REPORT: Reagan Interfered With Carter's Iran-Hostage Negotiations-Hid Info From

[Carl]

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kpete  (1000+ posts)          Fri May-07-10 10:53 AM
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REPORT: Reagan Interfered With Carter's Iran-Hostage Negotiations-Hid Info From Congress & Americans   
   
Key October Surprise Evidence Hidden

By Robert Parry (A Special Report)
May 6, 2010

A Russian government report, which corroborated allegations that Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign interfered with President Jimmy Carter’s Iran-hostage negotiations in 1980, was apparently kept from the Democratic chairman of a congressional task force that investigated the charges a dozen years later.


Lee Hamilton, then a congressman from Indiana in charge of the task force, told me in a recent interview, “I don’t recall seeing it,” although he was the one who had requested Moscow’s cooperation in the first place and the extraordinary Russian report was addressed to him.

The Russian report, which was dropped off at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow on Jan. 11, 1993, contradicted the task force’s findings – which were released two days later – of “no credible evidence” showing that Republicans contacted Iranian intermediaries behind President Carter’s back regarding 52 American hostages held by Iran’s Islamic revolutionary government, the so-called October Surprise case.

I was surprised by Hamilton’s unfamiliarity with the Russian report, so I e-mailed him a PDF copy. I then contacted the task force’s former chief counsel, attorney Lawrence Barcella, who acknowledged in an e-mail that he doesn’t “recall whether I showed the Russian report or not.”

In other words, the Russian report – possibly representing Moscow’s first post-Cold War collaboration with the United States on an intelligence mystery – was not only kept from the American public but apparently from the chairman of the task force responsible for the investigation.

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http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050610.html

I know a lot of folks don`t like going to the DUmp but just too much rambling stupidity,hatred and craziness to bring over in any coherent fashion.
You have to go read through it all...it is a treasure trove of pure insane idiocy.

[Chris]

Talk about living in the past.

[The Village Idiot]

Now they're just making stuff up.

I am sure the Carter Administrations' State Department was protecting Ronald Reagan

[diesel driver]

What about the SR-71 flights Bush 1 made between DC and Iran during the campaign? 

Have the DUmbasses completely forgotten about that?

[miskie]

I refuse to believe it - unless they can prove it to me with kerosene , cinder blocks, and chicken wire.

[Lord Undies]

This has been a leftist wet dream ever since Carter was so completely and utterly embarrassed by Iran in 1979-80.  You know how they hate to be responsible for their own failure - since everything a lefty touches fails. 

Please don't buy a minute of this crap.  I'm sure the State Department kept President Reagan (candidate) updated about the situation throughout the campaign, but nothing else transpired. 

[Carl]

This has been a leftist wet dream ever since Carter was so completely and utterly embarrassed by Iran in 1979-80.  You know how they hate to be responsible for their own failure - since everything a lefty touches fails. 

Please don't buy a minute of this crap.  I'm sure the State Department kept President Reagan (candidate) updated about the situation throughout the campaign, but nothing else transpired. 

This entire nonsense was debunked decades ago...to suggest as some have that the candidate for Vice President could have made such a trip with no one knowing and/or keeping silent is lunacy in the highest.

[formerlurker]

Just looking at his past work jogged my memory on who this nut is.   I love this though:

A politician's reaction to dissent is often the true test of a commitment to democracy. Great leaders not only tolerate criticism, but welcome disagreement as part of a fair competition of ideas leading to the best result for society.

Certainly, no one who truly cares about democracy favors punishing critics and demonizing dissenters. But just such hostility has been the calling card of George W. Bush Barrack H. Obama and his backers over the past five two years as they have subjected public critics to vilification, ridicule and retaliation.

http://people.tribe.net/project_mayhem/blog/d0b8c7ce-af49-4b9e-99a6-c51188c2e66f

.....  I am sure he has an article on the Messiah coming any day now....

[dandi]

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050610.html

 



Why is it every time I see one of these moonbat Truth To Powerâ„¢ web sites I get a mental image of some aging hippy sitting in his wifebeaters and urine-stained boxers in front of his computer in a sleazy storefront "office," empty pizza boxes stacked ten deep around him, the smell of B.O. and stale smoke from cheap cigarettes in the air, banging away bleary-eyed on the keyboard and mumbling, "This is it baby...this is the big one...you're goin' down now...up against the wall, pigs...this is it?"

You'd think if all these no-name blogs someone puts together on a shoestring can get access to top level government officials and classified documents that someone would at least throw cnn.com a bone once in a while. Why do all these major league whistleblowers and Deep Throat-like heroes spill their guts to "journalists" whose sites can only be found after clicking through 37 porn pop-ups, 6 Get-Rich-At-Home-Here's-How! ads and an introductory free offer from Turtle Wax?

Wake me up when the legs are toasted.

[Chris]

"This is it baby...this is the big one...you're goin' down now...up against the wall, pigs...this is it?"

You'd think if all these no-name blogs someone puts together on a shoestring can get access to top level government officials and classified documents that someone would at least throw cnn.com a bone once in a while. Why do all these major league whistleblowers and Deep Throat-like heroes spill their guts to "journalists" whose sites can only be found after clicking through 37 porn pop-ups, 6 Get-Rich-At-Home-Here's-How! ads and an introductory free offer from Turtle Wax?

Things are tough all over.  I heard even Will Pitt had to get a job.

