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annm4peace (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-07-10 08:16 PMOriginal messageThe decay of our civilization "I do not believe the greatest threat to our future is from bombs or guided missiles. I don't think our civilization will die that way. I think it will die when we no longer care--when the spiritual forces that make us wish to be right and noble die in our hearts. Arnold Toynbee has pointed out that nineteen of twenty one civilizations have died from within and not conquest from without. There were no bands playing and flags waving when these civilizations decayed. It happened slowly, in the quiet and the dark when no one was aware."Lawrence Gould President, Carleton College
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-07-10 08:21 PMResponse to Original message4. What Toynbee wrote about dominant minorities, internal proltariates, and societal disintergration... are very relevant today.
Did he mention that most of them died of slothful envy and the over taxation of the workers to provide bread and circuses for the sloths?