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Offline Carl

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Projection 101
« on: March 05, 2010, 06:25:21 PM »
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arbusto_baboso  (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-05-10 04:35 PM
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So what is it that makes a working class person support right-wing policy?
   
I just don't get it. Teabaggers would be so much better off if we had universal single-payer, yet they not only oppose, some of them even demonstrate against it. So on, with tax policies, military spending, and pretty much every other issue where progressives and conservatives disagree.

It isn't just prejudice, because we heard most of their crap when Clinton was in office (and he was no progressive). Is it fear of change? Being convinced that they could someday be one of the moneyed elite? Sheer stupidity and/or ignorance? What exactly?

When I see the ridicule for teabagger types, I too have participated in it. But my overwhelming feeling toward them is pity. They have no idea how hard they are screwing themselves and their children and grandchildren.

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muriel_volestrangler  (1000+ posts)          Fri Mar-05-10 04:41 PM
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4. A love of tradition
   which, if the tradition is "the rich control everything", means that what they'll support. You have got the major elements - fear of change is the partner of love of tradition, and they rationalise it to themselves with the conviction that they'll get rich themselves, which is somewhat stupid - a few will, but the vast majority won't.

Pretty much what one has to believe their lot will be under socialism given its historic record.

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RDANGELO (948 posts)          Fri Mar-05-10 04:45 PM
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9. They are hooked on the tribalism.
   Politically they are operating on the notion that their group or tribe is being threatened. Thats why they act they way that they do, and they don't make any sense. There is nothing logical in their thought process because it is all instinct.

Says a primitive. :rotf:

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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts)          Fri Mar-05-10 04:46 PM
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10. Fear, and Magical Thinking.
   Fear of being cheated, or that someone else (that strange, scary, or less deserving Other) will get what you have/take away what you have.

Magical Thinking: the spoon-fed mindset that they have to stick up for the Corporations and thier corporatist overlords, because they're gonna be rich and powerful "someday". Hence, their "ZOMG they're taking away our FREE-DOMZ!!!11" squawking.
That one may take the cake.

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Echo In Light  (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-05-10 05:02 PM
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18. Can't speak for the OP, but I find that anyone who places great trust in officialdom to be, well...
   ... gullible, easy led .. and it often appears that conservative/rightward types are, psychologically speaking, more so authoritarian in their psyche make up, making them more likely to exalt 'leaders,' just because.

On second thought

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Captain Hilts  (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-05-10 05:38 PM
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23. They think hard work will lead to success and that they will become successful. nt

Mmmm okay,not going to argue there.
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DebbieCDC  (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-05-10 05:53 PM
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29. Stupid and lazy
   Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 05:55 PM by DebbieCDC
Too stupid to know what's for their own good and what works against them. Too lazy because it's easier to flip the remote control than read a frigging book or a newspaper or online new sources.

Flame away. I'm tired of making excuses for these people. If you can read you can find out things. You don't have to rely on some paid human teleprompter to tell you what to think unless you're too stupid or lazy to seek out answers for yourself.

 :whatever:

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Ozymanithrax  (1000+ posts)          Fri Mar-05-10 06:56 PM
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32. Their poltics is religion...they believe in it...have faith in it...
   They do not think about it, and they certainly don't examine the effect of what they advocate.

Hard to pick the most ironic of the batch.

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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2010, 06:50:55 PM »
And the DUmpmonkeys religion is politics......communist/fascist/progressive statist.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 07:08:51 PM »
In the words of Mr. "T", "I pity duh fool."
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 07:14:37 PM »
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arbusto_baboso  (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-05-10 04:35 PM
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So what is it that makes a working class person support right-wing policy?
   
I just don't get it. Teabaggers would be so much better off if we had universal single-payer...

Yes, "teabaggers"=faggots might want single payer to pay for the sickness they get from their deviant, abhorrent lifestyle, but tell me, DUmmie ardassto babassto, why would any tea partier benefit from the gov't running their lives? Really, explain it you DUmbass...

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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 07:19:30 PM »
Yes, "teabaggers"=faggots might want single payer to pay for the sickness they get from their deviant, abhorrent lifestyle, but tell me, DUmmie ardassto babassto, why would any tea partier benefit from the gov't running their lives? Really, explain it you DUmbass...

They can't.  They just can't do it.  They can't wrap their minds around the idea of a smaller government and immediately jump to their "what about roads and fire departments and schools?" gibberish.  They have no concept of a limited government, because government is all they believe in.
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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 07:55:00 PM »
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They have no concept of a limited government, because government is all they believe in.

That's because they are a bunch of cowards/pussies...they have no idea what self-reliance means.
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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 08:07:07 PM »
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So what is it that makes a working class person support right-wing policy?


High taxes, morality, common sense.

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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 08:20:43 PM »
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arbusto_baboso  (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-05-10 04:35 PM
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So what is it that makes a working class person support right-wing policy?

From President Bush's first day in office you DUmmies and the liberal propagandists known as the mainstream media constantly screamed about the "terrible" Bush economy. In the "terrible" Bush economy my work load increased every year UNTIL the dems took control of congress. As soon as the dems took control my work load began to drop. When your lord and savior 0 took office my work load went down quicker than a DUmmie male in a homo bath house. In the "terrible" Bush economy I had money in my checking account and my savings account. In the "terrible" Bush economy my credit card balances were $0.

Since the dems took office my checking account and savings account are empty and my credit cards are maxxed out. I've down-graded my internet service. I've down-graded my cell phone service. I've cut one of my phone lines. I've down-graded my TV service. Soon I'll have to cut both TV and internet completely. I've gone from eating whatever I wanted in the "terrible" Bush economy to eating 39 cent a can soup from the discount store. If I survive until the end of the year without being out of work and/or bankrupt it will surprise me.

So can you see why I don't support your lunatic-left-wing policy? Or are you just to damned stupid?
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Re: Projection 101
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 09:31:49 PM »
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So what is it that makes a working class person support right-wing policy?
   
I just don't get it. Teabaggers would be so much better off if we had universal single-payer ...

Citizens would be better off with gov't running the oversight of medical needs?  Really?  And just how is handing over my freedom to choose to have insurance coverage, much less which insurance plan best fits the needs of my family, better for me?

I fully understand you libs have no problem forfeiting your freedom so that you don't have to concern yourself with having to think.  Goodness knows you've demonstrated your willingness to become slaves to the State time and time again.  But unlike you, I'm not interested in having Big Brother hold my hand through life, so the answer is no.

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Because third world peasant labor is a good thing.