11 Boo must have watched "Hamburger Hill" again

[The Village Idiot]

Stormy Daniels (who has, evidently, recently become a republican).

Like Arnold, Romney and Cris are Republican. Maybe she's a Michael Bloomberg/Log Cabin Republican?

She definitely isn't anyone I would associate with.

[thundley4]

I read the book  "Unintended Consequences" last week during the 4 days without internet service.  They had the right idea about waging a "war" against the government.

 

[DumbAss Tanker]

I read the book  "Unintended Consequences" last week during the 4 days without internet service.  They had the right idea about waging a "war" against the government.

I haven't read it, and since fiction has a way of coming out to support the author's prejudices I'm leery of relying on such stories for any real-world reasoning.  However it is certainly possible to fight a successful internal war here, especially as long as the government remains concerned about collateral damage and at least the pretense of rule-of-law.  However it's not possible to fight it the way 11Bozo is talking about, unless the armed forces themselves have been totally fractured.  For some interesting theoretical military thought on how it could work, I highly recommend Googling the concept of 'Leaderless resistance' and perusing the results.

[blitzkrieg_17]

I haven't read it, and since fiction has a way of coming out to support the author's prejudices I'm leery of relying on such stories for any real-world reasoning.  However it is certainly possible to fight a successful internal war here, especially as long as the government remains concerned about collateral damage and at least the pretense of rule-of-law.  However it's not possible to fight it the way 11Bozo is talking about, unless the armed forces themselves have been totally fractured.  For some interesting theoretical military thought on how it could work, I highly recommend Googling the concept of 'Leaderless resistance' and perusing the results.

I doubt 11Bravo served a day in the army. Regardless, his death threat can be traced back to him, and he may shit himself when the Feds come a callin'.

[Karin]

A DUmmie has a lame little fantasy.....

azureblue (269 posts)      Tue Apr-20-10 11:05 AM
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107. I see the pix of them in public with their guns, and in practically all of them, I see easy ways to take their guns away from them- guns carried in quick draw hip holsters, rifles slung over the back with a nylon strap, not paying attention at all to who is around them. The majority of them, all it would take would be two people, no hitting or violence involved, just one for distraction and the other to grab the gun. The majority of the gun nuts think that merely carrying a gun will protect them from assault. No, dude, you're just inviting it, when a thug sizes you up and sees you as an easy target. If it wasn't for the danger of it, I would love to see a few lefties sneak up on one of the gun nuts and take their gun away from them, slap a peace sticker on their foreheads, dis- assemble the gun and hand it back to them in pieces, just to prove the point.
 

Sheer goofiness! 

[BlueStateSaint]

A DUmmie has a lame little fantasy.....

Sheer goofiness! 

It is lame.  The protestors in DC didn't have loaded firearms.  The protestors in Alexandria didn't have loaded handguns.  The rifles could easily have been loaded, legally, from what I've heard (and quite a few were, also according to what I heard).

[ColonialMarine0431]

A little heads up for the Teabagger/Militia folks from one who once packed heat for Uncle Sam.

Probably more like "sucked meat".

Turn off MSNBC and step away from the remote.

[The Village Idiot]

I like hamburger

[Tucker]

azureblue (269 posts)      Tue Apr-20-10 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #23
107. I see the pix of them in public with their guns, and in practically all of them, I see easy ways to take their guns away from them- guns carried in quick draw hip holsters, rifles slung over the back with a nylon strap, not paying attention at all to who is around them. The majority of them, all it would take would be two people, no hitting or violence involved, just one for distraction and the other to grab the gun. The majority of the gun nuts think that merely carrying a gun will protect them from assault. No, dude, you're just inviting it, when a thug sizes you up and sees you as an easy target. If it wasn't for the danger of it, I would love to see a few lefties sneak up on one of the gun nuts and take their gun away from them, slap a peace sticker on their foreheads, dis- assemble the gun and hand it back to them in pieces, just to prove the point.

Be advised that in addition to the gun  I carry at the 4 O'clock position, I carry a Kahr P 380 in my pocket. If someone attempts to disarm me without legal authorization, they will get shot.

