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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2010, 05:02:38 PM »
Governor Brewer has more "balls" than all the male republican congressmen combined.... 

If Zero hates it, then it's a good law....

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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2010, 05:04:57 PM »
Another big riot, I mean, protest is being planned. Sharpton calls for civil disobediance!

There is an estimated 460,000 illegals in Arizona.

I think Sheriff Joe needs a couple more tent cities.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2010, 04:13:07 PM »
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2010/04/26/msnbc-news-flash-arizona-law-makes-it-crime-be-illegal-immigrant


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During the Monday 12PM ET hour of live coverage on MSNBC, anchor Contessa Brewer described the "firestorm" over a newly passed immigration law in Arizona and fretted: "does this lead to a situation where neighbors are turning in neighbors or families turning against families?" Later in the segment, a headline on screen read: "Law Makes it a Crime to be Illegal Immigrant."

Brewer discussed the issue with Democratic Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez and wondered: "Is this an effective way to deal with the problem?" In response, Sanchez declared: "to stop people and say, 'I think you look like an illegal immigrant' and then drag them off to jail is not the way to deal with this issue."



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2010/04/26/msnbc-news-flash-arizona-law-makes-it-crime-be-illegal-immigrant#ixzz0mF83jKvL


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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2010, 05:10:52 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/26/john-lott-arizona-immigration-law-fear-enforcement/?test=latestnews

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When Arizona's new law was signed on Friday, Hispanics demonstrated outside the state capitol in Phoenix, fearful of what it would mean for them. "If a cop sees them and they look Mexican, he's going to stop me," a 18-year-old Hispanic told the Associated Press. "What if people are U.S. citizens? They're going to be asking them if they have papers because of the color of their skin." The young man claimed that he was that even though he was a U.S. citizen he risked being arrested and put in jail.

Other news stories discuss Hispanics believing that they will have to have to carry multiple IDs to avoid prison. "Even if you're legal, you're in fear that maybe your driver's license isn't going to be enough or if you're walking down the street and the police stop you," a 21-year-old University of Arizona college student told CNN. "It's a constant fear we're living in and even legal citizens are afraid to go out."

But it is a dangerous game stirring up fears of people being hunted down and put in jail because of their race or nationality. The law specifically bans picking up someone just because they are Hispanic or even because the person was originally from Mexico or any other country you can read a copy of the law right here. Anyone arrested for a crime must have their immigration status determined before they are released. Thus, it is not just Hispanics who will be required to provide evidence of citizenship, but so will all whites, blacks and Asians. If the eligibility for public services depends on citizenship, again, everyone who applies, regardless of race, will have to provide an ID. In other circumstances, law enforcement officials must have reasonable suspicion, not based simply on the person's race or origin, that the individual is an illegal alien before they can ask to check someone's ID.



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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2010, 06:40:34 PM »
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Sharpton calls for civil disobediance!

Sharpton needs to be arrested and thrown in jail along with his illegal buddies.There aren't going to be any riots here, not with Sheriff Joe around.Besides the illegals here know that the general population is armed to the teeth.This isn't LA or DC.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2010, 07:52:59 PM »
Nah...let Sharpton call for a big sit in. Get them all in one place and surround them!
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2010, 08:23:10 PM »
The law says:
"A PERSON IS PRESUMED TO NOT BE AN ALIEN WHO IS
35 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IF THE PERSON PROVIDES TO THE LAW
36 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR AGENCY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
37 1. A VALID ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSE.
38 2. A VALID ARIZONA NONOPERATING IDENTIFICATION LICENSE.
39 3. A VALID TRIBAL ENROLLMENT CARD OR OTHER FORM OF TRIBAL
40 IDENTIFICATION.
41 4. IF THE ENTITY REQUIRES PROOF OF LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES
42 BEFORE ISSUANCE, ANY VALID UNITED STATES FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT
43 ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.
Here is the whole law http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf
How UNFAIR that you might be inconvenienced for 10 seconds in the course of a stop made for other reasons. Of course LEGAL aliens are already required to have their green card 24x7  :banghead:
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2010, 09:40:01 PM »
If they are legal and not breaking any laws, they have nothing to worry about. It is common sense.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2010, 10:10:22 PM »
"Yes officer here is my driver license, registration and proof of insurance."

Proof that I am not an illegal alien.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2010, 10:17:39 PM »
I saw one of the bastards on TV today saying, "this law is similar to what happened in Nazi Germany! (Nuremberg Laws)". I fail to see a correlation between a law being enacted upon people already in this country illegally and ones that were already full citizens of Germany during their passage.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2010, 11:15:46 PM »
Well if they are legal then why worry just keep your shit in order then you don't have to worry
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2010, 11:16:03 PM »
Quote from: Odin's Hand on April 26, 2010, 10:17:39 PM
I saw one of the bastards on TV today saying, "this law is similar to what happened in Nazi Germany! (Nuremberg Laws)". I fail to see a correlation between a law being enacted upon people already in this country illegally and ones that were already full citizens of Germany during their passage.

