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NJSecularist (1000+ posts)      Sun Mar-16-08 02:27 PM
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Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
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The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in Florida shows John McCain holding a four-percentage point lead over Barack Obama and a seven- percentage point lead over Hillary Clinton. It’s McCain 47% Obama 43% and McCain 47% Clinton 40%. For Obama, this reflects a significant improvement compared to polling in February. For Clinton, little has changed.

The top three issues in the state are the economy, the War in Iraq, and National Security. Forty-seven percent (47%) say the economy is most important, 17% name Iraq, and 11% National Security. Nine percent (9%) say Immigration is the top issue while 5% say Health Care.

Among voters who consider the economy as the highest priority, Clinton enjoys a three-point advantage over McCain while Obama holds a six-point edge. Just 13% of Florida voters rate the U.S. economy as good or excellent. Thirty-four percent (34%) say fair, 49% poor. Ten percent (10%) say the economy is getting better while 74% say it is getting worse. Nationally, the Rasmussen Consumer Index shows consumer confidence near its lowest level of the past seven years.

Among voters who view the War in Iraq as the biggest voting issue of Election 2008, Clinton has a thirteen percentage point advantage over McCain and Obama leads the Republican hopeful by twenty-four points. However, among those who say National Security is most important, McCain leads Clinton 94% to 6% and Obama 89% to 5%.

 
  Fairly standard report of a poll which may or may not bear some relation to reality.  These responses are great.  :-)

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bluestateguy (1000+ posts)       Sun Mar-16-08 02:30 PM
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2. Once again, Rasmussen is out of control and needs to be stopped
 There are too many pollsters, and too many polls. This must be made to stop with legislation if necessary. 
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FARAFIELD (885 posts)      Sun Mar-16-08 02:56 PM
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16. yeah I dont see how we win that state
 Just win OHIO and we have the game I think she has a better chance to win FLA, but a much worse shot at picking up NEVADA< COLORADO, IOWA, which we need to win. **** FLORIDA anyway they cant even get a DEM primary right, alot of people forget that if they had kept to the rules they would have been the only game in town.
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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 02:46:29 PM »
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts)       Sun Mar-16-08 02:30 PM
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2. Once again, Rasmussen is out of control and needs to be stopped
 There are too many pollsters, and too many polls. This must be made to stop with legislation if necessary.

This from a group that wails on and on every day about how their freedoms and rights are being taken away. ::)

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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2008, 02:55:25 PM »
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts)       Sun Mar-16-08 02:30 PM
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2. Once again, Rasmussen is out of control and needs to be stopped
 There are too many pollsters, and too many polls. This must be made to stop with legislation if necessary.

This from a group that wails on and on every day about how their freedoms and rights are being taken away. ::)
Can you imagine the heads  that would explode if the Republicans introduced a bill to ban polling?



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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2008, 02:59:58 PM »
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts)       Sun Mar-16-08 02:30 PM
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2. Once again, Rasmussen is out of control and needs to be stopped
 There are too many pollsters, and too many polls. This must be made to stop with legislation if necessary.

This from a group that wails on and on every day about how their freedoms and rights are being taken away. ::)
Can you imagine the heads  that would explode if the Republicans introduced a bill to ban polling?

I believe too that Rasmussen was the most accurate in 2004 when it came to polling between President Bush and Sen.Kerry.

Maybe that is why these folks have their knickers in a twist. :-)

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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2008, 03:16:14 PM »

I believe too that Rasmussen was the most accurate in 2004 when it came to polling between President Bush and Sen.Kerry.

Maybe that is why these folks have their knickers in a twist. :-)

It is the Dems desire to control the flow of information. Even though the accuracy of polls is suspect as best, they feel that they can cause a bandwagon effect, and become self fulfilling prophecy if played right. This is why they 'DU' them - to try to create their own bandwagon through deceptive means. If the Poll isn't 'DUable' and does not reflect their will, it needs to be discredited, banned, or burned.

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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2008, 05:38:51 PM »
Some historical perspective, about polls, as I expect there to be some up-and-downs for us.

In August 1988, Michael Dukakis was leading George Bush (the first George Bush) in the polls by landslide margins.

In November 1988, George Bush won the presidency in the third Republican landslide in a row.

Sometime in mid-1968, Richard Nixon was leading in the polls by supersupersuperlandslide margins.

In November 1968, Richard Nixon barely beat out Hubert Humphrey by a razor-thin margin.....although one has to remember the big city machines created all these "votes" for the Democrat candidate, and so the margin was probably in reality not that narrow.

The polls are going to go up-and-down for us (and for the primitives), and it shouldn't be a great concern until a week or so before November 2008, where they're at, and of course one has to keep his eyes on Republican-run bastions such as Chicago and Detroit and Seattle and Lost Angeles and Pittsburgh and New Orleans and Miami and Philadelphia and Kansas City and Seattle and Milwaukee and Cleveland and Buffalo and Baltimore and St. Louis and &c., &c., &c., to be sure the Republican machines there aren't too productive at creating "votes."
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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2008, 07:02:30 PM »
Funny, they had noooo problems whatsoever with the polls when they all seemed to show that Bush and the war was unpopular, but once they go against them, the polls are evil! EEEEEEEVIIILLL!!!

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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2008, 07:14:33 PM »
Funny, they had noooo problems whatsoever with the polls when they all seemed to show that Bush and the war was unpopular, but once they go against them, the polls are evil! EEEEEEEVIIILLL!!!

Same with the screams for electroninc voting machines until they still lost.

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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2008, 07:38:02 PM »
I just don't trust polls because they are too easily manipulated, and they are often wrong.  They generally serve the purpose of entertaining me especially when the poll results lean in favor of the Dems.  They get all excited like they just saw Santa fly through the air in his sleigh.
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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2008, 07:56:17 PM »
They are good to a point, but I think they are based on an outdated paradigm of honesty in responses, many more people than in former times are likely to give answers they perceive as either expected and PC, or to just give false answers out of perversity for the sake of screwing with the pollsters just for the fun of it.  There are also huge problems with sample validity as more people go over to cell-only or VOIP phone connections and dispense entirely with published landline numbers, and therefore drop from public accessibility, and the distribution of those who do so cannot be assumed to even out across demographics.  Thirdly, all other problems aside, the speed of the current news cycle and its related spin cycle by the politicos and their flacks now outruns the completion cycle for the polls.

Ya can't write them off completely...but you'd also have to be an idiot to actually rely on them.
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Re: Rasmussen Florida - McLame: 47, Clinton: 40 ; McInsane: 47, Obama: 43
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2008, 10:29:11 AM »
Most national polls slant them by interviewing a greater percentage of democrats than republicans or independents.
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