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Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« on: April 21, 2010, 05:17:24 PM »
I like it when DUmmies are so brutally honest about their aspirations. It strips away all the equivocation and spin and euphemisms so people can see without question what they're really about. This one is gong to make the rounds on my e-mail list.

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Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
   
If "success" means amassing the largest possible share of the world's wealth and resources while doing your damndest to give back just as little as you can, then hell yes, let's punish that.

If "success" means considering yourself better or more deserving than your neighbor and looking down on those who don't share your genes, circumstances, values, or whatever else, then hell yes, let's punish that.

If "success" means treating yourself to every luxury you can manage while people in the world go hungry and homeless, and while claiming it's "their own fault," then hell yes, let's punish that.

If "success" means embracing a schoolyard value system that labels some people "winners" and others "losers" and using this to deny people the necessities of a decent life, then hell yes, let's punish that.

If "success" means supporting George Bush while he committed countless crimes and ran this country into the ground just so you could get a few dollars extra back on your tax return, then hell yes, let's punish that.

Punish success? If it's the right-wing American version, throw the book at it.

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Of course all the "ifs" above apply to anyone rich and successful. To moonbats, it's axiomatic that anyone successful has screwed someone else over in order to get there.

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1. Lets face it. "Success" means having a rich dad.
 
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2. Ding-ding. Ding-ding. Ding-ding. We have a winner.

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4. How about if success is rising from blue collar to factory owner...
   
or farmer's kid to neurosurgeon? Or welfare mom to internationally bestselling fantasy author?

Your punishment wouldn't distinguish between those who rise on their merits and that fantasy villain you seem to believe lurks behind every fat bank account.
 
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6. Everyone claims wealth is a meritocracy.
   
Every single wealthy person believes this. Whoopty-doo.

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55. Tax wealth, not work
   
Raise the capital gains tax
Raise the estate tax
Institute a bank bonus tax...

You get where I'm goin' with this?

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68. From those to whom much is given, much is expected in return.

"Given" by whom? "Expected in return" for what?

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102. A-****ING-MEN!!!


There's something I'm confused about because I've never seen a DUmmy adequately explain it: Say you confiscate all the wealth of "the rich" and redistribute it to the rest of the country, which would come out to, what, a few thousand for each man, women and child?

What's the next step?

Once that money is spent, what then? It's unlikely those who are the recipients of the largess are going to radically alter their lifestyles, become entrepreneurs and wealth-builders themselves, or do much of anything different than what they're already doing. So once the money is gone, what's the plan? The money for the stuff you buy with it is going to go right back into the pockets of the rich people who provide those goods and services to begin with. So do you then wait a couple of years until they're rich once more and then confiscate their wealth all over again? Is that the scheme for lifting up the lower classes? Let someone else put forth all the effort, then just take it away from them and give it to those who don't? How long is that cycle sustainable? How long will successful people tolerate that before they see the futility of their efforts and give up?

I'd really like an answer for this.
 
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 05:19:49 PM »

Bet the DUers would oppose taxing the Hollweird left.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 05:28:31 PM »
If "success" means a DUmmie goes from welfare to SSDI, then hell yes, let's punish that.

Hey, it would be a step up for a DUmmie therefore he should be punished.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2010, 05:38:11 PM »
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1. Lets face it. "Success" means having a rich dad.


**** you, we are considered "rich" by Obama's standards.  My husband paid for his own college (took us 10 years to pay off the loans).  I worked and made barely over minimum wage while he went to school (he went for 6 years by the way).  Ate spaghetti and butter for most of those years.  We borrowed $50 from his Dad ONCE while he was in college for diapers and formula for our son and his Dad told us we had to pay it back with my next paycheck (and we did).  We never borrowed another dime from him. 

After I had a stroke (I didn't have any insurance, yet I seemed to get excellent care) I watched kids to make extra money to pay off my medical bills and my husband's student loans.  I had monthly rheumatologist & sometimes neurologist visits and I would take every single one of the kids with me that I babysat (my husband would take off and take me to the doctor).  I would also take every single one of the kids with me to the grocery store.   So screw off you leech.  Most "rich" people did make it on their own.  DU'ers envy and hatred of the "rich" is really about anyone who has a little more than they do.  Imagine my hatred for them, they pay no taxes yet demand that we pay more.  I swear you loser Oregone, if I were ever to run into you IRL, I would rip your hair right off of your head. 
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2010, 05:57:57 PM »
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1. Lets face it. "Success" means having a rich dad.


