obama to butt pluggers- I'm cutting the funding for cooties

[thundley4]

 

[NHSparky]

Vesta: Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??

CC: Forget it, she's rolling.

[vesta111]

Just an exercise in human dynamics when Aids comes to call. 

You see that all the family members were at risk of this disease for life style, but the only people to have the disease got it from no falt of their own.

[NHSparky]

Uh, hello?  Are you on something we should know about?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Kinda sounds like the start of a poorly-organized porn novel, if you ask me.

[Alpha Mare]

Just an exercise in human dynamics when Aids comes to call. 

You see that all the family members were at risk of this disease for life style, but the only people to have the disease got it from no falt of their own.

From transfusions of tainted blood. Blood that should not have been donated. Isn't that the point being made here?

Soliel- you said you'd do whatever it takes to save your baby. All parents feel that way. But how are you saving her, if instead you give her a short, painful, incurable life of HIV? Could you really do that to your child?
Be honest- would you?

[Tucker]

Kinda sounds like the start of a poorly-organized porn novel, if you ask me.

Sounded like a DU meet-up.

[The Village Idiot]

Sounded like a DU meet-up.

Thats what ROCKURWORLD posted a link to. heh.

[vesta111]

Uh, hello?  Are you on something we should know about?

Yes Sparky, I have 4 kids that I worry about,  all are adult and I have no idea what any of them are up to.

What am I to tell them, at their age my generation had a shot of Penicillin to  take care of most indiscretions.

Very few parents my age go looking for medical advice on Herpes, Clap or Syphilis's. or speak to their kids on the problem, they leave it to the schools sex-ed classes.

I am so far behind the Herpes and Aids it is ridiculous.

You have to realise that my generation had few if any STD's to worry about---Getting pregnant was the worse of the worse for us.

I did not go to nursing school until I was 30 + = WHAT A SHOCK,  rotation took me to public health in Norfork VA.
Early 1980's and Aids had just reared its ugly head.

The medical world went into a crazed time.  No one knew really how Aids spread at the time and some poor gay kid hit by a car was treated by doctors and nurses wearing bio-hazd suits.

We nurses in training had a problem with everyone. when we questioned our teachers about the children who had Aids they became crazed saying the children had been molested .

Years later a coworker came to me telling me they had contacted Herpies.This is a disease old as the hills but I had to research it...

Listen up here Sparky, you can date for a year and be married 3 years to a woman with that disease,  One day that demon will arise and change your life forever.





  

[ROCKURWORLD]

You think this behavior should be considered normal? Sometimes you just have to draw the line between what is good and evil.

Take a stand for something.

***Warning Graphic pics***

http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/

I guess she isn't going to look at the link and answer my question on is this normal?

[Duchess]

I guess she isn't going to look at the link and answer my question on is this normal?

Well I'll answer just because I feel like it-NO it's not normal, it's disgusting and abnormal. And to a point what these perverts do IS the rest of society's business because they want their perversion "normalised", let alone merely "tolerated". What perversion will society be expected next to "tolerate" (normalise, celebrate) in order to prevent offending the perverts? Perverts tear the fabric of strong societies, and societies can't be strong when they're indecent and perverted. History has shown this. Some level of perversion has been "tolerated" under the radar in most societies, but until the plague of political correctness, common sense told people that to openly tolerate (or as in 21st century American society, be forced to celebrate) perversion could bring nothing but weakness and decadence to society.

[Ballygrl]

I guess she isn't going to look at the link and answer my question on is this normal?

WOW! I clicked on that link and I've never seen behavior like that in my life. Call me naive, but what about obscenity laws? why aren't they enforced? and you can't tell me there were no kids around when this was going on. I've never been so disgusted.

[ROCKURWORLD]

WOW! I clicked on that link and I've never seen behavior like that in my life. Call me naive, but what about obscenity laws? why aren't they enforced? and you can't tell me there were no kids around when this was going on. I've never been so disgusted.

You know I really believe that if there were no Christians in that area then God would probably do another Sodom and Gomorrah on that place. Stuff like that has to come straight from Hell.

[Ballygrl]

You know I really believe that if there were no Christians in that area then God would probably do another Sodom and Gomorrah on that place. Stuff like that has to come straight from Hell.

I'm literally in shock, I've been to Zombietime before and saw disgusting anti-war demonstration pics, but I never saw the Folsom Street Fair link.

