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'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
« on: March 20, 2008, 06:22:27 AM »
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'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The owner of a famous cheesesteak shop did not discriminate when he posted signs asking customers to speak English, a city panel ruled Wednesday.
In a 2-1 vote, a Commission on Human Relations panel found that two signs at Geno's Steaks telling customers, "This is America: WHEN ORDERING 'PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH,'" do not violate the city's Fair Practices Ordinance.

Shop owner Joe Vento has said he posted the signs in October 2005 because of concerns over immigration reform and an increasing number of people in the area who could not order in English.

Vento has said he never refused service to anyone because they couldn't speak English. But critics argued that the signs discourage customers of certain backgrounds from eating at the shop.

Commissioners Roxanne E. Covington and Burt Siegel voted to dismiss the complaint, finding that the sign does not communicate that business will be "refused, withheld or denied."

In a dissenting opinion, Commissioner Joseph J. Centeno said he thought the signs did discourage some customers.

"The sign appeared immediately above another sign that had the following words: 'Management Reserves the Right to Refuse Service,'" Centeno wrote.

Geno's and its chief rival across the street, Pat's King of Steaks, are two of the city's best known cheesesteak venues. A growing number of Asian and Latin American immigrants have moved into the traditionally Italian neighborhood in recent years.

Vento had threatened to go to court if he lost. His attorney, Albert G. Weiss, said he was "pleasantly surprised" by Wednesday's decision.

"We expected that this was not going to go our way," Weiss said.

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...and it only took 2 1/2 years to decide.   :mental:
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Re: 'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2008, 07:28:38 AM »
It discouraged some patrons never refused em................ :thatsright:
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Re: 'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2008, 05:29:33 PM »
Surprised and happy that the ruling went his way.
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Re: 'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2008, 06:22:03 PM »
That is great to hear.  I know my parents would like to do the same thing with their UPS Store, but I'm pretty sure company policy prevents them from doing so. :whatever:
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Re: 'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2008, 05:12:18 PM »
I wonder if a place of business could just post a sign that says English Spoken Here without any sort of qualifier that the customers should also?

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Re: 'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2008, 05:17:57 PM »
I wonder if a place of business could just post a sign that says English Spoken Here without any sort of qualifier that the customers should also?

How about we just make english the law of the land and call it a day?
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Re: 'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2008, 10:38:20 AM »
Nobody speaks english in Philly..... :rotf:


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