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Offline LC EFA

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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #75 on: May 28, 2010, 07:29:38 AM »
Quote from: World Communism on May 28, 2010, 12:53:50 AM
    As a Communist, I don't believe in or approve of religion, but apart from that I don't see the problem. The people who want to have this mosque have condemned the attacks and said that they want to improve the community. I'm seeing intolerance from some of you guys though. Knee jerk reaction to anything Islam?

Well, speaking for myself I've never pretended to be "tolerant", and don't really see why it's -by definition- a good thing.

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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2010, 08:41:06 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on May 28, 2010, 06:59:12 AM

Could be they plan to use our own laws against us, figuring that if they push us far enough WE will fight back and it will be to our peril if we do so.  They can tie up the courts and the police arresting anyone that objects as discriminating against them.   

That's the MO from Europe too
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #77 on: May 28, 2010, 11:41:44 AM »
Quote from: LC EFA on May 28, 2010, 07:29:38 AM
Well, speaking for myself I've never pretended to be "tolerant", and don't really see why it's -by definition- a good thing.



Those espousing tolerance are amongst the most intollerant in America.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2010, 12:08:44 PM »
Quote from: LC EFA on May 28, 2010, 07:29:38 AM
Well, speaking for myself I've never pretended to be "tolerant", and don't really see why it's -by definition- a good thing.



Nor have I........nor do I ever intend to be regarding Islam.   The concept of "tolerance" reminds me of an old sage......."Those who beat their swords into plowshares, are destined to be ruled by those who don't........"

I'm "tolerant" enough to reluctantly not object to construction of a mosque at almost any other location but this one.........I used to work in those towers, and lost some good friends there on 9/11........construction of ANYTHING Islamic on that site is sacrilege........

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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2010, 12:13:54 PM »
Quote from: Doc on May 28, 2010, 12:08:44 PM
Nor have I........nor do I ever intend to be regarding Islam.   The concept of "tolerance" reminds me of an old sage......."Those who beat their swords into plowshares, are destined to be ruled by those who don't........"

I'm "tolerant" enough to reluctantly not object to construction of a mosque at almost any other location but this one.........I used to work in those towers, and lost some good friends there on 9/11........construction of ANYTHING Islamic on that site is sacrilege........

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Tell me, would it be taboo to build a Catholic church within a few blocks of an IRA bombing?
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2010, 12:28:14 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on May 28, 2010, 06:59:12 AM
This may be a brilliant plan to divide the country. 

Could be they plan to use our own laws against us, figuring that if they push us far enough WE will fight back and it will be to our peril if we do so.  They can tie up the courts and the police arresting anyone that objects as discriminating against them.   

Hate crimes , hate speech they will claim as they keep pooking proding and keeping old wounds open.   What better way to distroy a country then to give non-citizens rights that our own citizens are not allowed.


The Islamic community has already stated that they would overtake this country by using our own laws against us. There is no "could be" about it.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #81 on: May 28, 2010, 12:33:59 PM »
Quote from: djones520 on May 28, 2010, 12:13:54 PM
Tell me, would it be taboo to build a Catholic church within a few blocks of an IRA bombing?

The IRA is a nationalist movement, not a religious one. Plus they are pikers compared to Mooselimbs.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2010, 12:43:13 PM »
Quote from: djones520 on May 28, 2010, 12:13:54 PM
Tell me, would it be taboo to build a Catholic church within a few blocks of an IRA bombing?

Get back to me when you've done your homework, and know a bit more about what the "Troubles" in Ireland were actually all about........

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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #83 on: May 28, 2010, 12:45:10 PM »
Quote from: djones520 on May 28, 2010, 12:13:54 PM
Tell me, would it be taboo to build a Catholic church within a few blocks of an IRA bombing?

No....might be a bit difficult in downtown Baghdad though.

This is more on the order of a Nazi musuem in downtown Jerusalem, next door to a synagogue.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #84 on: May 28, 2010, 03:00:58 PM »
Quote from: soleil on May 27, 2010, 08:35:36 PM
I am all about freedom of religion, but this is basically a slap in the face. Build it elsewhere. Stay away from that site.

...you really are different. I could never have imagined anyone who ever posted to the DU understanding that this is so obviously an insult (and an attempt by radical Islamists to show that, essentially, that they've conquered this territory). I mean, to us it's evident that, well, since the act of war that was 9/11 was committed in the name of Islam, then no amount of argument can make it anything but a hideously indecent act to erect a holy shrine to Islam within short walking distance. But liberals go on about tolerance blah blah blah, as if we're supposed to tolerate being conquered.

Now you've astonished me. You really have.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #85 on: May 28, 2010, 03:26:48 PM »
Good reading, if you can hold your cookies:


http://www.gothamresistance.com/2010/05/26/self-hating-liberals-of-community-board-1-approve-mega-mosque-near-ground-zero/



Get ready--it gets worse:



"What is just as sickening as the proposed building of this Mosque is the fact that they want to use September 11th 2011 as the grand opening. That’s right; on the tenth anniversary of the Muslim terrorist attacks, the super Mosque will open while there is still nothing but a gigantic hole where the Twin Towers stood."


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/tonight-community-board-1-in.html


And isn't it obvious from all of this that this evil--this abomination--is not promoting anything remotely resembling "healing"?


