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Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« on: March 29, 2010, 05:06:04 PM »

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Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail 
 Don't send it a note. It might not get it.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/postal-se... /

Postal Service to Cut Saturday Delivery

Bad news, Netflix users: The U.S. Postal Service plans to see through plans to cut Saturday delivery. The USPS will present its regulator with a plan tomorrow that would cut Saturday delivery in the first half of 2011. USPS is hoping to save money, though the amount saved—$3.3 billion in the first year—is a mere chink in the $238 billion budget deficit that it faces by 2020. Post offices would remain open on Saturdays, and the postal service would continue processing and transporting mail, but it would not deliver it to homes and businesses. Congress currently requires six days of delivery and so will have to give USPS permission.
Read it at Business Week
Posted at 3:53 PM, Mar 29, 2010

Hmmm a government program that is failing?  What do the DUmmies think?

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JuniperLea  (1000+ posts)       

Mon Mar-29-10 05:16 PM
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2. Not surprising...
 When I was a kid the mail was delivered twice a day during the week, and there was no Saturday delivery at all.

I mail my NetFlix from the office... gets back same day or next day.

Funny how the term "afternoon mail" slipped right out of my lexicon without so much as a by your leave!

How do you do that?

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Mon Mar-29-10 05:17 PM
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4. kind of like that Cosby clean-underwear joke
 First they say it. Then they do it. You can tell every time they float a lead balloon that the decision is foregone.

I'm waiting for them to charge to mail but stop delivering altogether. Next stop? Three days a week instead of five. 

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Mon Mar-29-10 05:18 PM
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6. One can only hope that this might mean fewer bills...lololololololol
 and one extra day of leniency when one says "the check is in the mail".

Spoken like a true DUmmie

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Mon Mar-29-10 05:18 PM
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7. That's a bite, 
 Especially for people whose livelihood depends upon a regular mail service, six days a week.

Not to mention that the USPS is coming out with another rate hike on top of this.

It would be better, and more cost effective, for the USPS to get rid of the multiple layers of redundant administration that they've got built in to their business structure.

It would also help if they got much more fuel efficient delivery vehicles, something hybrid perhaps, rather than those massive monstrosities that I seem them running around in.

Hopefully the Congress will deny this cut in Saturday delivery, but given their record, probably not going to happen.

One wonders how that got in there??  You sure a private company couldn't do it better?

Oh well, maybe the DUmmies will eventually figure it out.

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 05:58:00 PM »
Barron's use to come on Saturday but since we got a new mail person it shows up anywhere from Monday to not at all.  But it is still more reliable than the paper route person was, that was semi-monthly if ever....

Junk mail manages to show up no matter what.  

My favorite mail person finally retired.  If they shut down the PO I will survive.   
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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 06:19:26 PM »
hi speed internet streaming, just watch them a little later.

'House of Fools' about an asylum in Chechnya during the war is what I am watching right now from Netflix streaming.

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 07:33:52 PM »
Barron's use to come on Saturday but since we got a new mail person it shows up anywhere from Monday to not at all.  But it is still more reliable than the paper route person was, that was semi-monthly if ever....

Junk mail manages to show up no matter what.  

My favorite mail person finally retired.  If they shut down the PO I will survive.   
Here in Red State Hell, I still have a mailman.

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 07:49:08 PM »
Here in Red State Hell, I still have a mailman.

Here in the People's Republic we have had quite an interesting carrier assortment of late.  (There was one quite fetching young red head but she didn't last long, dang.)  My old guy use to walk the route, mail was always here early in the day.  The new person(s) ride from house to house and mail shows up lots later (all that getting in and out, start and stop seems to take way more time).

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 10:43:51 PM »
and I just watched the cartoon "Metropolis" streaming from Netflix. Still have a little something in my eye. *sniff*

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 10:52:17 PM »
For many years our mail would be delivered anywhere from 2p.m. to 5p.m.  Just recently, specifically since there has been talk about stopping Saturday delivery, our mail has been coming between 10-11 a.m. every morning.  Strange, considering that there hasn't been a change in carriers.

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 07:14:44 AM »
What's a mailman?  Haven't seen one of those in ages.

The little town I lived in in NC closed at noon on Tuesday and then stayed open on Saturday- for the working folks.
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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 07:43:16 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8046283

How do you do that?

KC

The only way I see that possible is the DUmmy's workplace gets their mail from the same post office as Netflix. It would come in the door in the afternoon, and go right into Netflix's box.

