course. We wiped out nearly a whole continent full of people. Australia and New Zealand also qualify. More recently, I'm pretty sure we did just that to Serbia not long ago.

Now if you would like to extend the question to those where US tax dollars are not involved, there's hardly a country on the planet not guilty of the charge. And please note, that the objections to Israel are very rarely about US tax dollars (an objection I support, by the way). People aren't coming out to say "why is the US supporting Israel with its tax dollars", they are coming out to say the Israelis should act this way or that - in the face of unrelenting existential threats from the very people they are called on to be nice to.
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crikkett  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 01:03 PM
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60. What bullshit. That "truth" is deniable alright
   
Furthermore your own generalizations speak reams about your own prejudice.

The undeniable truth is that a great majority of those who oppose Israel would be most satisfied if there were no more Jews at all. Few would admit it, but all they do and say points in the same direction, and it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out what the endgame is.


This is absolute bullshit.

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Raineyb  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 01:06 PM
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62. Bullshit.
   
I don't support any apartheid government and that certainly includes Israel.
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Oh those poor oppressed Palestinians!

LaurenG  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 03:51 PM
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78. Woah! What kind of facts are you basing your argument on?
   
If you can call it that. It sounds like a "poor me" post. I know no one who holds views as crass as yours, no one. You flipped this sucker out of the box and so I hope you are ready to be peppered with your own bs. Black and white thinking, us against them and now no more Jews at all? Idiocy abounds...
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Mari333  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:26 AM
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2. ari fleischer can go **** himself.
   
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Darth_Kitten  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:38 AM
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15. Free speech?
   
Edited on Sun Jun-06-10 11:39 AM by Darth_Kitten
Were widdle Israel's feelings hurt? Wonder how the family of the murdered American feel? The families of the others killed?
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Of course she has a right to free speech. But she should still be put to pasture.

PCIntern  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 12:16 PM
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47. BRILLIANT RETORT!
   
"Go back where you came from." that's the best she could do?

Very constructive...and helpful.

Here's an idea: why don't the Israelis just move to...say, Mars. Oh yes, in a few years they'll have it up and running and all these folks would be screaming that that's their homeland and they want it back.
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CBGLuthier  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:39 AM
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17. When white people conquered america the world was an ignorant place
   
I would have hoped by the 1940's we would have had the sense not to destroy one population in favor of another. But no, the world is stupid. Always has been. Always will be. the worm turns and now Israel is as fascist as anything they were ever victimized by.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Jun-06-10 11:39 AM
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16. And if Helen had said...
   
"All those black people should go back to the plantations and cotton fields" would you be so forgiving? The sentiment is the same - blatantly racist at best
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Laughing Mirror  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:42 AM
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23. Black people are not occupying a people's lands and trying to obliterate them through starvation
   
So how can you make that comparison?
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cornermouse  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 03:39 PM
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74. Baloney.
   
She said nothing of the sort. What she said was insensitive and without forethought but she did not advocate the holocaust in any way.
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She wanted the Jews to be moved back to where six million of them were murdered by the National Socialists.

Politicalboi  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 02:51 PM
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71. **** you Ari
   
Bush didn't lose his job for torture. **** you and the horse you came in on. Who needs to hear from this asshole, and what he thinks.
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When did Bush turn people into human pincushions with an Iron Maiden? Never, that's what I thought. Uday Hussein did though! http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,444889,00.html

Sebastian Doyle  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 03:44 PM
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77. Ari FLIEscher can go **** himself
   
Helen Thomas made one stupid statement in 90 years. Ari makes one every time he opens his ****ing lying mouth.
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[The Village Idiot]

lol.

About what I would expect from the DUmp

[Chris_]

Maybe they can send her flowers.

[NHSparky]

Dinger  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Jun-06-10 11:30 AM
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3. Yup, Just As I Thought
  
Someone asks REAL questions of this administration, and within a short period of time, the dogs come out. ****ing disgusting. (Not Helen either) "You're with us or you're against us." Makes me sick. I don't care for Helen's comment, but when DUers start referencing fleischer, well, I guess it's a matter of time . . .
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Defending Helen in one breath, and condemning the administration in another.  Welcome to Bizarro World.

Wasn't it you libtard DUmb****s who were bitching about the "chill wind" of censorship under the Bush administration?  And look what's happened over the past 18 months, from the FCC, to the administration putting out its own interviews, to shutting the media out of those "open discussions" we were supposed to be getting....

And as far as the rest of you, I dare say that most of you are too ****ing stupid to live without serious assistance.  We be grateful if you removed yourselves from the gene pool.  NOW.

[cavegal]

lbagley@hearst.com this is Hearst email... If she loses her Hearst Press Pass she loses her job in the White House press room!  Please feel free to email them !!

[Ballygrl]

Let me get this straight, according to some DUmmies, since Helen apologized it's OK, yet if it was a Republican who made that type of comment say about a minority or a homosexual, not only would it be unforgiving, but they would be labeled racist and homophobic, so if Helen makes a comment like that then why isn't she anti-semitic? only an anti-semite would say something like that.

[The Village Idiot]

Was it a big bonfire?

[Attero Dominatus]

Let me get this straight, according to some DUmmies, since Helen apologized it's OK, yet if it was a Republican who made that type of comment say about a minority or a homosexual, not only would it be unforgiving, but they would be labeled racist and homophobic, so if Helen makes a comment like that then why isn't she anti-semitic? only an anti-semite would say something like that.