[skipuno]

I think things will have to get much worse before people even consider open conflict with the US government. If there ever was a second civil war, I think it would be like the last one, were many, including Robert E. Lee, left the US military to join the rebels.

[Odin's Hand]

A DUmmy coming up to CCW holder with ill-intent and an attempt at a menacing gait...one can only hope.

[dandi]

azureblue (269 posts)      Tue Apr-20-10 11:05 AM
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107. The majority of the gun nuts think that merely carrying a gun will protect them from assault. No, dude, you're just inviting it, when a thug sizes you up and sees you as an easy target.

You can take that particular liberal propaganda point and stick it up your ass.

I have news for you, stupid - a thug seeing a firearm will normally think twice before pulling any kind of stupid shit.  A thug will think three times if they live somewhere concealed carry is legal.  Any one that doesn't very rapidly becomes a self correcting problem.

The only way you invite a benefactor of liberal policies to try and take your property/harm you is to live in a blue hell hole that disarms the general populace.

If it wasn't for the danger of it...

Translation:  "If I didn't think for one second that unlawfully disarming a law abiding citizen wouldn't get me an express ticket to Hell..."

Funny thing, DUmbass, is that you'll think twice before attempting to disarm someone.  Sounds to me like a law abiding citizen, carrying their firearm, does not invite a "thug" (that would be you, DUmbass) to "assault" them.  Funny how that works, huh?   

I would love to see a few lefties sneak up on one of the gun nuts and take their gun away from them, slap a peace sticker on their foreheads, dis- assemble the gun and hand it back to them in pieces, just to prove the point.

You know, DUmbass, I would love to see them try that, too.  I really would.  Hell, I might even stand still for it.

I can't make any guarantees that my wife, who once packed heat for Uncle Sam, wouldn't fill your stupid asses full of military hardball, though...   

[ColonialMarine0431]

**** it, I haven't worn a green suit for almost 40 years, but I just might re-up for a chance to put one in the ten ring of a few of you jackasses.

Can he produce a DD-214?

[Odin's Hand]

WTF is gramps going to "re-up" into? The AARP militia?

[Tucker]

Can he produce a DD-214?

Blowing gas. He's too old to re-up, even if, and it's a big if, he's a vet.

Edit to add: Damn Odin. We posted at the same time.

[ColonialMarine0431]

Blowing gas. He's too old to re-up, even if, and it's a big if, he's a vet.

If he is a Vet, then we should pity him because clearly he's gone senile like John Murtha.

[Zafod]

I haven't worn a green suit for almost 40 years, but I just might re-up for a chance to put one in the ten ring of a few of you jackasses. 

you better pack a lunch because you are gonna be busy with me all day boy.....

[dandi]

There's not going to be any general armed uprising in this country as long as there's an intact Constitution and a functioning ballot box. Obama has done a lot of things to piss off conservatives but unless there's mass starvation or a suspension of rights no significant group of people are going to take up arms against a duly elected leader. Perhaps the occasional lone nut or small group like we've seen throughout history will act up, but that's about it. The Tea Party and associated groups are about asserting rights and showing solidarity. Their bearing arms is nothing more than that same assertion of the Second Ammendment. Liberals have never seen activism by conservatives on such a scale and it has them scared shitless that the silent majority is silent no longer. They've found out that mass demonstration is no longer their sole province. This has thoroughly flustered them. How dare we speak up!

All this talk of widespread violence is nothing but a wet dream on the part of liberals who would like nothing better than to see their opponents shot down like dogs. We know this is their mindset. We've witnessed it a thousand times as they celebrate the deaths of conservative figures and root against our troops under fire. Being the craven cowards they are, they could never hope to do it themselves so they are left to fantasize about their ultimate hero, Big Government, doing it.

As DAT pointed out, by the time conditions degenerated to the point where we're facing armed insurrection, the military itself would face a schism. Even if it wasn't in disarray at the time, the spectre of firing on their own countrymen, which may include their own fathers, sons, brothers, or creating collateral damage which could injure or kill any one of their families, would certainly cause such a rift. DUmmies are so caught up in their own stereotyping of the military that they actually believe they would mindlessly and joyously proceed in dealing death to anyone, even their loved ones, in the name of the Constitution. In reality it is nothing more than a reflection of their own nihilistic world view.