This link will take you to their website, and at least you can see their names dispersed over several committees. I can't find this resolution or the minutes of it--they haven't posted it yet (what a surprise). Their resolutions don't, as far as I can tell, have names attached. Damned cowards. 29 voted for, 1 against--that 1 person should come out and identify himself/herself so we know who the one good guy is:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/mancb1/html/about/committees.shtml







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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #86 on: May 28, 2010, 03:30:27 PM »
Quote from: Godot showed up on May 28, 2010, 03:26:48 PM

"What is just as sickening as the proposed building of this Mosque is the fact that they want to use September 11th 2011 as the grand opening. That’s right; on the tenth anniversary of the Muslim terrorist attacks, the super Mosque will open while there is still nothing but a gigantic hole where the Twin Towers stood."


Right there ought to tell the people that this IS a slap in the face.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #87 on: May 28, 2010, 03:36:04 PM »
Quote from: Godot showed up on May 28, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
...you really are different. I could never have imagined anyone who ever posted to the DU understanding that this is so obviously an insult (and an attempt by radical Islamists to show that, essentially, that they've conquered this territory). I mean, to us it's evident that, well, since the act of war that was 9/11 was committed in the name of Islam, then no amount of argument can make it anything but a hideously indecent act to erect a holy shrine to Islam within short walking distance. But liberals go on about tolerance blah blah blah, as if we're supposed to tolerate being conquered.

Now you've astonished me. You really have.

I told you that you may find we actually agree on more things than you think. ;)
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #88 on: May 28, 2010, 03:58:55 PM »
Quote from: soleil on May 28, 2010, 03:36:04 PM
I told you that you may find we actually agree on more things than you think. ;)

And you were right. And on an issue related to American sovereignty and, in some respects, national security...let's just say that's the last area I'd have expected us to find any common ground.

Say, does anyone else see the same ad at the top of this particular thread? "Muslima.com"? International Muslim matrimonial site? What's up with that? Now that's a strange coincidence.

Now it reads "singlemuslim.com"? WTF?!

It's gone...now it's Macy*s. Mmmph.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #89 on: May 28, 2010, 04:26:33 PM »
Quote from: World Communism on May 28, 2010, 12:53:50 AM
   As a Communist, I don't believe in or approve of religion, but apart from that I don't see the problem. The people who want to have this mosque have condemned the attacks and said that they want to improve the community. I'm seeing intolerance from some of you guys though. Knee jerk reaction to anything Islam?

This is a shot in America's eye. It has nothing to do with tolerance.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2010, 04:34:43 PM »
Quote from: Godot showed up on May 28, 2010, 03:58:55 PM
And you were right. And on an issue related to American sovereignty and, in some respects, national security...let's just say that's the last area I'd have expected us to find any common ground.

Say, does anyone else see the same ad at the top of this particular thread? "Muslima.com"? International Muslim matrimonial site? What's up with that? Now that's a strange coincidence.

Now it reads "singlemuslim.com"? WTF?!

It's gone...now it's Macy*s. Mmmph.


History buffs Help me here.

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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #91 on: May 28, 2010, 05:00:53 PM »
Quote from: Godot showed up on May 28, 2010, 03:58:55 PM
Say, does anyone else see the same ad at the top of this particular thread? "Muslima.com"? International Muslim matrimonial site? What's up with that? Now that's a strange coincidence.

I don't see an ad. Any ad.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #92 on: May 28, 2010, 08:25:59 PM »
Quote from: FGL on May 28, 2010, 05:00:53 PM
I don't see an ad. Any ad.

By sheer luck, I guess, FGL. the ad was back when I just took a look at this thread.  Or at least one of them. No doubt the other was just on before this. Here's a screen grab:


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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #93 on: May 28, 2010, 08:29:16 PM »
I'm using a different skin and I see no ads, not really. Don't tell Thor.

I am using Blue-IT, you can change yours too.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #94 on: May 28, 2010, 08:29:43 PM »
Quote from: Godot showed up on May 28, 2010, 08:25:59 PM
By sheer luck, I guess, FGL. the ad was back when I just took a look at this thread.  Or at least one of them. No doubt the other was just on before this. Here's a screen grab:





 :lmao: That is funny.

And as I typed this, there was an "International Muslim Matrimonial" ad up.  :lmao:
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #95 on: May 28, 2010, 09:38:47 PM »
Use Firefox and AddBlock.

Jeez.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #96 on: May 28, 2010, 09:50:25 PM »
Quote from: LC EFA on May 28, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Use Firefox and AddBlock.

Jeez.


or change your CC layout to Blue-IT
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #97 on: May 29, 2010, 12:22:19 AM »
Quote from: LC EFA on May 28, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
Use Firefox and AddBlock.

Jeez.


No, you're misunderstanding me. I don't care if there are ads. Nothing wrong with that. But doesn't anyone think it's strange that there are these sorts of ads, here?
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #98 on: May 29, 2010, 12:26:01 AM »
Quote from: Godot showed up on May 29, 2010, 12:22:19 AM
No, you're misunderstanding me. I don't care if there are ads. Nothing wrong with that. But doesn't anyone think it's strange that there are these sorts of ads, here?

Those sites pay the ad companies to run their ads, the bots look for message forum page and webpage topics, the computer automatically tries to fit the ad with the topic of the page. Start a thread about something and see.

On my sci-fi writing forum I see ads about newly published scifi books, how-to publish a book ads and stuff like that.
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Re: 13-story mosque to be built at Ground Zero
« Reply #99 on: May 29, 2010, 12:44:20 AM »
I have no idea how or which adds are generated.  I assume it's like AdBot at the DUmp, but we're using Google for most of our advertising.

Still funny. :rofl:
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