I'm going to stick my chin out there so DU'ers can take a swing at it for the um

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cherokeeprogressive  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list  Donate to DU!      Mon Feb-15-10 03:06 AM
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I'm going to stick my chin out there so DU'ers can take a swing at it for the umpteenth time...
   
I tend to keep my opinion to myself when it comes to "global warming" "global climate change" and the notion that parasites the likes of humans can make such an impact on an ecosystem the size of the earth so as to cause it to come to an end.

I do that for good reason as far as I'm concerned; Here at DU, if you're not totally on board with the notion that humans are causing climate change to the degree that all life on this planet will cease to exist in short order due to the actions of said humans, you're not only a "denier", you're a total ass, and your opinions are not only suspect, but possibly and most likely biased to the point of being paid for by someone who has a stake in CAUSING said end of human existence on this planet.

Phil Jones now says that his scientific pronouncements stem from flawed scientific methodology, specifically faulty record-keeping.

What. the. ****?

In his own words... "for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming". No wonder the ass has admitted to contemplating suicide.

Forgive me for being a skeptic, or not. I will though, since I'm just as good a "scientist" as Phil Jones, put forth this hypothesis concerning "global warming", "global climate change", or whatever it might be called next week or next year in order to make the description describe the claim: Tectonic shift which happens every second of every day of every week of every month of every year is causing the GROUND TEMPERATURE of Terra Firma to rise due to the proximity of magma to the earth's crust to such a degree as to warm the oceans from UNDERNEATH, therefore causing 5,000 foot thick glaciers to break due to less than 1 degree Fahrenheit rises in ambient air temperature.

Beat me up for what I think... Ask that I be banned from DU, even though I can't find anything in the rules that says I MUST be onboard with the notion that "global warming", "global climate change", or any other reason to believe that the snow I'm dealing with today is because of a change in climate SOMEWHERE ELSE even though 5' of snowfall happens where I live every 40 years or so. CONSTANTLY.

Wanna discredit ME? Discredit PHIL JONES first. Fair enough?

Big bonfire.



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[franksolich]

Hmmmm.

I'll bet the nocturnally foul one isn't going to like that.

[GOBUCKS]

When I saw the title of this thread, I knew it didn't come from the Alabama butterball Li'l Ava.

[thundley4]

So many of the DUmmies respond to the recent global warming bombshells  by doing this:
 

[Carl]

They have so invested themselves in this nonsense as being a vehicle to socialism that some will never pull back from it.
Hopefully as a real issue it has seen its day with sane people.

[The Village Idiot]

The earth has been warming and cooling since it was formed/created. Man had nothing to do with it.

[The Village Idiot]

They have so invested themselves in this nonsense as being a vehicle to socialism that some will never pull back from it.
Hopefully as a real issue it has seen its day with sane people.

The fact is the US media and the Democrats have invested in the hoax more than anyone else on Earth. They will find it nearly impossible to pull back now. They have brainwashed so many idiots and put into school books, TV documentaries and newscasts so often they can never pretend otherwise.

[Specbid]

lapfog_1  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Feb-15-10 03:29 AM
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6. No need to discredit you, you are doing a fine job all by yourself...
   

...And, yes, humans can and do have an affect on our environment. Do you hear wolves or coyotes howl at night? Most of us don't, but 200 years ago, most of us DID. Where are the thundering herds of buffalo on the plains of the midwest? You think they just sort of got lost somewhere? Humans did that. We changed things. And we are continuing to change things.

Those that don't accept this notion are dense beyond words.

So, lapfag, you're comparing the killing of animals for survival, to man changing the earth's climate? You're an idiot...maybe that's why you only have one of those stupid effin' heart things. 

[Mike220]

Has CP had lunch yet?

[Specbid]

MercutioATC  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Feb-15-10 04:32 AM
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30. First, let's all laugh at the "Save The Planet" people.
   
