DUmmy takes on $kimmer/Wow ! Unknown DUmmie calls Skinner a liar !!

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zipplewrath  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-22-10 10:14 AM
Original message
You guys don't get it do you?
   
Skinner wrote this:

For the first time ever, the people of this country are making this promise to our fellow citizens: Affordable health coverage for everyone. ... Health care is now the responsibility of the United States Congress.

NO! You can't make that slight of hand, not with this bill. Health CARE is NOT the responsibility of Congress. They were very specific about that. We tried to make it so, but they dumped single payer, they dumped the public option, they included loop holes that allow people STILL to go uninsured.

Yes, they made it the OBLIGATION of all citizens to buy health INSURANCE. A few of those of meager means won't have to pay a penalty. THAT'S what this legislation does.

Health CARE is still an option. And this bill was heavily based upon the Dole/Baker plan that was SPECIFICALLY designed to BLOCK any attempt to make health care the responsibility of the government.

We've just established that health care is NOT a right, but purchasing insurance is an obligation. Purchasing insurance that's TOO good gets taxed.

Congratulations.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7983650

tallahasseedem  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-22-10 10:17 AM
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2. Did you seriously...
   
just call out Skinner? Wow. The guy knows his politics and for you to just throw his comments to the side like they are worthless is just ridiculous.

He will be banned soon count on it.

[thundley4]

zipplewrath   (1000+ posts)         Mon Mar-22-10 10:14 AM
Original message
You guys don't get it do you?
   

Skinner wrote this:

For the first time ever, the people of this country are making this promise to our fellow citizens: Affordable health coverage for everyone. ... Health care is now the responsibility of the United States Congress.

NO! You can't make that slight of hand, not with this bill. Health CARE is NOT the responsibility of Congress. They were very specific about that. We tried to make it so, but they dumped single payer, they dumped the public option, they included loop holes that allow people STILL to go uninsured.

Yes, they made it the OBLIGATION of all citizens to buy health INSURANCE. A few of those of meager means won't have to pay a penalty. THAT'S what this legislation does.

Health CARE is still an option. And this bill was heavily based upon the Dole/Baker plan that was SPECIFICALLY designed to BLOCK any attempt to make health care the responsibility of the government.

We've just established that health care is NOT a right, but purchasing insurance is an obligation. Purchasing insurance that's TOO good gets taxed.

Congratulations.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7983650

tallahasseedem   (1000+ posts)           Mon Mar-22-10 10:17 AM
Response to Original message
2. Did you seriously...
   
just call out Skinner? Wow. The guy knows his politics and for you to just throw his comments to the side like they are worthless is just ridiculous.

derby378   (1000+ posts)             Mon Mar-22-10 10:17 AM
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3. Not a right, but an obligation - I give that a +100
   
Poor Ted Kennedy. I'm fairly certain he didn't want the bill to turn out like this.

Screw Dead Ted, he's more worried about keeping cool and staying out of range of the pitchforks.  Not much of a bonfire.

[Chris]

Looks like someone needs to lay off the Zipple.

[JohnnyReb]

Was that a troll, a mole or did a DUmmie sober up for a moment.....

There will lots of jobs available in the granite/marble quarries.

[Karin]

Zip hasn't been banned.  But check out this exchange....  

ProSense  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-22-10 10:25 AM
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18. "We've just established that health care is NOT a right" Complete nonsense
 All Americans, including those with no income, will now have a right to care. Period.

  zipplewrath  (1000+ posts)     Mon Mar-22-10 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #18
26. No.
 It isn't there. This bill doesn't ensure that at all. Quite the opposite, for some, there is an allowance not to purchase health insurance if their income is too low and the cost too high. And there is no obligation for you to receive health care from anyone.

  
 ProSense  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-22-10 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #26
34. It most certainly does. Period. n/t

Period.  Cause I said so.  

I went back and read some more, it's not bad reading.  This ProSense character is one amazing idiot. 

[Ree]

This one made me laugh

Karmadillo  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-22-10 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #37
66. Actually, we would have attacked you for being off topic had you brought this up in Skinner's thread
   
Now, all we can do is say it was wrong of you to start a separate thread. But either way, we could still attack you and imply you're from Canada or you're a communist or a coffee grinder or something. You can't beat us. Our tactics and smears are infinite and people like you are always limited by the facts. You might as well surrender and join the Big Win. You have no chance, otherwise. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

[IassaFTots]

awwwww...........thanks for sharing that one Ree.  I needed a chuckle today.

[The Village Idiot]

I guess we can create a Tomb of the Unknown DUmmie when he eats stone