Capitalism: GUILTY of the WAR against the air, water, and soil.

[Attero Dominatus]

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Union Yes  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-03-10 10:18 PM
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Capitalism: GUILTY of the WAR against the air, water, and soil.
   
BP's oil gusher that is KILLING the Gulf is..

A SCATHING INDICTMENT.

CAPITALISM IS ECO-TERRORISM.
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Capitalism you say? China is one of the most polluted countries in the world. The USSR had major pollution problems too.

Regret My New Name  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-03-10 10:33 PM
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2. Hmmm... Does this mean non-capitalistic nations do not cause eco-damage?
   
Let's say the US and other major world players were non-capitalistic societies, would that mean incidents like this wouldn't happen? Don't you think the problems are humans in general?
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L0oniX  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon May-03-10 10:41 PM
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3. Capitalism or nature. One or the other has to go.   Updated at 9:46 PM
   
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You want everyone to live in the wilderness without technology? You go first, DUmbshit. Go play with a Grizzly Bear.

KillCapitalism  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue May-04-10 01:58 AM
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18. We need oil to power things but oil = stupidity.
   
By now we should be relying mostly on wind, solar, hydroelectric, biofuel, etc. to power most of society. Hydrogen cars should also be widely available.
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It takes more energy to liberate hydrogen atoms from water molecules than you get back from reaction with oxygen.

[The Village Idiot]

These people have no understanding about how things really work. They do not understand that solar and wind energy is inefficient as hell and constant intermitten boosts and valleys of power generation will literally cause brownouts and burn out wires.

Some of those technologies cost ten or twenty times more than electricity from coal or gasoline for vehicles.

Eastern Europe has abandoned cities and toxic dumps are everywhere, remnants of communism.

Not that I expect DUmmies to know anything at all about .... anything.

[Attero Dominatus]

These people have no understanding about how things really work. They do not understand that solar and wind energy is inefficient as hell and constant intermitten boosts and valleys of power generation will literally cause brownouts and burn out wires.

Some of those technologies cost ten or twenty times more than electricity from coal or gasoline for vehicles.

Eastern Europe has abandoned cities and toxic dumps are everywhere, remnants of communism.

Not that I expect DUmmies to know anything at all about .... anything.

Correct. And in the case of electric and hybrid cars, batteries are heavy, made of hazardous materials (metal hydrides) and are expensive to replace.

The DUmmies are simple things. Incapable of rationality and logic.

[The Village Idiot]

Correct. And in the case of electric and hybrid cars, batteries are heavy, made of hazardous materials (metal hydrides) and are expensive to replace.

The DUmmies are simple things. Incapable of rationality and logic.

DUmmies don't know reality from a hole in the ground.

[Attero Dominatus]

DUmmies don't know reality from a hole in the ground.

Hell, they do not know what a hole is. Even if they fall in one.

[JohnnyReb]

Correct. And in the case of electric and hybrid cars, batteries are heavy, made of hazardous materials (metal hydrides) and are expensive to replace.

The DUmmies are simple things. Incapable of rationality and logic.

...and want to stay that way. That's why they take "Wymins Studies".

I wish someone would list what the hell you study in "Wymins Studies".....and that other one, "innerplanetary displinary studies" or something-R-other.

[miskie]

Union Yes  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)      Mon May-03-10 10:18 PM

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Capitalism: GUILTY of the WAR against the air, water, and soil.
   
BP's oil gusher that is KILLING the Gulf is..

A SCATHING INDICTMENT.

CAPITALISM IS ECO-TERRORISM.

Above - the obvious result of rampant capitalism. 

[JohnnyReb]

Lazy, do nothing, bloodsucking entitlement DUmmies....now there is ECO-TERRORISM.

[DumbAss Tanker]

In addition to Chernobyl, the USSR was the owner of the other greatest nuclear disaster in human history, involving what is generally believed to be a mineshaft full of nuclear waste being ejected by a massive steam explosion underneath it.  Apparently Soviet science more or less failed to realize their dump was rich enough in fissionables to become a de facto pile itself, or to think through what would happen with the accumulated ground water in the mine under an unmoderated atomic pile.

[JohnnyReb]

In addition to Chernobyl, the USSR was the owner of the other greatest nuclear disaster in human history, involving what is generally believed to be a mineshaft full of nuclear waste being ejected by a massive steam explosion underneath it.  Apparently Soviet science more or less failed to realize their dump was rich enough in fissionables to become a de facto pile itself, or to think through what would happen with the accumulated ground water in the mine under an unmoderated atomic pile.

Yeah, that was the area that just seemed to disappear off Russian maps.

