Tea Party Movement Spreads To Military

[dandi]

Oh what a difference an election makes, Part II:

ProSense  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 08:57 PM
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Tea Party Movement Spreads To Military
   
Tea Party Movement Spreads To Military
Zachary Roth

The Tea Party movement has gained a foothold in the armed forces.

A new Tea Party group, Armed Forces Tea Party Patriots, has grown quickly since being launched last month by an active duty Marine Corps sergeant. The group, which vows to "stand up on the very soil we defended to preserve common sense conservatism and defend our Constitution that is threatened by a tyrannical government," currently has over 400 members, who have signed up through its Facebook page, though many are not active duty military. And it has close ties to the broader Tea Party movement.

"People in the military need to be heard," the group's prime organizer, Gary Stein -- a Marine Corps sergeant stationed at Camp Pendleton in southern California -- told TPMmuckraker in an interview. "Our opinions do count."

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Stein's political activism seems to have raised some concern among his superiors. Late last March, he wrote online: "Was just told by a Marine Corps Officer to watch what I say about Obama... I think not..." And later that same day: "I was just told to keep my opinons (sic) to myself about Obama, by my Officer-in-Charge (OIC)."

Indeed, Stein may be violating military policies that restrict political statements and activities by active duty personnel. "I've seen military command go against people on a lot less," Mike Lebowitz, a former JAG lawyer who's an expert on issues of military expression, told TPMmuckraker. Lebowitz said one key question is whether the activity is judged to be "partisan." Though the Tea Party movement has formed political parties in a few states, and has endorsed and supported candidates in some races, there's no evidence that Stein's group has done so.

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JuniperLea  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 08:58 PM
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1. They better be careful...
   
about how they talk about their Commander in Chief... just sayin'

jenmito  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:04 PM
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6. I hope they're NOT careful and get kicked out...
   
purge them from the military.

MUAD_DIB  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:23 PM
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9. Dishonorable discharge.

jenmito  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:26 PM
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11. Yup. I hope they ALL get that.

WinkyDink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:01 PM
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3. I think this constitutes grounds for a dishonorable discharge.

bluestateguy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:01 PM
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4. We have a Fifth Column in this country
   
and any active duty serviceman had not dare better utter critical remarks of their commander in chief.

A court martial will be slapped on their ass faster than they can say Leavenworth.

LakeSamish706  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:02 PM
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5. Send him to combat duty in Afghanista, that might shut him up. n/t

Canuckistanian  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:56 PM
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15. Soldiers are trained to carry out orders from their CIVILIAN CinC
   
If that isn't to their liking, they can STFU, resign or go AWOL and face a court martial.

That's the way the Armed forces work in America and that's how it's ALWAYS worked..

And God help us if that WASN'T the case.

Wait a minute, weren't they all for soldiers expressing themselves when Bush was prez? Didn't they hold that up as "courage?"

I guess it's only courageous if you're queer or want to shoot your officers.

[PatriotGame]

Funny, you ****TARD DUmmys went from this:



To this:

JuniperLea  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 08:58 PM
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1. They better be careful...
   
about how they talk about their Commander in Chief... just sayin'

All in the span of just 1.5 years and a single vote!
We have the guns and military on our side... just sayin;

[TheSarge]

I keep telling you guys that it's a different President...therefore the DUmmies and all Libtards implement a different set of rules.

[NHSparky]

Newsflash, DUmmies: As long as they don't refuse lawful orders and don't speak about him in uniform or in a derogatory/disrespectful manner, you're pretty much SOL.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Newsflash, DUmmies: As long as they don't refuse lawful orders and don't speak about him in uniform or in a derogatory/disrespectful manner, you're pretty much SOL.

We ne-e-ever do anything like that.

[USA4ME]

ProSense

The Tea Party movement has gained a foothold in the armed forces.

I'm betting it goes a whole lot deeper than that.  But you keep lying to yourself that he has some value, 'K?

.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Canuckistanian  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Apr-12-10 09:56 PM
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15. Soldiers are trained to carry out orders from their CIVILIAN CinC
   
If that isn't to their liking, they can STFU, resign or go AWOL and face a court martial.

That's the way the Armed forces work in America and that's how it's ALWAYS worked..

And God help us if that WASN'T the case.

An enlisted man can resign, and it's always been that way?  Really?

