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Offline thundley4

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DUmmies want reconciliation.
« on: February 11, 2010, 10:59:54 AM »
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kpete   (1000+ posts)               Thu Feb-11-10 10:20 AM
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Pelosi Makes Her Case: A Majority Is 51 Votes   
   
Source: The Hill


Pelosi Makes Her Case: A Majority Is 51 Votes
By Steven T. Dennis
Roll Call Staff
Feb. 10, 2010


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is pinning the blame on Republicans for a lack of bipartisanship in Congress and plans to bypass them if they continue to oppose efforts to enact near-universal health care.

“A constitutional majority is 51 votes,” Pelosi said in an interview Tuesday with Roll Call. “If in fact the Republicans are going to say nothing can be done except by 60 percent, then maybe we all should be elected with 60 percent. It isn’t legitimate in terms of passing legislation.”

Pelosi has been wary of publicly giving advice to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) or President Barack Obama, but it’s no secret that House Democrats have been increasingly frustrated at the dysfunction on the opposite side of the building.

“There is some unease when you talk about, well, what’s happening to the initiatives to help the American people?” Pelosi said. “Is there never anything that can be done without 60 votes?”

Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/news/43170-1.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4264853

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derby378   (1000+ posts)               Thu Feb-11-10 10:21 AM
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1. Well, uh, yeah, it's about time someone said that...
   
I didn't think voters put Republicans in the driver's seat in 2008, either.

Maybe not, but if the witch of the west does this, the GOP might take the wheel later this year.

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WI_DEM (1000+ posts)             Thu Feb-11-10 10:24 AM
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2. Dems wouldn't be in so much problems nationally if the Senate had it's act together
   
and Obama took on the GOP more than he has (though it seems like he is getting the message).

It is the Dems fault that they couldn't get 60 yes votes.  Lord Zero should have gotten the message from recent election results, but he's not that bright.

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polichick   (1000+ posts)           Thu Feb-11-10 10:26 AM
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4. But it doesn't matter what Dems SAY if they're not willing to DO anything about it...
   
Using reconciliation and insisting on real filibusters would be DOING something.
   

Go for it. Push farther left.

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ThomThom   (174 posts)           Thu Feb-11-10 10:58 AM
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11. How about changing the rules to only need a simple majority
   
to pass legislation.

P;ease, please do.  Post November 2010 will be fun.

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Re: DUmmies want reconciliation.
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 11:03:59 AM »
Does that mean the president loses his constitutional authority to veto a bill?
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Re: DUmmies want reconciliation.
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 12:55:34 PM »
doesn't Pelosi work in the other chamber?
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Re: DUmmies want reconciliation.
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 12:56:35 PM »
Quote from: FGL on February 11, 2010, 12:55:34 PM
doesn't Pelosi work in the other chamber?

Excellent point.
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Re: DUmmies want reconciliation.
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 01:54:29 PM »
If the donks go this way the senate is in republican hands by +3 and the house will be up by +80.
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Re: DUmmies want reconciliation.
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 10:27:59 PM »
Robert Heinlein once floated an idea for a bicameral legislature in which one of the houses existed for the sole purpose of vetoing the other house's proposed bills - and in which only a one-third minority was required to execute said veto power. The thinking being, if a proposed law was disagreeable to a full third of the population, it must be pretty awful.

Always thought that was a pretty good idea.
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Re: DUmmies want reconciliation.
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2010, 10:45:21 PM »
Quote from: EastFacingNorth on February 11, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
Robert Heinlein once floated an idea for a bicameral legislature in which one of the houses existed for the sole purpose of vetoing the other house's proposed bills - and in which only a one-third minority was required to execute said veto power. The thinking being, if a proposed law was disagreeable to a full third of the population, it must be pretty awful.

Always thought that was a pretty good idea.

Not a bad idea, might need a little work.
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