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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 01:34 AM#20 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009Original message I say pass the health care bill I have been opposed to the health care bill from the moment I realized it was essentially a "guarantee new customers for the health insurance companies" bill.But after considering it the past few days I say screw it - just pass the damn thing. We NEED reform.Our elected reps in congress promise they will make it better in the future with additional legislation. My gut tells me this is BS, but at this point I don't think we have any choice. It's this or nothing. (and sadly "nothing" will probably result in a complete meltdown of healthcare nationwide within the next 3-5 years leaving us all screwed)So I say pass it. But god help the party if this turns out to be nothing but a kickback to the health insurance corporations. There will be hell to pay at the polls in that case.... so I hope these bastards aren't screwing us around.
napi21 (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 01:47 AMResponse to Original message 1. I read most of the Senate's bill, and there are a lot of good things in it. I'm sure you have heard most of them. I was pleasantly surprised that there are mandates that out of pocket expenses per year of $2,000 for indivisuals & $4,000 for a family. Our current OP max on my husbands ins. is $3,000 per individual and there's no cap on per family, so if y7ou have several kids, it could get insane! I've read posts here on DU who have max OP of much higher. I want it to pass too. I guess we'll soon see.
NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 01:56 AMResponse to Original message 2. I say pass it. Shut the ****ers up, Mitch McConnell and Boehner, **** them.And watch them go down in November despite their fear-mongering.****ers.
shraby (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 02:15 AMResponse to Original message 3. Keep in mind that social security and medicare needed vast improvements when they started..we can't improve what we don't have. First pass a bill to build on and work from there. It looks like they will do good with the reconciliation bill after the main piece is passed. There is also big time talk of a public option bill..a couple of them. Sanders has one he wants to introduce and Grayson has a medicare for all.
PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 02:24 AMResponse to Original message 4. It's time There are so many reasons why we MUST pass it that even the grotesqueries of the damned thing (as it currently stands) pale in comparison. The reactionaries need to be seen fighting tooth-and-nail against the dire needs of the people, and they need to lose. Regardless of my disgust at the way the Administration's frittered away this opportunity and bungled other things with its infuriating need to be loved by everybody and half-assed corporatist molly-coddling, the Republicans need to be backhanded and shown as ineffective on top of all the rest of it.It needs to happen now, and it needs to be scrupulously done by legal means and within protocol, but it shouldn't be "nice" even if it can be.
JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 04:28 AMResponse to Original message 5. I say pass it and then look for new people to run against those in Congress and the White House who are playing the health insurance company's dirty game. I predict that Obama will lose in 2012. And after four years of disastrous Republican rule, Alan Grayson will be elected in 2016 and help America rediscover her soul.
girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 04:50 AMResponse to Original message 6. Pass it..then deal with the consequences: a Republican-controlled congress stripping away whatever minute good remains in the bill and leaving us with the worst bits.
Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 07:20 AMResponse to Original message 7. Yes, some reform is better than no reform.
JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-12-10 04:28 AMResponse to Original message 5. I say pass it and then look for new people to run against those in Congress and the White House who are playing the health insurance company's dirty game.I predict that Obama will lose in 2012. And after four years of disastrous Republican rule, Alan Grayson will be elected in 2016 and help America rediscover her soul.
Alan Grayson?!?!? LMAO
Curiously, there have been no further replies than what we have here. I would have expected this to be an enormous bonfire. 5 hours since last reply. I saw Alan Grayson's name, and my eyebrows shot up. Where the hell did that come from?
BTW, has anyone noticed in perusing the DUmp, any mention of the 4-5 year delay in so-called "benefits?" But taxes starting immediately? Anything?
