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Career Change?
« on: April 23, 2010, 06:27:26 PM »
I was talking to a colleague of mine today and we were talking about jobs we've had....he made a good point...there are so many jobs out there that pay lots of money, without seeing depressing shit that we see all day long.   Now it's true you become immune to it after so many years and I've been in the medical profession for 20 years now...but the money is good so I never even thought about anything else.  I never did anything else.  Today's tumor board meeting's discussion was about one of our dying patients with metastazed lung Ca ...we both looked at eachother and rolled our eyes and confirmed our thoughts in the prior conversation....We see disease and sickness everyday, there has to be a better way to make a living.

So I went on Monster.com and applied to a bank Branch manager position...I probably don't have the qualifications for it...I do have the leadership skills and did work as teller when I went to college...but that hardly makes me qualified....but hey, you never know.   I won't even mind a small paycut as long as I can work banking hours and spend more time with my daughter.  But mostly, I get to dress up and my clients won't be patients.


Anyway, I may just be bored today...I really don't dislike my job...I like the interaction with people...but maybe something else is out there...

Anyone here change careers? for better or worse?

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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 07:27:14 PM »
I have been up and down the career ladder. Engineer to janitor to amusement park ride operator. Most jobs lasted 3 to 5 years. I have closed 4 plants for four different company's. I have been at my current job 12 years, but it looks like it might be ending this next week. I'll take a week or two off, there will be something else.

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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 11:01:27 PM »
Good luck Hawkgirl
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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2010, 03:13:30 PM »
Bah, I think I was bored last night...I will probably never leave my job.

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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 04:20:46 PM »
Bah, I think I was bored last night...I will probably never leave my job.

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2010, 04:41:44 PM »
Weird how you asked this.

There was a girl today at the "drying" table at the nail place and she was telling Runnin' Buddy and I about her job. She's an RN and for two years, worked on the oncology floor at the hospital that is connected to the cancer center affliated with MD Anderson.

She quit about 6 months ago because she got tired of coming home and crying. She's now working for a group of dermatogists in the Skin Wellness Center. Said she loves it. Even though there are still patients with really bad skin issues, she works normal business hours and not surrounded by death.

There are downsides to every job....banks get robbed and tellers get shot.

I went into real estate 13 years ago. I don't do open houses because the risk to my personal safet is not worth possibly getting an offer on the property by someone who comes to the open house. Nor do I put people in my car anymore, or meet someone at a house by myself.

Switch to a doctor's clinic or emergency clinic...you might not make as much money, but it might be a bit better emotionally.
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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 04:32:17 PM »

I went into real estate 13 years ago. I don't do open houses because the risk to my personal safet is not worth possibly getting an offer on the property by someone who comes to the open house. Nor do I put people in my car anymore, or meet someone at a house by myself.

 

Did something happen to you to make you so cautious....or has stuff happened to people you know?  I had no idea there were dangers associated with selling homes.

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 06:16:16 AM »
Did something happen to you to make you so cautious....or has stuff happened to people you know?  I had no idea there were dangers associated with selling homes.

In my first year, I did an open house in a new construction subdivision, in late fall. Open houses, at that time, were traditionally from 2-5 on Sunday afternoons. It was a rainy afternoon, no one was showing up, and this really creepy guy came in sometime after 4. I was alone in the house (about 3000 SF). I told him to look around and I would answer any questions. I didn't move out of the great room. Made the hair on the back of my neck go up. I decided to end the open house. Finally got him to leave, I locked the house, bolted to my car, and went back to the office. The agent I was doing the open house for, happened to call me at 4:45 to ask how the open house was going. I told her what had happened, she reamed me a new one for leaving the open house before scheduled time. Told her I wouldn't be doing anymore open houses for her. We have since both changed offices and are still in the same office. Took several years, but we get along.

Several years later, I was the list agent for a new condo subdivision. Had to be there every Sunday afternoon from 2-5. The model was at the very back. Some guy came in, creeped me out, left but kept driving through the rest of the afternoon. He never came back, and I continued to do the open houses for about a year. But I just decided, it just isn't worth my personal safety to sit in an empty house waiting to see who shows up. The bad thing about open houses is that they are advertised, it's logical to assume there is a real estate agent in there alone, and because it's advertised as being "open" anyone is allowed to come in....and even with a phone in your hand, it's going to take the cops longer to get there than it is for you to be seriously harmed.

We have been told ever since I started, to never meet someone that we don't know, without letting someone know where we are. There have been several times, I have asked one of my secretaries to call and check on me, when I have gone to show houses.

Female agents have been raped and/or killed all across the country. Whenever one is, we get an alert on our entry page into the mls warning us to be careful. I seem to remember one being killed here, not to long before I started. She was showing a new construction house.

We just recently had an alert, that a guy was stealing Rx's from open houses. Guy's is about 6'2" and 220lb. Not a lot of women can hold their own against someone that size.