[sofa king]

heh!

no, pretty much carter interfered with carter's iran-hostage negotiations.

when you show yourself to be a p*ssy in the international game of chess?  the others in the game will figure that out pretty quick and f**k with you.



(oh! and no offense to those here that actually have p*ssies.  i don't need to tell you that you possess the most potent weapon ever!  it's just when a *guy* shows that aspect...  hell...  you know what i mean.)

[TheSarge]

Long before there was BDS...the VRWC...Darth Rove...and Dick Cheney starting wars via Haliburton...the same people making those claims...20 years younger and not as refined in their Kookery went after Ronaldus Magnus.

There was the claims of an October Surprise as we all know. They also said he was everything from an empty suit to a reckless Cowboy itching to start WW III to the Devil himself. Their proof of the latter was the fact his first middle and last names had 6 letters each.

Then you had the wild claims against VP Bush that he had some secret love affair going with a Seniorita down in Panama and instead of Halliburton and Cheney...it was LTC North trying to start wars so the fat cat industrialists could profit.

BDS has been around in various forms for decades...but it's taken that long and the addition of the Internet to refine it to the well defined delusions we see today.  

[Chris]

Don't forget Nixon.  There are still loons that froth at the mere though of R. Milhous Nixon.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

This has been a leftist wet dream ever since Carter was so completely and utterly embarrassed by Iran in 1979-80. 

Which is ironic considering how jubilant they are that Obama is of the same mold as Carter only by orders of magnitude.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050610.html

 

Must be one of Thor's websites.

[Lord Undies]

Long before there was BDS...the VRWC...Darth Rove...and Dick Cheney starting wars via Haliburton...the same people making those claims...20 years younger and not as refined in their Kookery went after Ronaldus Magnus.

There was the claims of an October Surprise as we all know. They also said he was everything from an empty suit to a reckless Cowboy itching to start WW III to the Devil himself. Their proof of the latter was the fact his first middle and last names had 6 letters each.

Then you had the wild claims against VP Bush that he had some secret love affair going with a Seniorita down in Panama and instead of Halliburton and Cheney...it was LTC North trying to start wars so the fat cat industrialists could profit.

BDS has been around in various forms for decades...but it's taken that long and the addition of the Internet to refine it to the well defined delusions we see today.  

Ronald Wilson Reagan = 666.  Ha!  I remember that.

Whenever normal decent men are in power, the Left panics.  That's why I think we are going to be very amused for the next few years.

[tuolumnejim]

Wow there's some real nut's on thead. I remember when we used to keep them locked up and strapped to a bed, but Carter the DUmb took care of that.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Ronald Reagan also personally cut the hydraulic lines of the helicopter that crashed at Desert 1.

Totally true story.

I read it on the internet.

[Carl]

Well over 200 replies and almost 300 recs later...

BootinUp (1000+ posts)        Sat May-08-10 09:44 AM
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223. I tend to be skeptical of conspiracy theories, in that light
   for those that haven't read it, a New Republic investigative article on the October Surprise that was part of the Congressional record. http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1991_cr/h911104-october...

Once you start to learn about the people who originally vouched for this conspiracy it starts to become clear that there is not and never was evidence that withstood careful scrutiny. As for the document referenced in the OP, I would need more verification than is provided about its authenticity frankly, it could be forged for all I know.

Then the article which is too long to post here is provided

That more or less killed the thing but just amazing at how simple minded they are as to not even check the story which as I said earlier was debunked many years ago.

[jukin]

Let's give the benefit of the doubt that there actually is some old russian doc. These are the guys that Reagan beat. I'm sure they would have no reason to make anything up to discredit him...or help the new communists that are presently in power but soon will not.  No reason at all.

[crockspot]

News flash: John F. Kerry commits treason by interfering with the Paris Peace Talks and negotiating on behalf of North Vietnam, advocating leaving our POWs there to rot forever.

[thundley4]

There was also that little matter of Dead Ted colluding with the Russians to try and prevent the reelection of Ronald Reagan.

[jukin]

There was also that little matter of Dead Ted colluding with the Russians to try and prevent the reelection of Ronald Reagan.

That's patriotic. [/DUchebag]

[Chris_]

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050610.html

 



Why is it every time I see one of these moonbat Truth To Powerâ„¢ web sites I get a mental image of some aging hippy sitting in his wifebeaters and urine-stained boxers in front of his computer in a sleazy storefront "office," empty pizza boxes stacked ten deep around him, the smell of B.O. and stale smoke from cheap cigarettes in the air, banging away bleary-eyed on the keyboard and mumbling, "This is it baby...this is the big one...you're goin' down now...up against the wall, pigs...this is it?"

You'd think if all these no-name blogs someone puts together on a shoestring can get access to top level government officials and classified documents that someone would at least throw cnn.com a bone once in a while. Why do all these major league whistleblowers and Deep Throat-like heroes spill their guts to "journalists" whose sites can only be found after clicking through 37 porn pop-ups, 6 Get-Rich-At-Home-Here's-How! ads and an introductory free offer from Turtle Wax?

Wake me up when the legs are toasted.

The only argument that I can find with this rant is.......there is no such thing as a "cheap cigarette" any more.......

doc

[RightCoast]

Can you say fake, but accurate?

[Godot showed up]

Don't forget Nixon.  There are still loons that froth at the mere though of R. Milhous Nixon.

And a few conservatives, but for other reasons. Can we all spell EPA? For one of the two most intelligent Presidents (in raw IQ) in the last 150 years, Nixon did pull some doozies. He should have seen how that agency would eventually be misused.