[Airwolf]

Correct me if I'm wrong...but I thought that Nixon had stopped the draft lottery by 1970?

D'oooohhhhhh It says right here that the 101st operatons in the A Shau were in 1969. Guess it sucks when some one like me that was in the 101st knows his units history. In fact my unit Co C 3rd Bn 187h was one of the units nearly wiped out on Hamburger Hill.


In view of the heavy casualties already sustained in the battle, Zais seriously considered stopping the attack on Dong Ap Bia. Although he was under great pressure from the unwanted attention of the press, he decided to continue the fight. Both his corps commander Lieutenant General Stilwell and the MACV commander, General Creighton Abrams, backed him. He decided to commit three fresh battalions- the 2/50 1st Infantry, 2/3d Infantry (1st ARVN Division), and 2/506th Infantry. The 3/187th Infantry's casualties to this point were staggering. Not counting replacements, Alpha and Bravo Companies had lost 50 percent of their original strength, while Charlie and Delta Companies had lost 80 percent. Furthermore, two of the four original company commanders were casualties, as well as eight of twelve platoon leaders.17 Considering these crippling losses, Zais initially decided to relieve the 3/187th Infantry with the 2/506th Infantry. Honeycutt, however, demanded that Zais allow the Rakkasans to take the mountain, and the division commander relented.18



http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~tpilsch/AirOps/AShau.html

[JohnnyReb]

D'oooohhhhhh It says right here that the 101st operatons in the A Shau were in 1969. Guess it sucks when some one like me that was in the 101st knows his units history. In fact my unit CoC 1st Bn 187h was one of the units nearly wiped out on Hamburger Hill.


http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~tpilsch/AirOps/AShau.html

But the memory is burned into his brain, burned just like John Kerry.








They both have smoked some good shit....and it burned some stuff into their brain that didn't happen.

[The Village Idiot]

I think you mean seared.

Burned is for CD's and DVD's, not brains, brains are delicate.

[JohnnyReb]

I think you mean seared.

Burned is for CD's and DVD's, not brains, brains are delicate.

I know what Kerry said but I just thought burned was actually closer to the truth... as in a "burned out dopehead".

[Tucker]

D'oooohhhhhh It says right here that the 101st operatons in the A Shau were in 1969. Guess it sucks when some one like me that was in the 101st knows his units history. In fact my unit Co C 3rd Bn 187h was one of the units nearly wiped out on Hamburger Hill.


In view of the heavy casualties already sustained in the battle, Zais seriously considered stopping the attack on Dong Ap Bia. Although he was under great pressure from the unwanted attention of the press, he decided to continue the fight. Both his corps commander Lieutenant General Stilwell and the MACV commander, General Creighton Abrams, backed him. He decided to commit three fresh battalions- the 2/50 1st Infantry, 2/3d Infantry (1st ARVN Division), and 2/506th Infantry. The 3/187th Infantry's casualties to this point were staggering. Not counting replacements, Alpha and Bravo Companies had lost 50 percent of their original strength, while Charlie and Delta Companies had lost 80 percent. Furthermore, two of the four original company commanders were casualties, as well as eight of twelve platoon leaders.17 Considering these crippling losses, Zais initially decided to relieve the 3/187th Infantry with the 2/506th Infantry. Honeycutt, however, demanded that Zais allow the Rakkasans to take the mountain, and the division commander relented.18



http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~tpilsch/AirOps/AShau.html

You really shouldn't disclose detailed info. 11 Boo will incorporate it into his Walter Mitty persona. 

[The Village Idiot]

I know what Kerry said but I just thought burned was actually closer to the truth... as in a "burned out dopehead".

true dat

[Tucker]

I think you mean seared.

Burned is for CD's and DVD's, not brains, brains are delicate.

If you ask me, all the primitives fried their brain.