I guess you can say, "It was wiped off the map."

[DumbAss Tanker]

Yeah, that was the area that just seemed to disappear off Russian maps.

I guess you can say, "It was wiped off the map."

Anything living in it pretty much was, from the few fragmentary reports that eventually leaked out about it.

[Lord Undies]

In addition to Chernobyl, the USSR was the owner of the other greatest nuclear disaster in human history, involving what is generally believed to be a mineshaft full of nuclear waste being ejected by a massive steam explosion underneath it.  Apparently Soviet science more or less failed to realize their dump was rich enough in fissionables to become a de facto pile itself, or to think through what would happen with the accumulated ground water in the mine under an unmoderated atomic pile.

You're crazy!  Government can do no wrong. 

Capitalism is evil.  It does not exist on the goodwill it creates between producers and consumers.   

[BlueStateSaint]

In addition to Chernobyl, the USSR was the owner of the other greatest nuclear disaster in human history, involving what is generally believed to be a mineshaft full of nuclear waste being ejected by a massive steam explosion underneath it.  Apparently Soviet science more or less failed to realize their dump was rich enough in fissionables to become a de facto pile itself, or to think through what would happen with the accumulated ground water in the mine under an unmoderated atomic pile.

I never heard about this.  Either that, or I was totally ignorant of it.  Care to enlighten me?

[thundley4]

Same here, never heard of that.

[kenth]

These little bastards sit in their basements typing away on mass produced computers, eating corporation produced Hot Pockets and sucking down some corporation's beverages. They sit in such comfort, not straining a finger, much less break their backs just trying to survive as they do in non-western nations. Yet because they aren't able to snap their fingers and have every whim catered to, they decide that it must be capitalism in the way of their complete comfort.

The little bottom feeders are insatiable. It's never enough, and they don't see a problem giving government the power to take away from everyone else, so that if they aren't necessarily the recipient of those seizures, at least everyone else will be as miserable as they are.

[BlueStateSaint]

These little bastards sit in their basements typing away on mass produced computers, eating corporation produced Hot Pockets and sucking down some corporation's beverages. They sit in such comfort, not straining a finger, much less break their backs just trying to survive as they do in non-western nations. Yet because they aren't able to snap their fingers and have every whim catered to, they decide that it must be capitalism in the way of their complete comfort.

The little bottom feeders are insatiable. It's never enough, and they don't see a problem giving government the power to take away from everyone else, so that if they aren't necessarily the recipient of those seizures, at least everyone else will be as miserable as they are.

And that's their mission.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Same here, never heard of that.

For you and BSS:  http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/Karabolka-Nuclear-Disaster23apr04.htm

Karabolka, near Chelyabinsk, a major center of the Soviet weapons program.

Sorry for the somewhat moonbatty source, however it is a web repub of a real newspaper article, and you can find plenty more by just Googling 'Soviet Nuclear Disasters,' though of course you'll get more hits for Chernobyl than anything else doing that.

[Attero Dominatus]

For you and BSS:  http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/Karabolka-Nuclear-Disaster23apr04.htm

Karabolka, near Chelyabinsk, a major center of the Soviet weapons program.

Sorry for the somewhat moonbatty source, however it is a web repub of a real newspaper article, and you can find plenty more by just Googling 'Soviet Nuclear Disasters,' though of course you'll get more hits for Chernobyl than anything else doing that.

I never heard of this disaster. Thanks for the link.

Children from fourth grade up were pressed into service. Many "young liquidators," as they came to be known, died of radiation-related diseases soon after the blast, which few people know about even today.

And the leftards call American soldiers and the past administration 'child killers.'

[AllosaursRus]

For you and BSS:  http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/Karabolka-Nuclear-Disaster23apr04.htm

Karabolka, near Chelyabinsk, a major center of the Soviet weapons program.

Sorry for the somewhat moonbatty source, however it is a web repub of a real newspaper article, and you can find plenty more by just Googling 'Soviet Nuclear Disasters,' though of course you'll get more hits for Chernobyl than anything else doing that.

Yep, pretty close to the China syndrome Auntie Jane was so worried about, and set nuclear tech behind in this country, that to this day has not recovered! The boogie man in the closet! Stupid whore! She, her pals Mike, and Jack really did a number on us!

[The Village Idiot]

I never heard of this disaster. Thanks for the link.

And the leftards call American soldiers and the past administration 'child killers.'

But it was OF THE PEOPLE wasn't it?? oh never mind. I can't even pretend to a DUmmie.

[NHSparky]

Dear DUmmies,

Too bad for you, when you "go to war", this is what it ends up looking like:



Only you're a lot uglier than Hugh Laurie.