primitives discuss San Francisco bus drivers

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7801439

Oh my.

n2doc  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-26-10 01:44 PM
Original message
 
Outrage grows over San Francisco Muni operators' pay 

The city's Muni operators are about to have one of those "uh-oh" moments. You know, that awkward instant when a group realizes that it overplayed its hand - badly.

Even in San Francisco, a union town where labor issues are treated with kid gloves, politicians and transit riders are teeing off on the drivers like they stole rent money from little old ladies.

"There is no question in my mind that they completely misread the public," Mayor Gavin Newsom said Wednesday. "Either they step up or the people of San Francisco will."

Riders have already seen fare hikes and service cuts and they may face them again thanks to Muni operators who rejected a proposal for a package of concessions that would have saved the agency $15 million over two years. Those savings could have temporarily reduced service cuts and some fee hikes.

But 575 operators voted in favor of the concessions and 857 were against the plan even though Muni operators are guaranteed an 8 percent raise. Their pay, protected by the city charter, ensures they are at least the second-highest paid operators in the nation.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/0...

Blue4Life (3 posts)      Fri Feb-26-10 02:05 PM
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1. California is self-destructing

1) Unions demanding greater-than-COLA/inflation-pay-raises
2) Hospitals unable to refuse services to people who will never pay
3) Mandated spending for medi-cal, pensions, welfare
4) Highest property tax rates/income in the country
5) Highest recycling/fees/sales-tax rates/income in the country

California is in serious trouble. We cant raise our taxes anymore, and the revenues are
dropping due to the economy and people leaving the state.

How much longer can we keep increasing the pay of government employees while
regular mom and pop business owners suffer?

557188 (456 posts)      Fri Feb-26-10 02:14 PM
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2. Is this a Republican board now?

Whoa.

2. is the most disgusting of your list. You want hospitals to refuse medical service to the poor?

Systematic Chaos  (1000+ posts)      Fri Feb-26-10 02:18 PM
THE GIGANTIC PRIMITIVE, #08 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #2

3. Why yes, these "Objectivist" mother****ers do.

They want the poor to go to "charity" if they can't pay for health care.

They seem to think that there is lots of this "charity" to go around.

Their grip on reality is, at best, highly tenuous.

One wonders if the gigantic primitive's keeping his grip on the exercycle.

Binka  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-26-10 02:18 PM
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4. No Shit

Puke4Life isn't gonna last very long IMHO.

blindpig  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-26-10 02:40 PM
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5. Tell ya what, I can fix all of that....
 
All California needs is a wealth tax, steeply graduated, with the highest bracket paying through the nose. Do that and folks could ride the bus for free.

How's that work for ya?

I don't think Bags Streisand, David Geffin, the C-Piggy primitive, the don't-go-there primitive (the "BeHereNow") primitive, the kaput primitive the "kpete" primitive, and the equestrian "tularetom" primitive, would be too keen on that idea, paying through the nose.

Binka  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-26-10 02:49 PM
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6. Great idea. Do you think Puke4Life will like it?

Edweird  (1000+ posts)      Fri Feb-26-10 02:54 PM
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8. Make that tax nationwide and include corporations - they are 'people' too.

demosincebirth  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-26-10 03:49 PM
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11. Increasing taxes on the wealthy will solve many problems in California and around the country.

Well, try selling that idea to your fellow primitives C-Peg, tularetom, BeHereNow, the kaput primitive.

Edweird  (1000+ posts)      Fri Feb-26-10 02:53 PM
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7. How much are they making? The article doesn't say. 

What's with all the union bashing here?

Binka  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-26-10 03:03 PM
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9. The Union Bashers Have A Certain Odor

Eau de TROLL. Kinda smells like cabbage and dog shit.

My, the primitives are such a welcoming bunch, aren't they?

I checked the story at the link, to see what the San Francisco bus drivers are paid; no information there.  Does anybody have an idea what they're paid?

[The Village Idiot]

I bet they are paid something like $52,000 the first year and get huge raises every year.

Caifornia cannot afford to raise taxes any more. Not unless they raise a retail tax on food to collect it from everyone.

I'd like to see them try and put in a new wealth tax. Then they'd soon find there was no more wealth to tax.

[JohnnyReb]

What's the San Fransissyco drivers union motto.....Blow and go?

[DefiantSix]

What's the San Fransissyco drivers union motto.....Blow and go?

Yup.

[Carl]

Yup.

Sooooooooo wrong. 



 

[GOBUCKS]

Systematic Chaos  (1000+ posts)      Fri Feb-26-10 02:18 PM
THE GIGANTIC PRIMITIVE, #08 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Response to Reply #2
3. Why yes, these "Objectivist" mother****ers do.

They want the poor to go to "charity" if they can't pay for health care.

They seem to think that there is lots of this "charity" to go around.

Their grip on reality is, at best, highly tenuous.

The LVL, all buttered up in a thick layer of Vagisil, doesn't have to worry about health care. He's pimped out the slave girl Jeanette to work for the phone scam company, and eats everything she makes. Then the taxpayers cover the rest of his expenses through his "disability" scam. He hardly neads any health care, since he discovered that feminine itch cream is the duct tape of over-the-counter remedies. That is, until the imminent, inevitable day when his incredibly overworked heart gives up on pumping blood through that immensely bloated carcass and explodes. A barrel of Vagisil won't fix that. Until that day, the lardass leviathan, like most democrat deadbeats, will be admirably generous with other peoples' money.