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Offline jinxmchue

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Census update
« on: April 01, 2010, 12:39:45 PM »
The census bureau called and they ain't happy. I tried to tell them I was exercising our right to privacy. They cited the U.S. Code laws about filing out the census. I tried to tell them that the U.S. Code is lesser law than the Constitution, but unfortunately, I got mad and told them, "If you want the information so bad, come arrest me!" I then hung up. We'll see what happens now.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 12:58:38 PM »
Well, good luck on that.  Yipes!
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Re: Census update
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2010, 01:04:46 PM »
good luck!
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Re: Census update
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2010, 01:08:56 PM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on April 01, 2010, 12:39:45 PM
The census bureau called and they ain't happy. I tried to tell them I was exercising our right to privacy. They cited the U.S. Code laws about filing out the census. I tried to tell them that the U.S. Code is lesser law than the Constitution, but unfortunately, I got mad and told them, "If you want the information so bad, come arrest me!" I then hung up. We'll see what happens now.

$100.00 fine at worse IAW USC Title 13 section 221
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Re: Census update
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2010, 01:12:26 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on April 01, 2010, 01:08:56 PM
$100.00 fine at worse IAW USC Title 13 section 221

According to them, it was $100 per unanswered question plus possible jail time.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2010, 01:45:32 PM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on April 01, 2010, 01:12:26 PM
According to them, it was $100 per unanswered question plus possible jail time.

I'd make them show me that one...

Got another form in the mail today. That's what I get for slacking and mailing my first one out on Tuesday.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2010, 01:47:59 PM »
Quote from: Mike220 on April 01, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
I'd make them show me that one...

Got another form in the mail today. That's what I get for slacking and mailing my first one out on Tuesday.

I got another one yesterday, and the completed one is on my table.  I forgot to mail it.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 02:09:44 PM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on April 01, 2010, 01:12:26 PM
According to them, it was $100 per unanswered question plus possible jail time.

That is NOT what the code actually states.  They are trying to intimidate you.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 02:11:07 PM »
TITLE 13 > CHAPTER 7 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 221

§ 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers

(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.

(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.

(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2010, 04:48:04 PM »
Still seems like pointless obstinacy that's just running up the tax bill for the whole operation.  The sooner they're done the sooner they cut loose all the temp employees they hired.  I guess you are helping out employment in the Oconomy, though. 
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Re: Census update
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2010, 04:51:18 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 01, 2010, 04:48:04 PM
Still seems like pointless obstinacy that's just running up the tax bill for the whole operation.  The sooner they're done the sooner they cut loose all the temp employees they hired.  I guess you are helping out employment in the Oconomy, though. 

I will answer the question that pertains to how many live here.

No more no less.

The rest is quite frankly none of their damn business.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2010, 05:52:13 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on April 01, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
I will answer the question that pertains to how many live here.

No more no less.

The rest is quite frankly none of their damn business.

By law, that is all that is required, at least according to Judge Napolitano on Fox this morning.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2010, 05:58:55 PM »
You know, I haven't yet received a form to fill out.

Some weeks ago, I got notification that a form to fill out was coming soon in the mail, but that was, like, in February.

And no form to fill out yet.

One wonders if il Duce Bo doesn't want to count Republicans in the Sandhills of Nebraska.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2010, 06:36:44 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on April 01, 2010, 05:58:55 PM
You know, I haven't yet received a form to fill out.

Some weeks ago, I got notification that a form to fill out was coming soon in the mail, but that was, like, in February.

And no form to fill out yet.

One wonders if il Duce Bo doesn't want to count Republicans in the Sandhills of Nebraska.

I haven't recieved mine yet either, nor have I recieved a form telling me one was coming.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2010, 07:34:51 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on April 01, 2010, 06:36:44 PM
I haven't recieved mine yet either, nor have I recieved a form telling me one was coming.

Well we got a notice awhile ago that we would be *getting* a census form.

Then we *got the census form* and I filled ours out and returned it the next day.

Today we *got* a reminder to fill out another enclosed form and return it in another enclosed postage-paid envelope, if we had not done so.

Now, how much wasted manpower, paper and postage is *that* costing all of us,  I wonder...  It was probably cheaper 10 years ago when they just sent a census taker directly the first time.  As I recall, there were many, many more questions last time. 



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Re: Census update
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2010, 10:24:48 PM »
Got ours today and wasn't it supposed to be turned in today oops it just slipped my mind
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Re: Census update
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2010, 10:45:15 PM »
I didn't put my phone number. Guess I owe the gubmint $100. Guess I'll tack it on to the $3000 I apparently owe the VA.  :censored:
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Re: Census update
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2010, 10:58:23 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on April 01, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
I got another one yesterday, and the completed one is on my table.  I forgot to mail it.

We got two notices on the same day announcing we would be getting the census in a few days then we received two census forms.  We also got a post card telling us the census was "due soon" a few days ago.  The government wastes so much money.
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Re: Census update
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2010, 11:14:25 PM »
14 replies -- 14! -- and no one thought about the date.  April Fools, ya bunch of guppies!   :rotf:
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Re: Census update
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2010, 11:25:00 PM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on April 01, 2010, 11:14:25 PM
14 replies -- 14! -- and no one thought about the date.  April Fools, ya bunch of guppies!   :rotf:

Never thought about it that way :rotf:
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Re: Census update
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2010, 07:53:42 AM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on April 01, 2010, 11:14:25 PM
14 replies -- 14! -- and no one thought about the date.  April Fools, ya bunch of guppies!   :rotf:

Fine.  You win.   :tongue:

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Re: Census update
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2010, 01:26:53 PM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on April 01, 2010, 11:14:25 PM
14 replies -- 14! -- and no one thought about the date.  April Fools, ya bunch of guppies!   :rotf:

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