Progressives believe:
In a "We" society; we're all in this together.
People are capable of self government and working together for the purpose of improving the quality of life.
Moving forward together is a good thing.
In some ways yes society is a "we society" but, we all are individuals with responsibilities to look after ourselves and the freedom to enjoy the fruits of our labor.
If liberals believe in self govt then why do they petition Washington DC to control everything? This statement from a liberal is ludicrous
Moving forward is fine as long as the movement is in the right direction, constitutional, and will not take away freedoms.
Conservatives believe:
People are basically evil
Government is a strong force that will only do harm.
Moving forward is bad, change is bad.
Well I will say people are born with evil tendencies good behavior has to be learned. I'm not even a fundie and I know this.
Government will only do harm when it is a strong force so you almost got that right, you just left part of it out.
Just like I said above change can be good we simply do not believe in change for change's sake like you libs seem too.
The concepts of civility and "PC" fit in here, too. Progressives recognize the value of inclusion and mutual effort. Conservatives believe the universe revolves around them.
Once again you have it backwards. Liberals are the ones who constantly say "me, me ,me" Obama is a prime example of this. Conservatives do recognize individuality but, we do realize not everything is about or for us. The left constantly gripes that us conservatives who aren't rich are going against our own self interests when we do not support raping the rich. When in reality we know if the rich lose their freedoms then we can just as easily lose ours. Besides we believe in the principle of freedom and that includes economic freedom not just the freedom to boink whoever we want which seems to be the only freedom that libs support.
omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-06-10 12:42 AM
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2. Echoing the forgotten concept that Updated at 12:34 AM
we ARE the government.
That's a cute slogan and yes the founders intended it to be that way but you would not like it if we had true majority rule.
Even if the govt is us, the constitution put a ton of restrictions on that which we can do.
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-06-10 12:57 AM
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3. exactly..
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 12:58 AM by mdmc
If we really wanted to fix health care we should go to single payer system and have it run and staffed by pro single payer zealots.
Think of a national plan where everything is being done to provide the most efficient, highest quality medical treatment. Treatment provided for free and a net gain for our society as health and community improve. A better economy. Healthier schools. A better community, all in all.
Iiberals want to improve their community. Conservatives prefer the status quo.
But, who will pay for your free health care? See folks the liberals are saying "me me me" they want free health care.
Once again DUmmies that Constitution is screwing up your wet dream.
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-06-10 01:07 AM
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5. which is not in our best interest (:eyes:) --- so then
Liberals look for peaceful resolutions to conflict.
Conservatives are vested in the military industrial complex..
A strong national defense is right there in the Constitution. You don't like it? take it up with our founding fathers.
Peaceful resolutions are not always an option. Every conservative I know wishes that we could find peaceful resolutions to deal with terrorism we do not take it lightly when our brave service members have to do put themselves in danger.