I don't have a carry permit, but a lot of the agents do. I know several women that have them. Men have had them for years, but I'm amazed at how many women do, these days. Selling foreclosure properties, I know I should have one, but I also know that if I'm not prepared to use it, I shouldn't have one. 

I never do interior inspections on foreclosure property by myself anymore. Most of the times, M arranges his schedule to go with me. I have taken Runnin' Buddy with me on ones I need to do on the weekend. Just never know if the property is empty or if squatters are there, or some nasty critters. I had a lake house that I know had some critter living in the basement. It wasn't a foreclosure, but had a nasty ex husband involved....who carried a gun. M either met me there or went with me, every time I showed it....and he brought along a shotgun. I've had a foreclosure that was being used as a crack house. Hated, HATED going there. I only went 3 times....once by myself (but I didn't go in), once with M and once with the cops. The cops told me to avoid coming back there if possible. Thought it would take forever to sell, and it sold in about 7 days!

I have made a decision to just not go to several areas, it's just not worth getting shot. Surprisingly, I am safer down around Martin Luther King Blvd, than I am in some of the surrounding counties. M went with me a week or so ago, I had to take exterior pics on one house, and interior on another. We were in "hill country"....on the driveby M was saying...."take those pictures fast and let's get the hell out of here!!"

I was talking with one of the women who works at the Board of Realty a couple of weeks ago. She's been there forever, and is in charge of the mls, computer system and education. We both agreed that the business has changed so much in the last 4-5 years, and it just really isn't "fun" anymore. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the economy, but it's also we have to be so careful to "CYA" in case of lawsuits. If I could think of something else to do, make the money that I do for the hours I work, I would.
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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 11:05:06 PM »
Wow...I had no idea...but I suppose realtors, especially women who work alone....can be easy prey.  Glad to see you are being cautious.

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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 11:28:28 PM »
Wow...I had no idea...but I suppose realtors, especially women who work alone....can be easy prey.  Glad to see you are being cautious.

We had a woman realtor that was taken from an open house and murdered about 7 or 8 years ago .  It's still unsolved.

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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 11:33:49 PM »
I went to an open house a few weeks ago...the realtor was there...as well as the sellers...that's probably the best way to do it....but that's not feasible with foreclosure's I suppose. 

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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2010, 08:53:58 AM »
I went to an open house a few weeks ago...the realtor was there...as well as the sellers...that's probably the best way to do it....but that's not feasible with foreclosure's I suppose. 


No...with foreclosures, if still occupied when an agent is assigned the property...the agent offer the resident (it's not always the former owner) money on behalf of the bank to leave the premises within a certain amount of time, and in "broom clean" condition.

If the occupant has already left when the agent gets the assignment....the property is often trashed. With both personal items left and damage done to the property.

I go in either as the assigned agent, or as an agent evaluating the property. Even when evaluating the property, I'm often in there before the assigned agent has been able to get the property trashed out. I usually don't go before the locks have been changed.

I have gone into houses that have been "vacated" that have had personal property crammed up to the ceilings - gives new meaning to "hoarder"! The worst ones are when the houses have been purposely damaged....animal and/or human waste and/or insect - particularly flea - infested. It's been a cold winter, so bugs haven't been a problem for the last several months, but with the weather warming up so quickly it will be soon.

I have a $350k+ mountain chalet to do this week up at the edge of the Smokies. I'm trying to get into the property today as the report is due on Saturday. It's for a short sale, and is on a rental program so it should be in really good condition. These chalets range from 1 room sleeping 2 people, to huge ones that will sleep 30! So many of them were built, purchased by people out of state, for investment purposes (put on vacation rental programs - not time share) and/or future retirement homes. They have been built all over the place in Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge (where Dollywood is) and scattered around the park (Great Smoky Mountain Nat'l Park) and with the economy have been going into foreclosure or short sale as the owners just haven't made the payments or the builders haven't been able to sell them. Whole developments have gone on the auction block. I don't do these very often, as they are about an hour away and often very difficult to find. Took this one because it's from a new company that I've been trying to get work from for several months, and this is the first one they have sent to me that I have been able to get. They email the order to me, and I have one hour to accept, or they move to the next agent on their list.

Doing these reports and foreclosures are something that you could easily do. If you got your real estate license, got with a broker, and started applying to different companies that represent banks/lenders. Your schedule would be much easier to control than if you did regular real estate of listing new construction or resales, and working with buyers. On the positive, no advertising costs unless you wanted to, ironed jeans is "dressed up", little to no haggling over price or home inspections, high amount of work in Florida. On the negative, it's a ton of paperwork!! Sales contracts are 30 pages! However, you would have a lot of time with your daughter, as you essentially work for yourself, so you control your schedule. 
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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2010, 11:53:17 AM »
Slightly off-topic but my MIL finally sold her house yesterday -- she's been trying to sell it for 3 years!  :hi5: It's been such a huge albatross around her neck as the house sits on a very large lot that she's been killing herself trying to maintain (she's alone, way out in Cleveland). 
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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2010, 12:04:31 PM »
Slightly off-topic but my MIL finally sold her house yesterday -- she's been trying to sell it for 3 years!  :hi5: It's been such a huge albatross around her neck as the house sits on a very large lot that she's been killing herself trying to maintain (she's alone, way out in Cleveland). 