[ROCKURWORLD]

I'm literally in shock, I've been to Zombietime before and saw disgusting anti-war demonstration pics, but I never saw the Folsom Street Fair link.

Zombie time actually cleaned it up. It was worse the last time I looked at it. It had pics of people in apartments above the street masturbating onto the crowd.

[Plague]

Off to fight club Kiddies.

Play nice.

[NHSparky]

WOW! I clicked on that link and I've never seen behavior like that in my life. Call me naive, but what about obscenity laws? why aren't they enforced? and you can't tell me there were no kids around when this was going on. I've never been so disgusted.

Obscene by SF standards is someone in a suit and tie who votes Republican.

[zeitgeist]

Yes Sparky, I have 4 kids that I worry about,  all are adult and I have no idea what any of them are up to.

What am I to tell them, at their age my generation had a shot of Penicillin to  take care of most indiscretions.

Very few parents my age go looking for medical advice on Herpes, Clap or Syphilis's. or speak to their kids on the problem, they leave it to the schools sex-ed classes.

I am so far behind the Herpes and Aids it is ridiculous.

You have to realise that my generation had few if any STD's to worry about---Getting pregnant was the worse of the worse for us.

I did not go to nursing school until I was 30 + = WHAT A SHOCK,  rotation took me to public health in Norfork VA.
Early 1980's and Aids had just reared its ugly head.

The medical world went into a crazed time.  No one knew really how Aids spread at the time and some poor gay kid hit by a car was treated by doctors and nurses wearing bio-hazd suits.

We nurses in training had a problem with everyone. when we questioned our teachers about the children who had Aids they became crazed saying the children had been molested .

Years later a coworker came to me telling me they had contacted Herpies.This is a disease old as the hills but I had to research it...

Listen up here Sparky, you can date for a year and be married 3 years to a woman with that disease,  One day that demon will arise and change your life forever.





  

Vesta, are you equating AIDS with Herpes?  And would that be type I or II?  Lets face it you can get a cold sore ( herpes type I IIRC) from kissing your old maid aunt.  And type ii from kissing.....well lets not go there.   AIDS?  Well, lets just say in most cases you get that from an exchange of bodily fluids transfered in a different manner.  Herpes while uncomfortable is not fatal.  Full blown AIDS is.

[Karin]

I haven't read all this thread yet, but let me mention before I forget, it was Warpy who recommended lying on the blood/marrow donation forms. 

[dandi]

"butt pluggers"?

So, AIDS is still a gay disease?

It most certainly is a predominately homosexual disease.  Do you have something that says otherwise?

[dandi]

From transfusions of tainted blood. Blood that should not have been donated. Isn't that the point being made here?

Soliel- you said you'd do whatever it takes to save your baby. All parents feel that way. But how are you saving her, if instead you give her a short, painful, incurable life of HIV? Could you really do that to your child?
Be honest- would you?

If it's all in the name of feel-good pc liberalism, she'd do it in a heartbeat.

Liberals are liberals first, their first loyalty is to liberalism.  The body count from it is not important.

[dandi]

All of this reminds me of the late, great Sam Kinison.  He did a comedy routine back in 1990 that talked about AIDS, oddly enough.  Since Sam had taken so much crap from the Lavender Mafia about his very vocal stance on buggery and all of it's many peculiar quirks.

At any rate, Sam had received criticism because his jokes were "medically incorrect".  At this particular show (which was recorded and distributed under the title "Leader of the Banned"), he decided to correct the record.

According to Sam, one of the "medically correct" ways you can catch AIDS is by receiving a large load of infected semen up the ass and another is shooting up with someone who likes to suck dick for drug money.

Thus, the queers no longer had a reason to bitch about his routines.

Sam Kinison - funny, irreverent, and "medically correct".

[delilahmused]

There has been no mention of the AIDS rate amongst gay women. If it is a gay disease and all.

Well that's because lesbian sex is less risky and women aren't as promiscuous. But, by trying to make the argument "it's everybody's disease" you do a disservice to those most vulnerable. Trying to make this an "equal opportunity" disease you don't focus on those things that truly can make gay men safe (or safer). Were it simply an "anal sex" disease it would be MORE prevalent among straight and even bisexual people. This is an important issue for me because it's personal.