IOW, it means being a Kennedy or a Rockefeller, eh....
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 06:19:41 PM »
Quote from: BEG on April 21, 2010, 05:38:11 PM


**** you, we are considered "rich" by Obama's standards.  My husband paid for his own college (took us 10 years to pay off the loans).  I worked and made barely over minimum wage while he went to school (he went for 6 years by the way).  Ate spaghetti and butter for most of those years.  We borrowed $50 from his Dad ONCE while he was in college for diapers and formula for our son and his Dad told us we had to pay it back with my next paycheck (and we did).  We never borrowed another dime from him. 

After I had a stroke (I didn't have any insurance, yet I seemed to get excellent care) I watched kids to make extra money to pay off my medical bills and my husband's student loans.  I had monthly rheumatologist & sometimes neurologist visits and I would take every single one of the kids with me that I babysat (my husband would take off and take me to the doctor).  I would also take every single one of the kids with me to the grocery store.   So screw off you leech.  Most "rich" people did make it on their own.  DU'ers envy and hatred of the "rich" is really about anyone who has a little more than they do.  Imagine my hatred for them, they pay no taxes yet demand that we pay more.  I swear you loser Oregone, if I were ever to run into you IRL, I would rip your hair right off of your head. 

Why stop there? Rip his head off.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 06:26:34 PM »
Quote from: blitzkrieg_17 on April 21, 2010, 06:19:41 PM
Why stop there? Rip his head off.

I just want to cause pain, not death. 
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 06:55:02 PM »
Quote from: BEG on April 21, 2010, 06:26:34 PM
I just want to cause pain, not death. 

But then we'll have to take care of his worthless ass.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 07:10:40 PM »
It's bad enough that democrat policy is to punish success, but they take it a step further and reward failure.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 07:15:17 PM »
Quote from: BEG on April 21, 2010, 05:38:11 PM


**** you, we are considered "rich" by Obama's standards.  My husband paid for his own college (took us 10 years to pay off the loans).  I worked and made barely over minimum wage while he went to school (he went for 6 years by the way).  Ate spaghetti and butter for most of those years.  We borrowed $50 from his Dad ONCE while he was in college for diapers and formula for our son and his Dad told us we had to pay it back with my next paycheck (and we did).  We never borrowed another dime from him. 

After I had a stroke (I didn't have any insurance, yet I seemed to get excellent care) I watched kids to make extra money to pay off my medical bills and my husband's student loans.  I had monthly rheumatologist & sometimes neurologist visits and I would take every single one of the kids with me that I babysat (my husband would take off and take me to the doctor).  I would also take every single one of the kids with me to the grocery store.   So screw off you leech.  Most "rich" people did make it on their own.  DU'ers envy and hatred of the "rich" is really about anyone who has a little more than they do.  Imagine my hatred for them, they pay no taxes yet demand that we pay more.  I swear you loser Oregone, if I were ever to run into you IRL, I would rip your hair right off of your head. 

Damn girl, this is a great post.   H5.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 07:25:47 PM »
Yep...punish it until everyone is a bitter,miserable loser like yourself.
You won`t be any better off but thank God you will feel better about being a useless piece of dog shit.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 07:29:20 PM »
Wait till these morons get the world economy they dream of.  Then they get to find out that 12K a year is rich to most of the world.  Finally, they will have to pay taxes
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 07:36:53 PM »
Quote from: BEG on April 21, 2010, 05:38:11 PM


**** you, we are considered "rich" by Obama's standards.  My husband paid for his own college (took us 10 years to pay off the loans).  I worked and made barely over minimum wage while he went to school (he went for 6 years by the way).  Ate spaghetti and butter for most of those years.  We borrowed $50 from his Dad ONCE while he was in college for diapers and formula for our son and his Dad told us we had to pay it back with my next paycheck (and we did).  We never borrowed another dime from him. 

After I had a stroke (I didn't have any insurance, yet I seemed to get excellent care) I watched kids to make extra money to pay off my medical bills and my husband's student loans.  I had monthly rheumatologist & sometimes neurologist visits and I would take every single one of the kids with me that I babysat (my husband would take off and take me to the doctor).  I would also take every single one of the kids with me to the grocery store.   So screw off you leech.  Most "rich" people did make it on their own.  DU'ers envy and hatred of the "rich" is really about anyone who has a little more than they do.  Imagine my hatred for them, they pay no taxes yet demand that we pay more.  I swear you loser Oregone, if I were ever to run into you IRL, I would rip your hair right off of your head. 


