I love Obama's pastor - anyone that doesn't, has an agenda

[Wretched Excess]

Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-17-08 08:45 PM
Original message
I love Obama's pastor - anyone that doesn't, has an agenda
   
Obama's pastor has reinforced my desire to vote for Obama. However, the right wingers (including Hillary Clinton) are trying to get the population to dislike the pastor. In the same way that right wingnuts did with feminists (which I am one), they twist and mangle and take anyone that threatens their fascist goals and make them seem like the enemy. The truth is that right wingnuts are the enemy, not feminists, not Obama's pastor, not anyone the right wing tries to crucify.

We've seen what the right wing is capable of. They've just about destroyed this country. They've done it because we allowed them to. We loved their lies. Do we continue to love them even to this day? Will we continue to love them when this country has turned into the 3rd world nation right wingnuts are trying to turn it into?

We need to understand and face head on the fact that once again we've been had by right wingnuts. We cannot allow their lies to continue, and, like a poisonous snake, we must kill it.

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redwitch  Mon Mar-17-08 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. I don't love him.
   

 

Sarah Ibarruri Mon Mar-17-08 08:51 PM
Original message
I'm sure you have a reason. What is it? nt

 

Skittles Mon Mar-17-08 08:52 PM
Original message
he infers murdered girls are sluts?
   
that's just f***ing U G L Y

 

Sarah Ibarruri Mon Mar-17-08 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
13. huh?
   
What are you talking about?

Skittles    Mon Mar-17-08 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. I understand his anger at the "Missing White Woman" syndrome
   
but he took it a step further by trashing the women themselves:

"Black women are being raped daily in Darfur, Sudan, in the Congo and in Sub-Saharan Africa. That doesn't make news," Wright said in the August 2005 edition of Trumpet Magazine, a publication of his Trinity United Church of Christ.

But, "One 18-year-old white girl from Alabama gets drunk on a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and 'gives it up' while in a foreign country, and that stays in the news for months!" he added. "Maybe I am missing something!"

 

Sarah Ibarruri Mon Mar-17-08 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. AND YOU THINK THAT'S A LIE?
   
What planet did you just land from for godssakes?

 

Skittles Mon Mar-17-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. done with you
   
you make no ****ing sense whatsoever

 

Sarah Ibarruri Mon Mar-17-08 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. Oh LORD I guess you DO think it's a lie! You're scaring me nt

 

Hoof Hearted Tue Mar-18-08 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #31
180. You think girls who get murdered deserve to have ugly presumptions made about their sexual behavior
   
by some preacher that never knew them to pump up his congregation?

Unless you are ready to address this directly, don't waste your time answering this post. I promise you, and anyone else, I will repeat it (the question) ad nauseum until it is addressed.

 

Sarah Ibarruri Tue Mar-18-08 07:31 AM
Response to Reply #180
197. You know that's not what I'm saying but you get off on pretending it is, don't you?
   
I said she was irresponsible. She was engaging in irresponsible behavior. If you get drunk and on drugs and go off with a lunatic knowing you know nothing about this person, are you being a responsible person? No. But that won't matter with you. Your desire to get Hillary Clinton elected is much more important than truth, reality, or anything really.

 

JoFerret (1000+ posts)Mon Mar-17-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #27
96. Forget it. Over the top, divisive and irrational

   

 

stillcool47 Mon Mar-17-08 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #22
45. It is ugly...
   
He could have made the case without attacking the victim. He should know better.

 

Sarah Ibarruri Mon Mar-17-08 09:11 PM
Original message
And the millions being killed who are black, it's not ugly that their deaths are
   
overlooked or encouraged? Your priorities.... examine them.

aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 02:53 AM
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186. So only black deaths count?
   
Racist much?

 

lizzy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Mar-17-08 09:46 PM
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95. What planet did you land from?
   
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 09:50 PM by lizzy
The claim that she went to Aruba and "gave it up."
He could have made the point about "missing white girl syndrome" by saying she went missing...
But no, he had to say she "gave it up."
Nobody knows exactly what happened to the girl.

this thread went fallujah in the first three posts.    this particular flame battle isn't even over yet.

[Carl]

Eee gads...sometimes looking through the window into the world of the truly and desperatly insane is unsettling.

I would wish that the op could get help but I doubt they want any.

[Wretched Excess]

rug  Mon Mar-17-08 08:50 PM
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3. What's my agenda, Sarah?

 

Sarah Ibarruri Mon Mar-17-08 08:54 PM
Original message
There are various:
   
1) The desperate Hillary agenda;
2) The right wingnuts "desperate to run against Hillary" agenda;
3) The I'm so white and white is better agenda.

(And by the way, I'm white)

this puppy is hard to keep up with.

[Lauri]

i havent read the thread over there yet... but do they not get the hypocrisy of Obama saying Don Imus should be fired off the air for his one remark? AND, that Imus is a comic of that sort of humor... I dont believe anybody that has listened to him for 20 years will be unduly affected should they run for the President's office..

but Obama can ask for someone else's head and not get the irony is pretty funny..

if he actually 'fires' the reverand.. that makes three people fired from his campaign int he past three weeks! 

[jukin]

It's so entertaining when the liberal one way streets go in opposite directions.

Live by identy politics, die by identy politics.


OPERATION KAOS!!!

[DixieBelle]

I'm lovin' it. They really do know how to screw up a free lunch don't they?

[Ralph Wiggum]

In the same way that right wingnuts did with feminists (which I am one), they twist and mangle and take anyone that threatens their fascist goals and make them seem like the enemy.

 

Nobody twisted the pastors words.  They speak for themselves.

[Wretched Excess]

In the same way that right wingnuts did with feminists (which I am one), they twist and mangle and take anyone that threatens their fascist goals and make them seem like the enemy.

 

Nobody twisted the pastors words.  They speak for themselves.

what if rev. wright's sermons represent exactly what a significant portion of the african-american population actually thinks, and the only problem is that now the secret is out?  the majority of that congregation certainly agreed with him, and agreed in a big arm waving, back slapping, foot stomping sort of way.

[Chris_]

what if rev. wright's sermons represent exactly what a significant portion of the african-american population actually thinks, and the only problem is that now the secret is out?  the majority of that congregation certainly agreed with him, and agreed in a big arm waving, back slapping, foot stomping sort of way.

I used to work with a black man that was in his late 40's... that is exactly how he felt.  After all, why fight to lower taxes or spending when someone else was always waiting around the corner to take more money from you.  He was a huge socailist to boot, but he saw himself as a traditional Democrat.  The ones closer to my age were a little more reasonable, but still toed the Democratic line.

[Chris_]

For some reason, I am reminded of:

"I have nipples, Fokker -- do you think you can milk me?"