My best friend is gay. We have such an uncanny connection that we know when something is wrong with each other. We were going to college in the bay area when this whole thing started. For a while, when they truly didn't know what caused it (there was even speculation it could be poppers if you can believe that), it seemed like we were losing a friend every week. And it was scary. The accepted myth has become it was Reagan's fault because he didn't care (yeah, like living and working in Hollywood he didn't have any gay friends).

But I was there. The government suspected it had something to do with the bath houses and asked them to, at least temporarily, close them until they knew more. The owners REFUSED because they were making money hand over fist, especially around the weekend of the gay freedom parade. They asked if the organizers would at least pass out fliers at the parade to be careful, especially at the bath houses. Again, they refused.

People came from all over the US and saw bath houses as a place where they could let loose and have scads and wads of anonymous sex. Then they'd take the virus back with them. Imagine the difference had those who were supposedly advocating for gay men had been willing to take these simple steps. But no, rather than protect them, even though it meant losing money, they just blamed Reagan and it's now part of the gay/liberal myth. To this day advocacy groups still don't admit complicity.

Luckily, my friend has never been promiscuous and didn't engage in risky sex. Thank God, because my life would not have been as rich had I lost him when everyone around us was dying. After that, for whatever reason, it became an "everyone can get it" disease. Had the disease spread as fast as the fear and rumors, it would be much more prevalent among heterosexuals. Had advocates not tried to be so damn politically correct by spreading the fear so many lives could have been saved.

Cindie

[debk]

Well that's because lesbian sex is less risky and women aren't as promiscuous. But, by trying to make the argument "it's everybody's disease" you do a disservice to those most vulnerable. Trying to make this an "equal opportunity" disease you don't focus on those things that truly can make gay men safe (or safer). Were it simply an "anal sex" disease it would be MORE prevalent among straight and even bisexual people. This is an important issue for me because it's personal.

My best friend is gay. We have such an uncanny connection that we know when something is wrong with each other. We were going to college in the bay area when this whole thing started. For a while, when they truly didn't know what caused it (there was even speculation it could be poppers if you can believe that), it seemed like we were losing a friend every week. And it was scary. The accepted myth has become it was Reagan's fault because he didn't care (yeah, like living and working in Hollywood he didn't have any gay friends).

But I was there. The government suspected it had something to do with the bath houses and asked them to, at least temporarily, close them until they knew more. The owners REFUSED because they were making money hand over fist, especially around the weekend of the gay freedom parade. They asked if the organizers would at least pass out fliers at the parade to be careful, especially at the bath houses. Again, they refused.

People came from all over the US and saw bath houses as a place where they could let loose and have scads and wads of anonymous sex. Then they'd take the virus back with them. Imagine the difference had those who were supposedly advocating for gay men had been willing to take these simple steps. But no, rather than protect them, even though it meant losing money, they just blamed Reagan and it's now part of the gay/liberal myth. To this day advocacy groups still don't admit complicity.

Luckily, my friend has never been promiscuous and didn't engage in risky sex. Thank God, because my life would not have been as rich had I lost him when everyone around us was dying. After that, for whatever reason, it became an "everyone can get it" disease. Had the disease spread as fast as the fear and rumors, it would be much more prevalent among heterosexuals. Had advocates not tried to be so damn politically correct by spreading the fear so many lives could have been saved.

Cindie

For many years, blood given at blood banks was not adequately checked for AIDS.

There was a time, when the largest contingent of blood donors...were "bums" looking for money for a bottle of MD20/20! or college kids looking for extra money, or the homeless looking for food money.

Because blood donations were not adequately checked.....people receiving transfusions - for whatever reason....were getting AIDS. My best friend's stepson was a hemopheliac who got a bad bag of factor. He was 17. Brilliant, popular, a great artist and writer, STRAIGHT. Died at 27.

Doctors and nurses got AIDS, because they took care of people who had AIDS....and no one knew it. The surgeon who cut herself during surgery on an AIDS patient...but didn't think anything about it because it was the late 70's and no one knew that much about HIV/AIDS.

The women who gave birth to HIV-infected babies because the mother didn't know she was infected.

AIDS isn't a homosexual disease.

It's a disease that is most prevalent in the homosexual population.

There's a difference.

[thundley4]

But, without homosexuals, the disease most likely could have been contained and eradicated.  We have managed to do that with other diseases that are transmitted much more easily.