 :hi5: :hi5: :hi5:

Great news!!

My half-sister lives in Cuyahoga Falls part-time, and her kids are in that area too. I know their housing market has been really bad for several years.

Maybe your mom's house selling is an indication that things really are starting to improve!!
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2010, 12:51:05 PM »

 :hi5: :hi5: :hi5:

Great news!!

My half-sister lives in Cuyahoga Falls part-time, and her kids are in that area too. I know their housing market has been really bad for several years.

Maybe your mom's house selling is an indication that things really are starting to improve!!

I hope so but this sale definitely had to do with the home credit expiring Friday!  Whatever caused it, it's a good thing! Her health has been declining and she can't handle cold weather very well anymore, so good-bye Cleveland (North Olmsted suburb)! She's escaping to Fla. to live with her daughter, son-in-law and grandkids.
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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2010, 02:42:01 PM »
I hope so but this sale definitely had to do with the home credit expiring Friday!  Whatever caused it, it's a good thing! Her health has been declining and she can't handle cold weather very well anymore, so good-bye Cleveland (North Olmsted suburb)! She's escaping to Fla. to live with her daughter, son-in-law and grandkids.


There is a rush to get the home credit ending on Friday.

I wonder if Congress will extend it. The majority of people that are buying houses around here are getting the house credit.

Might take even longer for the already unstable housing market to semi stablize again if they don't. :(
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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2010, 04:01:51 PM »


Doing these reports and foreclosures are something that you could easily do. If you got your real estate license, got with a broker, and started applying to different companies that represent banks/lenders. Your schedule would be much easier to control than if you did regular real estate of listing new construction or resales, and working with buyers. On the positive, no advertising costs unless you wanted to, ironed jeans is "dressed up", little to no haggling over price or home inspections, high amount of work in Florida. On the negative, it's a ton of paperwork!! Sales contracts are 30 pages! However, you would have a lot of time with your daughter, as you essentially work for yourself, so you control your schedule. 

When the market was hot a few years ago...I was very close to signing up for aschool and getting a license to start on a part time basis.  I liked that I could make my own hours.  But then the housing bubble busted and I never considered it again.  I LOVE LOVE LOVE real estate...I am always looking at homes online and seeing pics...and I probably know all of the communities in my area and what the homes are selling for....but right now...the market is so dismal...although they said housing prices did go up .6% in February....it's still pretty bad.  Also, there are so many realtors out there now...so it's very competitive...especially in Florida.

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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2010, 05:04:03 PM »
When the market was hot a few years ago...I was very close to signing up for aschool and getting a license to start on a part time basis.  I liked that I could make my own hours.  But then the housing bubble busted and I never considered it again.  I LOVE LOVE LOVE real estate...I am always looking at homes online and seeing pics...and I probably know all of the communities in my area and what the homes are selling for....but right now...the market is so dismal...although they said housing prices did go up .6% in February....it's still pretty bad.  Also, there are so many realtors out there now...so it's very competitive...especially in Florida.

When we had a condo in Key West, I looked into getting licensed in FL as we have reciprocity and all I had to do was take the FL law course and if I got my broker's license here, I could go in as a broker there.

I talked to the primary company that I do BPO's (the reports I do) for and asked them what my chances were of doing BPO's there and they said great, as they were always looking for agents to do them. There's a big turnover in doing them, plus...they can't assign the same agent on a property more than once unless the requesting company asks for the same agent. Sometimes I will do a report that has been done 5 or 6 times before!

Depending on your financial situation, you may or may not be able to support yourself just doing the reports.

The market will eventually improve. However, by then, the number of agents will have decreased simply because they can't afford to stay a Realtor. If I didn't have the reports, I would have to find another job. If things don't get better soon, I may still have to.. :(

Look in to what it would cost you to get your license and become affiliated with a brokerage. It may be the thing for you to do, part time, particularly if you are anywhere near a point of reaching the number of years to retire from where you are. Does your hospital allow you to do 2-4 weekends a month and consider it enough to receive benefits?

Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.

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A balanced diet is chocolate in both hands.

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Re: Career Change?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2010, 05:35:00 PM »
Does your hospital allow you to do 2-4 weekends a month and consider it enough to receive benefits?



You need to work 20 hour to get medical benefits at my job...but my position is a full time position...there is no way around it...unless I want to get back into clinical...which I don'

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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2010, 06:03:54 PM »
You need to work 20 hour to get medical benefits at my job...but my position is a full time position...there is no way around it...unless I want to get back into clinical...which I don'

Oh.

A good friend's daughter is an oncology nurse in Oak Ridge. She works 15 hr shifts on Sat-Sun every weekend and that's considered full time. The hospital was desperate for good weekend coverage and this is what they came up with. She likes it and works part time at another job during the week.
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A balanced diet is chocolate in both hands.