(and I mean that seriously)

"The Planet" is just fine, and will be regardless of what we do to it...short of cracking it into pieces. Cool or warm, "The Planet" adapts.

OUR future on the planet may be at risk, however...and that's O.K. too. The vast majority of species that have ever lived on this planet are dead now...even those who clawed their way to the top of the food chain. I mention it because it's a distinction that most people overlook. People tend to think of what's bad for US as bad for the planet and that's simply not the case.

WE'RE in jeopardy (maybe). The planet is fine. Any suggestions that carbon emissions are harmful to "the planet" are self serving.


That said, it seems likely that the planet is going through a time of climate change. We probably didn't CAUSE it, but we may be accelerating it. MAY be.

...so it's in our own best interest to do things that maintain the climate we're used to. Part of that MAY be reducing carbon emissions. It's worth a try.

Now, this DUmmie here seems to be able to reason. Wonder if he's a mole. Anyway, what really interests me is the last statement: "...so it's in our own best interest to do things that maintain the climate we're used to. Part of that MAY be reducing carbon emissions. It's worth a try."


Several climate change wackos seem to follow this line of reason, so I say to them, it would be in your own best interests to accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. 

[The Village Idiot]

The climate is ever changing, it never maintains the climate we are used to

[AllosaursRus]

lapfog_1  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Feb-15-10 03:29 AM
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6. No need to discredit you, you are doing a fine job all by yourself...
  

...And, yes, humans can and do have an affect on our environment. Do you hear wolves or coyotes howl at night? Most of us don't, but 200 years ago, most of us DID. Where are the thundering herds of buffalo on the plains of the midwest? You think they just sort of got lost somewhere? Humans did that. We changed things. And we are continuing to change things.

Those that don't accept this notion are dense beyond words.

DUmbasses strive to be the latest. greatest, egg head! This one is no excreption! You lose idiot!

Dummies want to be the latest and greatest DUmbass! Their only path in life is to be accepted by the hive. All one has to do is realize they kick the worker bee out the door when he/she/it refuses to follow the collective.

They wail and flail their arms, running around the campfire, yearning for recognition. They believe once they accomplish this, they will be admired, and revered, for their intense intellect. Only problem is, they don't have a clue!

They absolutely hate us for exposing all the holes they leave in their abstract logic. Why do we take so much enjoyment from exposing these idiots? I guess 'cause we love our country and these morans are so easy to expose as traitors!

edited to embellish, hope that's not too big a word for you lurking DUmmies, hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[Ralph Wiggum]

Now, this DUmmie here seems to be able to reason. Wonder if he's a mole. Anyway, what really interests me is the last statement: "...so it's in our own best interest to do things that maintain the climate we're used to. Part of that MAY be reducing carbon emissions. It's worth a try."


Several climate change wackos seem to follow this line of reason, so I say to them, it would be in your own best interests to accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. 

This DUmmy is paraphrasing George Carlin.  I don't know whether he/she/it is actually serious or not.

[Freeper]

As much time and money as they sunk into this hoax they will figure out a way to discredit Jones on this and claim that global climate change will still kill us all. You just wait the claims will be he is disgruntled and is making up stories about making up data for GW and that he lied when he said that the temperature hasn't risen in 15 years.

[USA4ME]

cherokeeprogressive

..... or any other reason to believe that the snow I'm dealing with today is because of a change in climate SOMEWHERE ELSE even though 5' of snowfall happens where I live every 40 years or so. CONSTANTLY.

Like some primitives from time to time, this one stumbles upon the obvious.  I have yet to see any indisputable proof that the weather events and other evidences we see around the world that the "scientists" want to use as proof of "climate change" aren't things that have happened time and time again on the Earth, sometimes at a slow pace, sometimes at an accelerated pace.

You know how the GW toofers say local weather isn't the same as climate change?  Rush has on his site a video of Dems in Congress using local weather to claim that's evidence of "climate change."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_021210/content/01125107.guest.html

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