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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-09-10 03:56 PMOriginal message If Michael Moore Would Run for President http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/09-3 If Michael Moore would run for President in 2012, it could be a game-changer in American political life. For starters, it would likely shorten the war in Afghanistan by at least six months, and the American and Afghan lives that would be saved would alone justify the effort. If Moore announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination now, and followed up that announcement with a vigorous campaign focused on the struggles of rank-and-file Democrats, it would re-mobilize rank-and-file Democratic activists. It's possible that he might even win; but win or lose, the campaign could arrest and reverse the current rightward, pro-corporate trajectory of our national politics, which is the predictable consequence of the failure of Team Obama to deliver on its promises from 2008, which in turn was the predictable consequence of the doomed effort to try to serve two masters: Wall Street and Main Street.Like few people with his political views, Michael Moore needs no introduction to the Democratic primary electorate. To most rank-and-file Democrats, the name Michael Moore stands for a set of progressive populist ideas: health care for all, workers' rights, opposition to Wall Street's stranglehold on Washington, closing down the wars of empire and bringing our troops home.In 1984 and 1988, the Jesse Jackson campaigns showed what could be accomplished running a populist, issue-based, movement campaign in the Democratic primaries and caucuses. In 1984, Jackson got more than 3 million votes, a fifth of the total, and won 5 primaries and caucuses. In 1988, he got almost 7 million votes and won seven primaries and four caucuses; at one point, following his victory in the Michigan caucus, he was ahead in delegates. Of course, the progressive Jackson campaigns had a particular starting point: their base in the African-American community. But a Michael Moore campaign would also have a starting point: his status as an international progressive populist rock star. The moment that Michael Moore says, "I am a candidate for the Democratic nomination for President in 2012," it's a live proposition. And Moore would have tools for getting out his message -- videos and the internet -- that the Jackson campaign didn't have in 1988.Like few American progressives of his prominence, Moore has the ability to connect with and mobilize working-class anger at Washington and Wall Street. moore...
If Michael Moore Would Run for President choke to death trying to swllow an entire ham.
Moore would get the crackpot vote. Without them, the democrat party doesn't stand a chance.
Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-09-10 03:56 PMOriginal messageIf Michael Moore Would Run for President http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/09-3If Michael Moore would run for President in 2012, it could be a game-changer in American political life. For starters, it would likely shorten the war in Afghanistan by at least six months, and the American and Afghan lives that would be saved would alone justify the effort.If Moore announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination now, and followed up that announcement with a vigorous campaign focused on the struggles of rank-and-file Democrats, it would re-mobilize rank-and-file Democratic activists. It's possible that he might even win...
harun (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-09-10 11:08 AMResponse to Reply #3 7. Threatening to do it is productive, however. Obama and Congress can pass Progressive legislation like they were elected to do and then the Progressives won't be so pissed.
OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-09-10 04:19 PMResponse to Reply #27 28. Michael Moore could not pull 0.1% of the vote from Obama. He's not a politician. He has no legislative or governing experience. Such a third party candidate would not even get an invitation to the debates... let alone get to participate in one. It's hard enough for senators/representatives to get elected because of their voting records... Moore's views, slants, semi-truths, and ultra-liberal positions espoused over the years essentially damage him beyond repair for any sort of election. He is an aesthetically unpleasing overweight pop-culture figure who produces (at best) borderline intellectually dishonest "documentaries". He would pull zero conservative votes, zero moderate votes, few liberal votes, and maybe a non-negligible portion of the left-wing radical votes. Figure about 1.2-1.5 million popular votes per percentage. No, Michael Moore is not a threat. A Blueberry Muffin could point out Obama's deficiencies on campaign promises... that would not make the breakfast pastry a viable candidate for replacement though.
OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-09-10 11:57 AMResponse to Original message 18. Moore versus Limbaugh... I'd love to see that campaign. Man would it get UGLY. I think Rush would edge out Moore though.
