primitives tell us who's going to defeat il Duce Bo in 2012

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x201845

Oh my.

The things the primitives think of.

Dinger  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 08:44 PM
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If You Had To Stake Your DU Membership On It, Who Would You Say WILL Be The repuke nominee in 2012?

I don't have a real clue, at least none I'd stake my DU membership on. Can anyone help me out? Thanks in advance.

secondwind  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 08:46 PM
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1. Thune or Romney.....but hey, THEY don't even know who will be their leader!

angelicwoman (51 posts)      Sat Feb-27-10 08:47 PM
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3. Rubio

Mojambo  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 08:47 PM
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4. Cantor, Thune, outside shot for Romney

He'll be white and rich.

lazarus  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-27-10 08:50 PM
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5. Bob McDonnell

new governor of Virginia. He's the most likely, for a variety of reasons.

northoftheborder  (28 posts)     Sat Feb-27-10 08:57 PM
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6. Bloomberg?

Enrique  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-27-10 09:01 PM
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7. Jim Bunning

saltpoint  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 09:06 PM
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8. Pawlenty. Certainly not because he's any good, but because Romney will see the Tea Party crazies gathering forces to run Palin on an indy third party, making his potential nomination uncompetitive with Obama.

Romney would make it close one-to-one against Obama. With Palin (or some other kook) leading a third party of nutbags and screeching secessionist morons, the percentage Romney needs to carry say, Pennsylvania, drops below the competition line. Obama sails in a field of three.

Huck acts like he's already out for good, which is fine with me.

Too early for Thune.

There's no guarantee for the Pukes that Obama will be sufficiently vulnerable to knock off.

Pawlenty picks up the torch and runs but loses.

Obama is a two-termer if he wishes to be.

Oregone  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-27-10 09:12 PM
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9. Brown or Romney

Brown is the tabula rasa guy who has momentum now, though no one knows anything about him

David Zephyr  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 09:14 PM
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10. Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush

In either order.

jenmito  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-27-10 09:19 PM
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12. John Thune.

craigmatic (106 posts)      Sat Feb-27-10 09:20 PM
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13. A bland guy like romney or some other blue state conservative guy from outside the south

JI7  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 10:41 PM
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25. Palin

dgibby  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 11:19 PM
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31. Don't count out DeMInt.

Rosa Luxemburg  (1000+ posts)       Sun Feb-28-10 12:50 AM
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35. L. Cheney?

harun  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-28-10 12:59 AM
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36. Jeb Bush

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-28-10 07:58 AM
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44. Palin/Jindal

In that order.

LeftyAndProud60 (253 posts)      Sun Feb-28-10 08:24 AM
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45. Thune. He actually makes Obama look like a dwarf. Appearances matter and that guy is tall as hell.

LeftyAndProud60 (253 posts)      Sun Feb-28-10 08:28 AM
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46. JEb Bush is my 2nd pick, then Rubio.

Jennicut  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-28-10 08:42 AM
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49. Romney, who else do they have at this point?

You know, I'm heartened by this poll of the primitives, who rarely get anything right.

No primitive thought of John Boehner, which means.....

But at any rate, we'll see; it's way too early yet.

[Specbid]

Mojambo  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 08:47 PM
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4. Cantor, Thune, outside shot for Romney

He'll be white and rich.

Unlike barry who's rich and half white.

[Specbid]

northoftheborder  (28 posts)     Sat Feb-27-10 08:57 PM
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6. Bloomberg?

Yeah, right...we wouldn't vote for Rudy, yet we'll vote for Bloomberg. northoftheborder, you're an idiot, even by DUmmie standards.

[Specbid]

Oregone  (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-27-10 09:12 PM
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9. Brown or Romney

Brown is the tabula rasa guy who has momentum now, though no one knows anything about him

Sorry, only DUmmies vote for 1st term senators.

Plus, his name is Brown, and you know how conservatives feel about "brown" people.

[miskie]

Well, I think it depends on a lot of factors still in play, and it also depends on what happens November of this year.

Right now the nation is going through a bout of anti-incumbent fever. Mainly the Dems are in trouble, but there are several Republicans who are also in hot water ( e.g. McCain )

Who America elects in November will shape the nominees of 2012 - If Republicans take both houses and force Obama down a more sensible road and the economy actually improves, and Obama regains his original popularity, the Republicans will likely run a weaker candidate against Obama, who will lose ( Such as was done with Bob Dole )

If The Republicans only take one house, it will effectively stall the march of Obama policies, but not allow sensible policy to be implemented either. The Nation will paint Obama as ineffective, and the Republicans will run a strong candidate who is particularly skilled in whatever Makes people the angriest about Obama. - For example, If it is still the economy, the nominee will probably be Romney. If it is war/terrorism, it will be a candidate with a strong military history-- etc etc..

