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Offline Carl

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$10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« on: March 17, 2010, 08:14:41 PM »
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Lyric  (1000+ posts)          Wed Mar-17-10 08:42 PM
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$10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuses to recognize.
   
That's what my partner and I will be faced with shortly. As soon as all of this starts, I'll be able to let you all know firsthand what the experience is like for a truly poor family--except that since nobody wants to "push" for GLBT equality right now, we'll be a family living under the rules for a single person with no dependents.

My partner and I have a soon-to-be-ten year old son. She's 43, I'm 30, and we're both full-time college students. I go to school and then stay home in the evenings with our son (because childcare would cost about as much as I'd make at the jobs available around here anyway.) Rhythm goes to school during the day, then works evenings as a cook in a local pub for $8.00 an hour. It was the best job she could find that is walkable, because we don't have a car and the bus service in the evenings around here is not adequate for anything better. It's part-time; on a good week, she might get 25 hours.

We live as a married couple with a child--a family--but the government considers us to be two single people, one of whom has a dependent, while the other (legally) does not. Our son and I receive Medicaid (for now) because the government considers my school attendance to be a "good enough" excuse for not having a job right now, although as soon as my son is considered old enough to be home by himself in the evenings, that will change. Rhythm has no health insurance at all. She hasn't seen a doctor in years, even though her eyesight is diminishing and she has an acute family history of diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis. I live in terror that the diabetes and the eyesight problems are related, but we have no way to know for sure right now, and no way to DO anything about it even if we DID know.

Rhythm is not eligible for Medicaid because she's physically capable of working and does not have any *legal* dependents. We know this, because we've already tried applying for it (and my thanks to Midlodemocrat for doing her best to help us, even though it didn't work out.) She was denied. I've heard that the new rules raise the income qualification level, which is great, but thanks to the 1996 PRWORA Act (welfare reform), each state gets to decide its OWN qualification rules. The federal government's guidelines are not universally adhered to, nor do they need to be thanks to that act. On a side note, if Obama REALLY wants to make a difference for the poor, overturning PRWORA would be the most effective, humane thing that he could ever, ever do...

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...Her income is about $800 a month. Hers is the ONLY income we have, for reasons I explained above. We get a little extra in financial aid to help out, but not very much--it's enough to pay most of the rent every month. We have a boarder in our third bedroom who pays the rest of the rent for this place. Rhythm's income pays all utilities, a third of the groceries (my Food Stamps take care of the other 2/3's) and all of the household item expenses (like toilet paper and soap--not stuff we can just stop buying.) That's it. We have no savings, no expendable income, and no "extra" money ANYWHERE. If you want to see a family that is LITERALLY living from one paycheck to another with nothing else to spare, well, welcome to my world.

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And other members of my family are screwed too, just in different ways. We're all poor, and this is going to hurt every single one of us with the exception of my dying Mom, who was approved for disability Medicaid today (thank god) although there's some red tape that might hurt us there, too. I really wish people would stop pretending like this bill is meant to help the poor. It isn't. It's meant to help certain select elements of the middle class, and a few poor people who meet strict guidelines and live in compassionate states with lenient Medicaid qualification rules MIGHT benefit too. Just as many (if not more) poor people stand a fair chance of getting nothing at all at best, or royally screwed at worst. GLBT and certain hetero couples (unmarried, cohabitating, with kids that are only the "legal dependents" of ONE partner) are getting the worst deal of all.

So I guess we'll just keep using the emergency room as the only healthcare available to us, and hope like hell that maybe SOMEDAY everyone else who's supposedly on "our" side will find it politically expedient to actually fight (which means RISKING something) for the equality and social justice that this nation SORELY lacks. I won't be holding my breath, but I suppose it's theoretically possible--IF we can elect some leaders who care more about doing the right thing NOW than about getting re-elected later. And that is probably the biggest and most unlikely IF of all.



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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)          Wed Mar-17-10 08:57 PM
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7. There are many things I hate about this country   
   chiefly how we are going BACKWARDS in so many things...

In the long run though, re healhcare, given how much the SS and Medicare bills sucked... yes they should get incrementally better... that is US History... not that this is any comfort right now.

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8. this should`t happen in the america...but it does
   
we are sold to the highest bidder.

Nope,just common sense that says the worst possible situation one chooses to be in doesn`t mean everyone else has to subsidize it.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 08:25:15 PM »
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My partner and I have a son

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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government re
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 08:31:39 PM »
Why doesn't one of them work full time while the other goes to school and has a part time job.  Then after one of them is finished with school the other can switch places.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government re
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 08:40:00 PM »
Quote from: BEG on March 17, 2010, 08:31:39 PM
Why doesn't one of them work full time while the other goes to school and has a part time job.  Then after one of them is finished with school the other can switch places.

Whaaaatttt?  A full time job for a DUmmie? That's sacrilegious .
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government re
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 08:40:35 PM »
Quote from: BEG on March 17, 2010, 08:31:39 PM
Why doesn't one of them work full time while the other goes to school and has a part time job.  Then after one of them is finished with school the other can switch places.
But that would make it so much harder to blame everyone else!
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 08:59:51 PM »
Why ?  Because Ms. Poetess/Writer puts herself first, her partner second and her son last.