H5!  The only reason they define success the way they do is that they can't imagine a world in which things are earned.  They think if anyone else has anything, then it is because someone else gave it to them and that's "not fair" because they didn't get it.

Hey, DUmmies, that greed and envy looks good on you.  I wouldn't be caught dead wearing it but it looks good on you.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 07:44:09 PM »
Giving back is a good donk tradition.  Take for instance the benevolent kindness of VP Biden, almost .005 of his income. Or wait those used undies that the Clinton's gave to charity and then TOOK THE WRITE OFF.  The left very generous with OPM.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2010, 12:04:44 AM »
Imagine all they could do if George Soros actually paid taxes on all of his income?

It goes both ways you morons.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2010, 07:57:12 AM »
I ran across this late in the day yesterday, and didn't have time to bring it over.  Naturyl, the OP, has a red fist as his avatar.  Perfect. 
The whole thread brings the hard-core communists right out of the woodwork.  Mainer is the lone dissenting voice.  He calls himself a "wealthy socialist."  The foaming mob nearly takes his head off for it.  He apparently was born poor and made good, but none of that is good enough for the commie mob.  He finally said, "Sometimes I think these threads are started by GOPers trying to make us look bad."   :-)

To read the thread is really more chilling than entertaining, but if you're keeping a pulse on the enemy, it's a good source. 
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2010, 08:13:45 AM »
To the primitives, and liberals in general, "success" is defined by anyone who has a job and/or in any way is self-sufficient in that they don't need the gov't to oversee their lives.  Their idea of equality is having everyone dependent upon some governing body to dictate to them every waking moment of their lives (and if they can figure out a way for the gov't to tell you what to dream when your asleep, they'd do that, too).  Naturally, anyone who doesn't fit that mould is way too rich and successful.

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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2010, 08:17:16 AM »
Quote from: BEG on April 21, 2010, 05:38:11 PM


**** you, we are considered "rich" by Obama's standards.  My husband paid for his own college (took us 10 years to pay off the loans).  I worked and made barely over minimum wage while he went to school (he went for 6 years by the way).  Ate spaghetti and butter for most of those years.  We borrowed $50 from his Dad ONCE while he was in college for diapers and formula for our son and his Dad told us we had to pay it back with my next paycheck (and we did).  We never borrowed another dime from him. 

After I had a stroke (I didn't have any insurance, yet I seemed to get excellent care) I watched kids to make extra money to pay off my medical bills and my husband's student loans.  I had monthly rheumatologist & sometimes neurologist visits and I would take every single one of the kids with me that I babysat (my husband would take off and take me to the doctor).  I would also take every single one of the kids with me to the grocery store.   So screw off you leech.  Most "rich" people did make it on their own.  DU'ers envy and hatred of the "rich" is really about anyone who has a little more than they do.  Imagine my hatred for them, they pay no taxes yet demand that we pay more.  I swear you loser Oregone, if I were ever to run into you IRL, I would rip your hair right off of your head. 





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At a mixxed political dinner,AT MY HOME, a few months ago,I posited.If Obama took all the US currency and dumped it in a pile. Then began giving equal shares to EVERY AMERICAN. How long would it take before the ,Now rich ,were rich again and the now poor wrer poor again

What do ya think???

Me thinks it would not take very long
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2010, 09:22:29 AM »
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Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
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If "success" means considering yourself better or more deserving than your neighbor and looking down on those who don't share your genes, circumstances, values, or whatever else, then hell yes, let's punish that.
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Wow, it's not too often someone just comes right out and asks for a righteous ass-whipping like that!
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Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
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If "success" means considering yourself better or more deserving than your neighbor and looking down on those who don't share your genes, circumstances, values, or whatever else, then hell yes, let's punish that.
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Wow, it's not too often someone just comes right out and asks for a righteous ass-whipping like that!

The truly "successful" don't even think one way or another about being better or more deserving than their neighbor.  They are too busy working.  It is their neighbor (i.e. DU) who are so insecure, self-loathing and envious that all they can do is think about how rich their neighbor is and how they can get their money.