In short, its still too early to tell.

[BlueStateSaint]

Miskie, I don't think Obama would change course at all.  He's too ideologically driven--and too arrogant--to deviate.  As it is now, he's said to a retiring Democrat House member that the big difference between 2010 and 1994 is that he wasn't on the scene in 1994.  When the candidates he backs get buried (for the most part) in November, he'll blame some flaw in those candidates.  His extreme ego won't allow for the possibility that he is why they lost. 

And, as to who the Republicans will put up against him, I'm of the mind that the Republicans are going to remember 1996, and the debacle with Bob Dole.  They won't repeat that mistake.  So, they're going to nominate someone who actually has some executive experience--a governor.  Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, and Mitt Romney all fit that bill.  But, there's a strike or several against every one of those.  Sarah Palin was the governor of Alaska for two years--not all that long.  Mitt Romney's conservative bona fides are in question, having been elected in Massachusetts.  Rick Perry has also had his conservative bona fides called into question, plus there's a fair number of voters that might use the fact that he's the Governor of Texas against him (as in, "George W. Bush was Governor of Texas, and look where that got us!").  Of those three, Perry's the best choice . . .

. . . but I'll throw another name out there.  Also a governor.  His state is one of two in the US that have showed budget surpluses in the economic downturn (the other is Texas).  That state is Indiana.  The Governor of Indiana?  Mitch Daniels.

I think that the Republican nominee will be Mitch Daniels.

[JohnnyReb]

I think the janitor, whatz his name, at the local high school stands a good chance.

[Chris_]

And, as to who the Republicans will put up against him, I'm of the mind that the Republicans are going to remember 1996, and the debacle with Bob Dole.  They won't repeat that mistake. 

If this is true, one wonders how John McCain worked out for them.............if there ever was a Bob Dole redux, it was him......

doc

[ColonialMarine0431]

Mojambo  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-27-10 08:47 PM
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4. Cantor, Thune, outside shot for Romney

He'll be white and rich.

What a dick. Take a good look at Congress. Most of them, Republican and DemocRAT are white and rich.

[jukin]

It will all depend on the state GOP and RNC closing the primaries.  If they do, we will get a strong candidate that will crush Obama. If not, we get a rino that will make the election a nail biter.

[Airwolf]

I don't know who it will be but I can bet it won't be McCain or Bloomberg.

[miskie]

Miskie, I don't think Obama would change course at all.  He's too ideologically driven--and too arrogant--to deviate.  As it is now, he's said to a retiring Democrat House member that the big difference between 2010 and 1994 is that he wasn't on the scene in 1994.  When the candidates he backs get buried (for the most part) in November, he'll blame some flaw in those candidates.  His extreme ego won't allow for the possibility that he is why they lost. 
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. . . but I'll throw another name out there.  Also a governor.  His state is one of two in the US that have showed budget surpluses in the economic downturn (the other is Texas).  That state is Indiana.  The Governor of Indiana?  Mitch Daniels.

I think that the Republican nominee will be Mitch Daniels.

I have to differ with you, but only slightly - Obama's vanity and desire for a win is so great that I believe he will change course for a victory, and claim that what he had gotten is what he always wanted. And the media will decree it rightly so - like they do with the Public Option issue,

Obama was NEVER for a Public Option - even though there are at least a dozen different recordings from then candidate Obama that disagree.

...

Daniels is interesting - Though I'm not convinced that the GOP will work to advance a Dark Horse candidate. Like the Democrats, the GOP like some degree of celebrity in their candidate.

[Ree]

I'm not so sure Obama will be the nominee in 12....

[Freeper]

Well, I think it depends on a lot of factors still in play, and it also depends on what happens November of this year.