There is no correlation except in the minds of illegal alien supporters.The problem is that most of the people demonstrating and raising hell are not here illegally.Most illegals keep a low profile and pretty much mind their own business, except for the few who break our laws, get drunk and shoot at the lights that is. Arrest them all and deport them as far as I am concerned. They can start in the school system, the schools are lousy with illegals.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2010, 04:36:39 AM »
Are any Citizens or "legal" Aliens counter protesting these morons in AZ?
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2010, 06:05:59 AM »
Quote from: Ranger Rick on April 26, 2010, 10:10:22 PM
"Yes officer here is my driver license, registration and proof of insurance."

Proof that I am not an illegal alien.
I guess it's not fair to require the same thing from people who are actually breaking the law.   ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2010, 08:48:08 AM »
Quote from: ROCKURWORLD on April 27, 2010, 04:36:39 AM
Are any Citizens or "legal" Aliens counter protesting these morons in AZ?

If not, ICE had better make good use of such a "target rich environment"....
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2010, 09:14:00 AM »
Quote from: SilverOrchid on April 26, 2010, 09:40:01 PM
If they are legal and not breaking any laws, they have nothing to worry about. It is common sense.
I understand where you're coming from on this but I've never been able to accept this line of reasoning.

One could just as easily claim the 4th amendment ugarantees against the police entering your home to look for illegal drugs is just as dispensible so long as you do not have illegal drugs in your home.

Now, legal aliens are here by permission and a requirement of that permission is that they maintain on their persons such documents as may prove they retain that permission. It's akin to you having permission to dine in my home so long as you do not drink my last beer (not that I ever want to be found in the position of having a last beer).

But what about US citizens?

Well, when they are stopped for a traffic violation--a thing requiring probable cause--the law has a right to inspect for proper licensing but apart from the probable cause of an underlying offense this law properly protects the rights of me, the US citizen, who may be mistaken for a foreign rabbit...or worse: a ptarmigan.

I think the closest to thing to an immigration dragnet would be a DUI checkpoint.

It would be nice to see the law expanded to include enrollment in public services such as financial assistance and schools.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2010, 09:42:14 AM »
Quote from: Ranger Rick on April 26, 2010, 10:10:22 PM
"Yes officer here is my driver license, registration and proof of insurance."

Proof that I am not an illegal alien.

Actually having a drivers license does not prove you are legal. It should prove that you were once legal (in order to get the DL) but without checking someone's green card you really don't know.

I know GA requires people from another country to get a GA DL after 30 or 60 days.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2010, 10:39:52 AM »
But it is good, at best 5 years. The only "universal" Id is a passport. Interestingly expired ones are just as good.
Check the I9 list.

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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2010, 12:51:18 PM »
Mexico deports more people than we do.

Its a felony there to be an illegal.

Its also illegal for foreigners to engage in political rallies and protests and such.

We could use that law here.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2010, 02:44:49 PM »
Napolitano "Being in the U.S. Illegally is Not a Crime"
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The State of Arizona disagrees.  Tough titty.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2010, 05:12:51 PM »
The word "illegal" does mean something right?

You can't have a country without a border right?

Mexico is one of the toughest countries on illegal aliens, correct?

Does anyone else smell the hypocrisy??

We should go to Mexico and protest but that would be a felony down there.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2010, 11:28:28 PM »
Quote from: ROCKURWORLD on April 27, 2010, 04:36:39 AM
Are any Citizens or "legal" Aliens counter protesting these morons in AZ?

I haven't heard of any.The "protesters" will wear themselves out soon enough unless Al "race bait" Sharpton shows up. I'm sure he will stir shit up given half a chance. I would love to see him get arrested by sheriff Joe's boys, that would make my day.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2010, 03:21:18 AM »
And all 6 DUmmies watching at the time had no clue there was a glaring problem with such a statement.
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2010, 11:28:12 AM »
heh :evillaugh:
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Arizona Governor Gets Poll Bump Post Immigration Law

Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state shows that 56% now approve of the way Brewer is performing her role as governor. Two weeks ago, just 40% offered their approval.

http://www.nationalreview.com/the-feed/13181/arizona-governor-gets-poll-bump-post-immigration-law
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Re: Governor Brewer Caves? Press Conference set for 4:30
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2010, 04:06:23 PM »
Quote from: Bondai on April 27, 2010, 11:28:28 PM
I haven't heard of any.The "protesters" will wear themselves out soon enough unless Al "race bait" Sharpton shows up. I'm sure he will stir shit up given half a chance. I would love to see him get arrested by sheriff Joe's boys, that would make my day.

Someone should dump Al in a bucket of refried beans and send his ass packing to Mexico where he can protest the hell out of their policies for all of an hour when their cops show up and take him in.
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