Same thing with race, they run around calling everyone racists because everything that happens in life is dependent on race for them.  It's not the continent of a person's character like Martin Luther King wanted, for them it has everything to do with the color of the person's skin.  Pathetic. 
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2010, 11:47:27 AM »
Every Spring, I take my Mother on the local garden tour.  This consists of touring about 5 homes, all of which are owned by REALLY WEALTHY people.  Mostly old money, as we can spot the new money right away by the furnishings (no books, bad art).  Not too much new money, because the neighborhoods are all always old money, and new money usually gravitates to the McMansion neighborhoods.

ANYWAY, I enjoy this day immensely.  I look at these homes, and the contents, and dream of which things I would (or would not) like to buy if I ever won the lottery.

I admire these homes and their owners, but I am not jealous.  That is the difference between me and a Moonbat.

On another note: these houses almost always have at least one clue as to the political affiliation of the owners- a photo, artwork, a book - and in sixteen years, I have NEVER been in one that obviously belongs to a democrat.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
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Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
   
If "success" means amassing the largest possible share of the world's wealth and resources while doing your damndest to give back just as little as you can, then hell yes, let's punish that.

Joe Biden must pay!

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If "success" means considering yourself better or more deserving than your neighbor and looking down on those who don't share your genes, circumstances, values, or whatever else, then hell yes, let's punish that.

Obama must pay!

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If "success" means treating yourself to every luxury you can manage while people in the world go hungry and homeless, and while claiming it's "their own fault," then hell yes, let's punish that.

Pelosi and Hillary must pay!

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If "success" means embracing a schoolyard value system that labels some people "winners" and others "losers" and using this to deny people the necessities of a decent life, then hell yes, let's punish that.

The democrat party must pay!

Wow, this DUmbass and I actually agree...   :-)
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2010, 01:05:33 PM »
Doesn't Mr. Pelosi own 51% of Del Monte?? Thats a good boycott target.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2010, 02:22:44 PM »
Of course the Little Goons want to tax success.  These are the same mental midgets that couldn't run a lemonade stand as kids...came in last in fundraising in HS Band and continually screw up wet dreams in their adult life.
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Re: Yes, absolutely, let's punish success.
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2010, 07:27:46 PM »
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Oregone  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Apr-21-10 11:00 AM
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1. Lets face it. "Success" means having a rich dad.
 
Kerrytravelers DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Apr-21-10 11:01 AM
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2. Ding-ding. Ding-ding. Ding-ding. We have a winner.

**** you.  **** you.  **** all you POS haters.

Rich?  Hardly.  Success means emulating the work ethic installed in me from the time I was a child--first by my father, who busted his ass 12, 14, 16 hours a day, sometimes 7 days a week, working in weather and conditions which would scare the shit out of you ****ing worthless basement-dwellers.  Then it meant putting that kind of effort in myself in the military, putting in the kind of hours at sea AND in port that would make you howl and whine like a dog that just got its nuts cut off without anesthesia.

And what did that work get me?  A relatively good-paying job with relatively decent job security, but one in which I must prove myself every day.  No "**** up, move up" for me--I do something stupid, unsafe, create a hostile work environment, I'm GONE.  And it's not some cush 9-5 job with a corner office.  It's 50, 60, even 70 hours a week, PLUS commute. 

For all that, I get the "privilege" of paying more in taxes in one year than most of you Cheeto-munchers have put into the system in your entire worthless window-licking, mouth-breathing, short-bus riding lives.  I'm up to my eyeballs in debt from an ex-wife who declared bankruptcy rather than pay her credit cards, so I get to pay them.  I'm putting money in my mother's pocket because she can barely afford where she is on SSI disability, and they take EVERY DIME she gets from SSI.  I'm then paying MY bills.  I get to take a long weekend somewhere MAYBE once every two years.  The rest of the time I'm busting my ass.  I'm not waiting for "da gubmint" to pay my mortgage, fund my lifestyle, or take care of the debts I have incurred or am paying.  But you seem to think that it's perfectly okay for me to fork over more than 40 percent of my paycheck to fund your lifestyle, then have the balls to come up and tell me I'm not paying ENOUGH????

And you wonder why the Tea Party folks are pissed.  Memo to the next person who tells me I'm not paying enough--hope your medical insurance is up to date.
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