Right now the nation is going through a bout of anti-incumbent fever. Mainly the Dems are in trouble, but there are several Republicans who are also in hot water ( e.g. McCain )

Who America elects in November will shape the nominees of 2012 - If Republicans take both houses and force Obama down a more sensible road and the economy actually improves, and Obama regains his original popularity, the Republicans will likely run a weaker candidate against Obama, who will lose ( Such as was done with Bob Dole )

If The Republicans only take one house, it will effectively stall the march of Obama policies, but not allow sensible policy to be implemented either. The Nation will paint Obama as ineffective, and the Republicans will run a strong candidate who is particularly skilled in whatever Makes people the angriest about Obama. - For example, If it is still the economy, the nominee will probably be Romney. If it is war/terrorism, it will be a candidate with a strong military history-- etc etc..

In short, its still too early to tell.

I posted a thread months ago suggesting if the GOP took both houses it could work out well for Obama but, I was reminded Obama won't be like Clinton and try to move to the center like he did.

[GOBUCKS]

I posted a thread months ago suggesting if the GOP took both houses it could work out well for Obama but, I was reminded Obama won't be like Clinton and try to move to the center like he did.

The Kenyan's best chance for re-election, regardless how disastrous the rest of his first term may be, lies with the Tea Party people. They are such a wild mix of conservatives, Paultards, Palinites, neo-Perotistas, idiot independents, and democrat moles, a huge portion of them is sure to be enraged with whomever the GOP nominates. A well-financed candidate from the Tea Partiers would guarantee a second term for the muslim, and the MSM is already laying the groundwork with the huge publicity given the Tea Parties. There will be a lot of funding available from sources that want a second term.  I think there's a better-than-even chance that we'll have to survive 8 years of the jug-eared muslim, thanks to a third-party split. Of course, none of that will matter if we have a candidate as weak as McCain or Dole, but I can't imagine that happening two elections in a row.

[BlueStateSaint]

I posted a thread months ago suggesting if the GOP took both houses it could work out well for Obama but, I was reminded Obama won't be like Clinton and try to move to the center like he did.

I was the one who mentioned that, among others . . .

I very seriously doubt that the Obamessiah would do that.  He may be a politician, but he's a fascist first.  He wants what he wants, and that's all.  It doesn't change.  I've heard that many Dem operatives who were around for Clinton's terms think that the Obamessiah is too much of an ideologue to ever tack back towards the center.

[delilahmused]

The Kenyan's best chance for re-election, regardless how disastrous the rest of his first term may be, lies with the Tea Party people. They are such a wild mix of conservatives, Paultards, Palinites, neo-Perotistas, idiot independents, and democrat moles, a huge portion of them is sure to be enraged with whomever the GOP nominates. A well-financed candidate from the Tea Partiers would guarantee a second term for the muslim, and the MSM is already laying the groundwork with the huge publicity given the Tea Parties. There will be a lot of funding available from sources that want a second term.  I think there's a better-than-even chance that we'll have to survive 8 years of the jug-eared muslim, thanks to a third-party split. Of course, none of that will matter if we have a candidate as weak as McCain or Dole, but I can't imagine that happening two elections in a row.

Hmmm...I never figured you for someone who was anti-Tea Party. I think they could be very good for the Republican party if they infiltrate. Most that I've been around have a good amount of common sense and see the futility of a 3rd party. Most I know would be considered "Reagan" conservatives. That said, if Obama continues on his same destructive path, I could run one of my roosters against him and win.

Cindie

[Karin]

BLOOMBERG?  Bloomberg?  Did that guy actually say that?  The political ignorance of the DUmp continues to astound me. 

Gobucks, I disagree with you about the Teaparty people.  You've painted them (and me) as wild eyed crazy people, just like an MSNBC commentator would.  We know what happened with Perot.  We also know the stakes are very, very high, and we cannot screw around.  Our feet are on the ground.  We want small government, fiscal sanity, and  a return to the constitution.  In my dealings with this crowd, I haven't seen secessionists, bigots, Ronulans, etc.  I've never even seen any politician's name on a sign, aside from Washington, Jefferson, et. al.  And, you know that Demorats don't make good moles, they could never fake the sincerity required. 

Frank, the name you mentioned is the one my husband's betting on, at least some day, and one that I too could support enthusiastically.   

[GOBUCKS]

I don't want to sound like PMSNBC, but I just don't see Tea Parties accomplishing anything at all, unless it's to pave the way for a second term, either through splitting the vote with a third party, or saddling the Republican Party with an unviable candidate. We should have a Republican congress by then, which would limit the damage the muslim can do, but a second term will mean a socialist Supreme Court for the next thirty years, socialist control of every federal appeals court, and the dismantling of our military. I hope the Tea Party folks give some thought to what that means. Winning in 2012 should be the only priority, not complaining about RINOs.