Shut your Molson-hole, you stupid Canadian moose turd, you don't know jack shit about the U.S. military and how it works.

[jinxmchue]

DUmmies display their hypocrisy once again.  So what else is new?

[dutch508]

Those ****sticks don't understand anything about the military.


Oh...and it's 400 and 1 now.

Tea Party in Colorado Springs on Thursday.

[JohnnyReb]

An enlisted man can resign, and it's always been that way?  Really?

Shut your Molson-hole, you stupid Canadian moose turd, you don't know jack shit about the U.S. military and how it works.

"Hay sarge, this here stuff is get'n a little rough....I think I want to resign....OK?"

 

[Wineslob]

DUmmies display their hypocrisy vast stupidity once again.  So what else is new?

Fixed!

[jinxmchue]

Okay, someone -- a lot of someones, in fact -- on the right needs to get on the ball and write about this group.  All I can find is fear-mongering "They're going to take over the country by force!!!" screed from the left.

[JohnnyReb]

Okay, someone -- a lot of someones, in fact -- on the right needs to get on the ball and write about this group.  All I can find is fear-mongering "They're going to take over the country by force!!!" screed from the left.

I think it would be much simplier if someone just shot the brains of the leftist regime that has taken over Washington....Bill Ayers should have been sent to prison 30+ years ago and then we wouldn't be having tis problem.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Those ****sticks don't understand anything about the military.


Oh...and it's 400 and 1 now.

Tea Party in Colorado Springs on Thursday.

Dammit, I wanna go.

Why does this always have to happen when I'm up to my ass in alligators?

Lemme know if you need someone from facilities to monitor things. We can ISR the speaking platform, make sure toilets are accessible...you know.

[dutch508]

Dammit, I wanna go.

Why does this always have to happen when I'm up to my ass in alligators?

Lemme know if you need someone from facilities to monitor things. We can ISR the speaking platform, make sure toilets are accessible...you know.

We are planning on attending. Our security cheif put out a warning about violence...guess which demographic he fits into.

[dutch508]

I highly recommend all those service people who are interested in joining this group do so.

The liberal hate shouters are out in full force trying to say military personnel do not have the right to be political.

[NHSparky]

I highly recommend all those service people who are interested in joining this group do so.

The liberal hate shouters are out in full force trying to say military personnel do not have the right to be political.

Hmmmm...for people who hate the military so much, they sure think they know a lot about it.

And, as usual, they couldn't be more wrong.

[dutch508]

Armed Forces Tea Party Patriots I would like to thank everyone for their support of the Armed Forces and the Tea party Movement... as we will taking down this fan Page at 1300 local California Time.

that is in one minute.

as far as I can tell it is gone now.

[NHSparky]

that is in one minute.

as far as I can tell it is gone now.

I'll bet those asshole DUmmies think that somehow, that's a good thing they just did.

[dutch508]

I'll bet those ******* DUmmies think that somehow, that's a good thing they just did.

I got an e-mail from a reporter in San Deigo about the whole thing. Seems what I wrote struck a cord...

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

that is in one minute.

as far as I can tell it is gone now.

So what's to stop someone else from setting up a FB group?

Is it running afoulf of UCMJ or an order?

[NHSparky]

So what's to stop someone else from setting up a FB group?

Is it running afoulf of UCMJ or an order?

Sounds like some asshole SNCO or officer got his panties in a wad.  Wouldn't be the first time.

[dutch508]

Could be various reasons.

regardless the group is gone- free speach silenced.


The leftists must be cheering themselves horse.

[NHSparky]

Could be various reasons.

regardless the group is gone- free speach silenced.


The leftists must be cheering themselves horse.

What exactly did you write about that the SD Union-Tribune called you up/e-mailed you?  Or was it a TV reporter?

[dutch508]

What exactly did you write about that the SD Union-Tribune called you up/e-mailed you?  Or was it a TV reporter?

Basicly what I wrote is that military personnel need to be pro-active in politics as we are the first ones to suffer when politics fail.

I also countered a few posts that said military members should have no political doings.

I also said that while President Obama was elected to the office and is the CiC, there is no reason why any service member can not disagree with his polices. Obeying a lawful order does not mean lockstep obedience.

I also said while the leftist are always calling the tea party members mindless drones and racist white power haters, it is the left who doesn't want you to think, but follow blindly along with their talking points.

There was more- but that is what I remember for the moment.