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 08:10:22 AM »
Here in the People's Republic we have had quite an interesting carrier assortment of late.  (There was one quite fetching young red head but she didn't last long, dang.)  My old guy use to walk the route, mail was always here early in the day.  The new person(s) ride from house to house and mail shows up lots later (all that getting in and out, start and stop seems to take way more time).




My Mailman (or should i call him a fat lazy bastard) wont get out of his truck to put the mail in the letterbox on the curb if someone has parked in front of it. So if some douchebag parks in front of my mailbox I am SOL. THe fat bastard cant get out and walk 3 feet to the box. When I was a kid Mailmen or Lettercarriers (for the PC crowd) were mostly trim and in shape but now they are worse then me lol.
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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 08:19:38 AM »
Why would the post office operate efficently ?
Lets see.
 AmTrak .govn't run.......we know how that turned out.
The Mustang Ranch..........ONLY the govn't couldn't run a whore house and not show a profit.
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I belive it was Jimmy Carter who took funds out of the USPS to settle the deficit. The ONLY funds allowed to be used for such is TAXES!
So now when you purchase a so called postage stamp you are actually buying a TAX STAMP!
Just one way of raiseing your taxes without you actually knowing or being very up in arms about it.
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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 10:24:07 AM »
The JuniperLea primitive is showing her age, although her memory is faulty.

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2. Not surprising...

When I was a kid the mail was delivered twice a day during the week, and there was no Saturday delivery at all.

franksolich knows this only from stamp-collecting, not from his memory, which doesn't stretch back that far.

From the 1890s until sometime during the first Eisenhower administration (1953-1957), mail in cities and towns was delivered two times a day Monday-Friday and once on Saturday.  (Rural delivery areas got it only once a day, Monday-Saturday.)

It was quite possible--in fact, quite frequent--to get something in the morning mail, read it, respond to it, mail the response, and it would be delivered yet that same day.

Concurrent with the introduction of the four-cent first-class rate, the Post Office did away with twice-a-day delivery, anticipating saved costs.

The unintended consequence was increased costs in the forms of storage and warehousing; the mail had to sit around longer, and mail piles up.

This was exacerbated by abolishing the premium air-mail service, and making all first-class mail air-mail (sometime during the first Richard Nixon administration, 1969-1973, and concurrent with the introduction of the eight-cent first-class rate), which meant that mail went from, say, New York City to Los Angeles within a day (rather than three days).....but that had to sit around, it taking three days to go from addressor to addressee.

The net gain to consumer: increased postage rates, nothing more than that.
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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 10:41:40 AM »
Saturday mail is not all that important, I don't have a problem with cutting it.  However I also don't see a private venture doing the USPS job any better, the reason it loses money is that it is run to make sending mail cheap rather than reflecting the actual cost.  Whether privatized or kept inside the government on a required postitive-balance basis, the price of first-class postage would have to go up to a buck an ounce for that to work.

Amtrak is the same kind of deal, it is meant to preserve and provide a basic long-haul transportation capability at an affordable level, but really more as a fall-back or reserve capability because it would be virtually impossible to reconstitute it once it was completely gone and the need arose.  It's not able to go head-to-head against the airlines, and couldn't be sustainable against them commercially on that basis -- of course, air travel is massively subsidized itself, so it isn't really a valid comparison, but nobody ever brings that up in the discussion. 
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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 11:44:33 AM »
For many years our mail would be delivered anywhere from 2p.m. to 5p.m.  Just recently, specifically since there has been talk about stopping Saturday delivery, our mail has been coming between 10-11 a.m. every morning.  Strange, considering that there hasn't been a change in carriers.

The route you live on was probably redone.

USPS has been doing that constantly for the last couple of years as carriers retire and routes are condensed. It sound to me like you were at the tail-end of a route and are now in the front 25% or so of deliveries.


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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 12:38:10 PM »
hi speed internet streaming, just watch them a little later.

'House of Fools' about an asylum in Chechnya during the war is what I am watching right now from Netflix streaming.

Sorry for going off topic but did you like this movie?

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Re: Say Goodbye to Saturday Mail
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2010, 12:40:20 PM »
Sorry for going off topic but did you like this movie?

I actually did. As strange as it was I actually enjoyed it very much.

The main character keeps imagining Bryan Adams, the singer. Yes, he's in the film too. Then the Chechnyans take over the asylum after the doctors flee and one of them off handily and joking asks her to marry him. She and the other patients takes this seriously.

The asylum is, obviously, full of characters.
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