And Cindie's rooster can't beat the muslim. He has nearly 200 electoral votes from solid moonbat states no matter what happens. A third party split will absolutely guarantee his re-election.

[AllosaursRus]

The Kenyan's best chance for re-election, regardless how disastrous the rest of his first term may be, lies with the Tea Party people. They are such a wild mix of conservatives, Paultards, Palinites, neo-Perotistas, idiot independents, and democrat moles, a huge portion of them is sure to be enraged with whomever the GOP nominates. A well-financed candidate from the Tea Partiers would guarantee a second term for the muslim, and the MSM is already laying the groundwork with the huge publicity given the Tea Parties. There will be a lot of funding available from sources that want a second term.  I think there's a better-than-even chance that we'll have to survive 8 years of the jug-eared muslim, thanks to a third-party split. Of course, none of that will matter if we have a candidate as weak as McCain or Dole, but I can't imagine that happening two elections in a row.

Now hold on there, Bobbalouie! Most Tea Partiers know, if they try and split from the Repubs, it will do nothing more than re-elect the "Bummer".

Too many older voters have been voting Repub for generations, just like the DemonRats. Splitting away from the Republican party is not the answer. We just need to re-claim the party.

[delilahmused]

I don't want to sound like PMSNBC, but I just don't see Tea Parties accomplishing anything at all, unless it's to pave the way for a second term, either through splitting the vote with a third party, or saddling the Republican Party with an unviable candidate. We should have a Republican congress by then, which would limit the damage the muslim can do, but a second term will mean a socialist Supreme Court for the next thirty years, socialist control of every federal appeals court, and the dismantling of our military. I hope the Tea Party folks give some thought to what that means. Winning in 2012 should be the only priority, not complaining about RINOs.

And Cindie's rooster can't beat the muslim. He has nearly 200 electoral votes from solid moonbat states no matter what happens. A third party split will absolutely guarantee his re-election.

No one would have to complain about RINOs if the primaries work as they should. They only reason we ended up with John McCain is because many states who vote first allow anyone to vote in the Republican primary. It would be one thing if party members ONLY chose McCain, but that's not the case. By allowing this, Republican leaders in those states have betrayed every Republican who has to vote 2nd or 3rd. Primaries are for electing representatives of that party's political philosophy and political goals. I don't know ANYONE in the Tea Party movement that is suggesting a 3rd party. For many people, this is the first time they've been politically active because they've been smacked upside the head with the truly scary reality of Obama. Frankly, I'm not so sure McCain would've been all that different domestically than Obama. Over the years he's been very easily manipulated by the left and their sycophantic press. Their goal would be to make him a one term president while advancing their socialist ideas. His goal would've been to be fawned over for being a "maverick" willing to work withe the other side.

Cindie

[The Village Idiot]

If The Republicans only take one house, it will effectively stall the march of Obama policies, but not allow sensible policy to be implemented either. The Nation will paint Obama as ineffective, and the Republicans will run a strong candidate who is particularly skilled in whatever Makes people the angriest about Obama. - For example, If it is still the economy, the nominee will probably be Romney. If it is war/terrorism, it will be a candidate with a strong military history-- etc etc..

hahahahahha... Romney? RomneyCare is going to bankrupt Massataxes. Heck no.

[AprilRazz]

I say we run some of our fine conservatives that happen to be minorities. But for POTUS and VP. Wouldn't that send the hive into a tizzy?
Sowell, Rice, Jindal, Malkin, Steele and the like.

[BlueStateSaint]

I say we run some of our fine conservatives that happen to be minorities. But for POTUS and VP. Wouldn't that send the hive into a tizzy?
Sowell, Rice, Jindal, Malkin, Steele and the like.

Dr. Sowell is 75 years old, IIRC.  Condi Rice is pro-abortion, IIRC.  Michelle Malkin . . . now, there's someone I could support!  Besides, the only other conservative that would enrage the DUmb****s as much is Sarah Palin.

[Karin]

I don't think Dr. Sowell has any interest in such a thing.  I'd love to see him as an advisor in the inner circle.  IMO, he is one of the smartest people we've got in this country.  Every article I read from him, I say to myself, "he hit the nail on the head yet again." 

I also agree with Cindie, we need a primary system that works.  That eliminates any hollering for 3rd parties, which I'm not convinced is happening.  Non-primaries, such as the case in the NY23 incident, are also a problem.  Smoky back rooms are no way to run a consititutional republic.