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If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly
« on: March 12, 2010, 02:46:23 PM »
If two pollsters, who worked for the two last Dem presidents, tell the Dems that they're headed for a cliff if they pass "health care reform," they really are.  The losses in the next three election cycles will be catastrophic.

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If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly

By Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen
Friday, March 12, 2010

In "The March of Folly," Barbara Tuchman asked, "Why do holders of high office so often act contrary to the way reason points and enlightened self-interest suggests?" Her assessment of self-deception -- "acting according to wish while not allowing oneself to be deflected by the facts" -- captures the conditions that are gripping President Obama and the Democratic Party leadership as they renew their efforts to enact health-care reform.

Their blind persistence in the face of reality threatens to turn this political march of folly into an electoral rout in November. In the wake of the stinging loss in Massachusetts, there was a moment when the president and the Democratic leadership seemed to realize the reality of the health-care situation. Yet like some seductive siren of Greek mythology, the lure of health-care reform has arisen again.

As pollsters to the past two Democratic presidents, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, respectively, we feel compelled to challenge the myths that seem to be prevailing in the political discourse and to once again urge a change in course before it is too late. At stake is the kind of mainstream, common-sense Democratic Party that we believe is crucial to the success of the American enterprise.

Bluntly put, this is the political reality:

First, the battle for public opinion has been lost. Comprehensive health care has been lost. If it fails, as appears possible, Democrats will face the brunt of the electorate's reaction. If it passes, however, Democrats will face a far greater calamitous reaction at the polls. Wishing, praying or pretending will not change these outcomes.

Lurking DUmmies, the Washington Post is decidedly not "right-wing."  Read and heed.  Your party is going to face 12 to 16 years in the wilderness if HCR does not pass--and 40 years in the political wilderness if it does pass.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031102904.html
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Re: If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 03:01:00 PM »
This is the second duplicate of the same story.

However.

However.

However.

It's so good it needs repeated three times here anyway.

Read the whole thing, folks; it'll hearten up all decent and civilized people.
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Re: If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 03:10:46 PM »
hehe  Seems several of us found this story! 

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Re: If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 03:11:39 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on March 12, 2010, 03:10:46 PM
hehe  Seems several of us found this story! 

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It's great, isn't it?
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Re: If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 03:31:18 PM »
Pat Caddell has been on Fox News quite often saying the Dems are going to be in trouble this year.  :cheersmate:
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Re: If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 04:06:12 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on March 12, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
It's great, isn't it?

I thought the story was outstanding!  I emailed the link to several people .... one of whom is a huge O'bama supporter.  He and I have been arguing about this Health Care Debacle for months now ... neither of us giving an inch.  When I sent him the link he answered back and told me he agreed with it!   :o

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Re: If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 11:01:48 AM »
Quote from: Texacon on March 12, 2010, 04:06:12 PM
I thought the story was outstanding!  I emailed the link to several people .... one of whom is a huge O'bama supporter.  He and I have been arguing about this Health Care Debacle for months now ... neither of us giving an inch.  When I sent him the link he answered back and told me he agreed with it!   :o

KC

Hi,

Limbaugh put it fairly simply.  They do not have the consent of the governed, they know it.  Now this is me speaking, if they push it anyway, which they are, then the public looks at it like they do communism.

Personally, I do not see this as a win/win.  Would much prefer it does not pass that be faced with trying to repeal the bill.

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