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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Mar-22-10 10:10 AMOriginal messageagain.....not ONE ****ing republican vote....NOT ONE they are truly the PARTY OF NOTHING.
erby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Mar-22-10 10:12 AMResponse to Original message2. Which is weird, because this was essentially THEIR bill They hammered Congress and vowed they wouldn't vote for the bill unless all these compromises were made, and they didn't vote for it, anyway.President Obama should be eating some serious crow this morning over his stubborn quest for bipartisanship.
If there was any bipartisanship here, it was in opposition to this atrocity. The only way this thing even had a chance was because of all the bribes, kickbacks, threats, backroom deals, and outright extortion...and those of the things we know about.
This is killing every Dem I know. They are terrified this is going to suck and suck HUGE and they have no fingers to point. Not one. They are trying to do damage control as quickly as they can but it's too late. They are all going to be fired.KC
That's the reason of this thread. They just want cover in case when it fails. They have majorities in both Houses, so why should they care how many republicans vote for this or any bill?
Well-intentioned but dim folks who say it doesn't matter if a democrat beats a "RINO" might want to recall that every single "RINO" voted "no". It makes a HUGE difference.
Sir, we are in the position we're in now, because for the past 20 years or longer, we've had "Republicans" who've been willing to sell out the Republic - "reach across the aisle", or "bi-partisanship" they call it - whenever the Marxists have put up their "baby-steps toward Socialism" legislation. Lord Zero couldn't have gotten what he got yesterday without all the RINO sellouts providing political cover during the baby-steps days.So great, they voted against the bill yesterday. So what? There are dozens of other votes they sold us out on, and for all of that, they need to be GONE.
So great, they voted against the bill yesterday. So what? There are dozens of other votes they sold us out on, and for all of that, they need to be GONE.
I never said they shouldn't be gone, but that's only a matter for the primary. The fact is, in the real world, the General Election choice will often come down to a "RINO" or a democrat. In that case, anyone who says it doesn't matter who wins is just DUmb. In today's political climate ANY Republican is vastly preferable to ANY democrat.
I disagree if the RINO in question helps the dems get what they want we may as well have a dem anyway. We somehow managed to reign in all the RINOs this time next time they may join the dems.
Rinos are usually leftist on one or two things, but most DimRats are leftist on nearly everything. There is still a difference.
But, with RINOs, the Republicans would have controlled the legislative agenda, and the HR"C" would never have come up, much less have been voted on. That one good enough for ya?
Depends on how many RINOS you have. If McCain was POTUS we would have cap and tax by now.
Perhaps. Perhaps not. Hell, even the Dems in the Senate were smart enough not to act on it.