They both look like they aren't missing many meals either. My son goes to school full time and works. If he can do it, anyone can.

You never hear her mention child support in any of her posts, it's always poor poor poor ME !

Some insight into how she thinks.  It's too long to post. 


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Her thought process is so screwed up.   
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 09:51:05 PM »
Where could we start with this one?? Just so much DUmmie in that post its incredibly tempting to think its a well thought out troll.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 10:03:12 PM »
Awwwww, isn't that cute? 

Is her girlfriend's name really Rhythm?  And her name is Lyric?   What do you think the son's name is? 

They don't have enough money to live on but they do have internet access. 

 :whatever:
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 10:21:32 PM »
Quote from: Traveshamockery on March 17, 2010, 10:03:12 PM
Awwwww, isn't that cute? 

Is her girlfriend's name really Rhythm?  And her name is Lyric?   What do you think the son's name is? 

They don't have enough money to live on but they do have internet access. 

 :whatever:


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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 10:29:11 PM »
Quote from: Traveshamockery on March 17, 2010, 10:03:12 PM
They don't have enough money to live on but they do have internet access. 

 :whatever:


Exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2010, 11:38:09 PM »
Thus exploding the myth that gays/lesbians have shitloads of disposable income.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 11:57:48 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on March 17, 2010, 11:38:09 PM
Thus exploding the myth that gays/lesbians have shitloads of disposable income.

Especially if they're lifelong students.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2010, 01:44:38 AM »
Quote from: FGL on March 17, 2010, 11:57:48 PM
Especially if they're lifelong students.

Exactly.  30 and 45 is old enough to figure out what you want to do in life....   :loser:

I guess they haven't "found themselves" yet.  ( I first heard this back in the 70's, and I STILL have no idea what it means....)
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2010, 02:25:53 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2010, 08:14:22 AM »
Quote from: shadeaux on March 17, 2010, 08:59:51 PM
Why ?  Because Ms. Poetess/Writer puts herself first, her partner second and her son last.

They both look like they aren't missing many meals either. My son goes to school full time and works. If he can do it, anyone can.

You never hear her mention child support in any of her posts, it's always poor poor poor ME !

Some insight into how she thinks.  It's too long to post. 


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7103510


Her thought process is so screwed up.   

I'm a full time student and I'm deployed, working anywhere from 10-16 hours at a stretch.  Only words I have for them is "This is the world's tiniest violin..."
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2010, 08:26:28 AM »
Quote from: Traveshamockery on March 17, 2010, 10:03:12 PM
Is her girlfriend's name really Rhythm?  And her name is Lyric?   What do you think the son's name is? 


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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 08:38:29 AM »
Good Lord have mercy.  Get a freaking job.  You are whining because you don't have money.  If you had a job you would have money.  All of this GLBT-married-raising-a-kid-college-student whiny crap is just a smoke screen for your laziness.  Actions bring reward or consequences.  If you don't want to work, don't come bitching to me that you don't have any money.   :thatsright:
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 09:28:53 AM »
She's already getting a totally free ride, and she wants more? Who's supposed to pay for all this? Could she manage to squeeze a tear out for all the Americans who are just making enough to be taxed to pay for her fat useless azz?
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2010, 10:02:02 AM »
Good Lord, what a post.  One cannot realistically go through life as a perpetual college student.  Who's paying for the tuition?  Some sort of grant, presumably, paid for by someone else.  If she's miserable and poor, it's her own damned fault.  You have to postpone school for when you can afford it. 
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 10:25:35 AM »
Her little boy is SO cute.

I don't understand her way of thinking. When you can't afford food or shelter for your child, your dreams have to take a back seat.

DUmmies can be very selfish.

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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2010, 11:00:18 AM »
This shows how ridiculous DUmmies are. When I was in college I worked 32-40+ hours per week.


What's ironic is that they are on almost every form of public assistance available- yet this is not enough. I would argue they have been recognized. It sounds like she would like a 300,000$ salary on top of the welfare and a Mercedes. 
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2010, 11:38:41 AM »
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Rhythm is not eligible for Medicaid because she's physically capable of working and does not have any *legal* dependents.


Wonder of wonders!  Every once in awhile the gubbmint does the right thing.

Those two are why there is a tea party.  Enough is enough, already.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2010, 11:55:27 AM »
Quote from: shadeaux on March 17, 2010, 08:59:51 PM
They both look like they aren't missing many meals either.   

Where???

Are these the two large broads who go to WVU?
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2010, 02:08:44 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on March 18, 2010, 10:25:35 AM
Her little boy is SO cute.

The kid will be out of college before them.
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Re: $10 an hour? Try $8 an hour while caring for a family that the government refuse
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2010, 02:17:11 PM »
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Are these the two large broads who go to WVU?

Yes it is.
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