Leftism would not exist without double standards. 'Some animals are more equal than others.'

And then there is the audacity that they believe Helen's apology was genuine. 'I'm sorry' from a leftist is 'I still mean it but now I am covering my ass.'

[Zeus]

Let me get this straight, according to some DUmmies, since Helen apologized it's OK, yet if it was a Republican who made that type of comment say about a minority or a homosexual, not only would it be unforgiving, but they would be labeled racist and homophobic, so if Helen makes a comment like that then why isn't she anti-semitic? only an anti-semite would say something like that.

strange little tidbit, Helen Thomas is the daughter of Lebonese immigrants.

[Randy]

Let me get this straight, according to some DUmmies, since Helen apologized it's OK, yet if it was a Republican who made that type of comment say about a minority or a homosexual, not only would it be unforgiving, but they would be labeled racist and homophobic, so if Helen makes a comment like that then why isn't she anti-semitic? only an anti-semite would say something like that.

I was thinking along the same lines with Jimmy the Greek in mind specifically. All he did was state a fact that made some folks uncomfortable and was run off of TV on a rail. Helen's was rabidly racist but it's OK because she made a fake apology?

[NHSparky]

You kiddin me?  These are the same douchenozzles who jumped down Trent Lott's throat with BOTH feet about half a second after he made his statements, which weren't even close to the level of Thomas.

[zeitgeist]

On a more positive note:

Helen Thomas will one day be one of the 72 virgins some Muzzi martyr  receives 'cuse she so ugly even two bags and a ball gag wouldn't have been enough.

[Chris_]

Don't those libtards get upset when Americans tell illegal immigrants to get the hell out of our country?

[Ballygrl]

You kiddin me?  These are the same douchenozzles who jumped down Trent Lott's throat with BOTH feet about half a second after he made his statements, which weren't even close to the level of Thomas.

Lott praises Thurmond..............bad

Dodd praises Byrd....................good

[Ballygrl]

Don't those libtards get upset when Americans tell illegal immigrants to get the hell out of our country?

More hypocrisy from the left!

[Zeus]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedi...y.html?showall

Nine Speakers, the agency that represents Helen Thomas, has dropped her as a client. This comes in the wake of controversial remarks on the Middle East.

The notice, obtained by POLITICO:

It is with a heavy heart that Nine Speakers, Inc. announces its resignation as the agent for Helen Thomas, Dean of the White House Press Corps.

Ms. Thomas has had an esteemed career as a journalist, and she has been a trailblazer for women, helping others in her profession, and beyond.

However, in light of recent events, Nine Speakers is no longer able to represent Ms. Thomas, nor can we condone her comments on the Middle East.

Nine Speakers will continue to enthusiastically represent all of our other current and future clients.

[DixieBelle]

Maybe they can send her flowers.

Too funny! I wonder if that thread is still here in the DUmpster??? Did it make it over here?

[miskie]

Does DU realize that Thomas telling Israelis to 'go home' in reference to Palestine, is the same as Arizona telling it's illegal visitors to 'go home' ?

Because it pretty much is.

Damn Teabagging Helen Thomas.... 

[Lord Undies]

Why is anyone surprised by this bit of candid honesty from that old Arab woman?

Helen Thomas is human garbage.  She always has been.

[cavegal]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedi...y.html?showall

Nine Speakers, the agency that represents Helen Thomas, has dropped her as a client. This comes in the wake of controversial remarks on the Middle East.

The notice, obtained by POLITICO:

It is with a heavy heart that Nine Speakers, Inc. announces its resignation as the agent for Helen Thomas, Dean of the White House Press Corps.

Ms. Thomas has had an esteemed career as a journalist, and she has been a trailblazer for women, helping others in her profession, and beyond.

However, in light of recent events, Nine Speakers is no longer able to represent Ms. Thomas, nor can we condone her comments on the Middle East.

Nine Speakers will continue to enthusiastically represent all of our other current and future clients.

But she still has her White House job. Unfortunately Hearst should fire her, then she would lose the White House job.

[AllosaursRus]

Bummer won't allow Hearst to fire the old bag, he has the same beliefs, I'm sure!

[Karin]

I was curious about what the DUmp loons would say about this.  I see that the typical learned, thoughtful arguement is along the lines of Hannah Bell, when she discusses economics.

"Bullshit."  Isn't that brilliant? 

[thundley4]

I don't remember where I saw it, but there is an interesting way to spell her name.

Helen THamas.

[Godot showed up]

One guy--notesdev-- spoke the plain truth about the mainstreaming of unadulterated anti-Semitism as anti-Israelism, and got pounced on by the hideous Thomas clones at the DU (as Attero predicted).

Come over here, notesdev, and imbibe some sanity and breathe some clean air for a change. If you could post that, you're not one of the irredeemables.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask: what's this about "eating pizza" at the DU? I take it it's not a good thing.

[Mike220]

By the way, I've been meaning to ask: what's this about "eating pizza" at the DU? I take it it's not a good thing.

It means' getting banned. They put up an avatar of a tombstone for you. Getting pizza'd, eating pizza, getting the granite pizza are all plays on Tombstone pizza.